History YMMV / Radiohead

7th Sep '16 5:18:34 PM bt8257
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* TheWoobie: Thom Yorke. He's had bouts of depression and anxiety throughout his career, and has recently divorced his wife of twenty-three years[note]The separation seems to be an amicable one, though[/note]. Radiohead's music, the lyrics especially, is largely inspired by Thom's mental state. The disturbing/heartrending nature of much of his output has left as many fans concerned as fascinated.

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* TheWoobie: Thom Yorke. He's had bouts of depression and anxiety throughout his career, and has recently divorced his wife of twenty-three years[note]The years.[[note]]The separation seems to be an amicable one, though[/note]. though[[/note]] Radiohead's music, the lyrics especially, is largely inspired by Thom's mental state. The disturbing/heartrending nature of much of his output has left as many fans concerned as fascinated.
30th Aug '16 5:28:51 PM stuffedninja
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** "thm"[[note]]A popular meme on the band's subreddit that comes from a Reddit AMA Thom did with Nigel (as Atoms for Peace, not Radiohead) where Thom's [[YouMakeMeSic poorly spelled]] answers to questions were sometimes suffixed by "thm".[[/note]]
** Thom likes "The Gloaming".[[note]]Another subreddit meme, stemming from the band's frequent playing of the [[EnsembleDarkhorse considered-to-be underrated]] song in concerts and Thom stating that it's his favorite ''HTTT'' song. When brought up on the subreddit, it usually receives response poorly written like Thom's, usually characterized by their lack of vowels.[[/note]]
16th Jul '16 4:59:16 PM EllaMegablast
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot:
** Rumor has it that "Pearly*" was inspired by a Japanese girl who prostituted herself in order to get Radiohead tickets, much to Thom's horror.
** ''Hail to the Thief'' followed both 9/11 and the birth of Thom's son and has very, very heavy political overtones. For specific song examples, "I Will" was inspired by a news scene of a bunker full of women and kids being bombed during the first Gulf War; "Sail to the Moon" was reportedly written in five minutes for Thom's son.
*** In addition, "A Punchup at a Wedding" was inspired by Thom getting extremely upset after reading a very negative and caustic review of an Oxford show that was intended to be a homecoming concert.
16th Jul '16 4:26:19 PM EllaMegablast
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** Jonny Greenwood's 'abusive guitar' also gets a mention, be it on [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IQfn97KRFg this performance of "Bangers + Mash"]] or... any other rocky guitar-based song. Jonny's done it so much that he had to get an arm brace from repetitive strain injury.

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** Jonny Greenwood's 'abusive guitar' "abusive guitar" also gets a mention, be it on [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IQfn97KRFg this performance of "Bangers + Mash"]] or... any other rocky guitar-based song. Jonny's done it so much that he had to get an arm brace from repetitive strain injury.



* EvenBetterSequel: ''Music/TheBends'' got a much better response than ''PabloHoney''.

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* EvenBetterSequel: ''Music/TheBends'' got a much better response than ''PabloHoney''.''Pablo Honey''.



* FaceOfTheBand: Averted. Thom seems like a candidate for this, since the band has admitted that Thom has the most say in everything material-wise. However, the other members, most notably Jonny Greenwood, have a sizable amount of the fanbase's and media's attention.

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* FaceOfTheBand: Averted. Thom seems like a candidate for this, since the band has admitted that Thom has the most say in everything material-wise.material-wise (and he's the frontman). However, the other members, most notably Jonny Greenwood, have a sizable amount of the fanbase's and media's attention.



*** Thom's dancing in the "Lotus Flower" video has been dubbed with, for instance, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xgeT2hzxrQ Single Ladies]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjOUKXqm9Q the Benny Hill theme]].

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*** Thom's dancing in the "Lotus Flower" video has It's also been dubbed with, for instance, [[http://www.set to Beyoncé's "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xgeT2hzxrQ Single Ladies]] Ladies]]" and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjOUKXqm9Q the Benny Hill theme]].



* MisaimedFandom
** "Creep" is often quoted on pro-anorexia websites, for its lines "I don't care if it hurts/I wanna have control/I want a perfect body/I want a perfect soul."

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* MisaimedFandom
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MisaimedFandom: "Creep" is often quoted on pro-anorexia websites, for its lines "I don't care if it hurts/I wanna have control/I want a perfect body/I want a perfect soul."



** Unsurprising, considering that ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'' is basically Radiohead: The Game.



* ParanoiaFuel: "Climbing Up the Walls":

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* ParanoiaFuel: "Climbing Up the Walls":Walls" draws on Thom's time spent working in a mental hospital:



** The song draws on Thom's time spent working in a mental hospital.



** "Give Up the Ghost" may be a TearJerker, but that coda with the layers upon layers of vocals also qualifies as this trope. Come to think of it, the last three songs of ''Music/TheKingOfLimbs'' probably qualify in their entirety.

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** "Give Up the Ghost" may be a TearJerker, but that coda with the layers upon layers of vocals also qualifies as this trope. Come to think of it, the last three songs of ''Music/TheKingOfLimbs'' probably qualify in their entirety.trope.
*** ''TKOL'' as a whole might fit, depending on who you ask.



* ToughActToFollow: It's widely said that Radiohead's biggest competition is their own back catalog. ''OK Computer'' and ''Kid A'' stand out as defining, perhaps even game-changing, moments for the band--maybe even for popular music at large.

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* ToughActToFollow: It's widely been said that Radiohead's biggest competition is their own back catalog. ''OK Computer'' and ''Kid A'' stand out as the defining, perhaps even game-changing, game-changing moments for the band--maybe even for popular music at large.



** ''In Rainbows'' similarly got flak for having a different sound, but critics warmed up to it eventually.



* TheWoobie: Thom Yorke. He's had bouts of depression and anxiety throughout his career, and has recently divorced his wife of twenty-three years. Radiohead's music, the lyrics especially, stems largely from Thom's mental state. The disturbing/heartrending nature of much of his output has left as many fans concerned as fascinated.

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* TheWoobie: Thom Yorke. He's had bouts of depression and anxiety throughout his career, and has recently divorced his wife of twenty-three years. years[note]The separation seems to be an amicable one, though[/note]. Radiohead's music, the lyrics especially, stems is largely from inspired by Thom's mental state. The disturbing/heartrending nature of much of his output has left as many fans concerned as fascinated.
14th Jul '16 11:21:26 AM stuffedninja
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* SongAssociation: Lots of instances. "Exit Music (for a Film)" and "Talk Show Host" being used in (and in the former's case, written for[[note]]Yes, the song was specifically written for, and featured in the end credits of, the 1996 adaptation of Shakespeare's classic story. Director Baz Luhrmann approached the band with the request for a song during their 1996 tour and showed them the last 30 minutes of the movie, which gave them enough inspiration to begin work immediately. (It was heavily inspired by the original story as a whole, as well as the 1968 Franco Zeffirelli film adaptation that Thom saw as a teenager, and was built around the idea of what would've happened if the pair had escaped the morning after they consummated their marriage.) Due to the song's inclusion on ''OK Computer'', the song was held off of the soundtrack at the band's request, but in its place, a remix of "Talk Show Host" was used.[[/note]]) ''Film/WilliamShakespearesRomeoAndJuliet'', "15 Step" being used in ''Film/{{Twilight}}'', "Everything in Its Right Place" being used in ''Film/VanillaSky'', "Life in a Glasshouse" being used in ''Film/ChildrenOfMen'', "High and Dry" being used in ''Film/FiftyFifty''...[[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1955602/ the list goes on.]]

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* SongAssociation: Lots of instances. "Exit Music (for a Film)" and "Talk Show Host" being used in (and in the former's case, written for[[note]]Yes, the song was specifically written for, and featured in the end credits of, the 1996 adaptation of Shakespeare's classic story. Director Baz Luhrmann approached the band with the request for a song during their 1996 tour and showed them the last 30 minutes of the movie, which gave them enough inspiration to begin work immediately. (It was heavily inspired by the original story as a whole, as well as the 1968 Franco Zeffirelli film adaptation that Thom saw as a teenager, and was built around the idea of what would've happened if the pair had escaped the morning after they consummated their marriage.) Due to the song's inclusion on ''OK Computer'', the song was held off of the soundtrack at the band's request, but in its place, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nesLOCQEhVI a remix of "Talk Show Host" was used.[[/note]]) ]][[/note]]) ''Film/WilliamShakespearesRomeoAndJuliet'', "15 Step" being used in ''Film/{{Twilight}}'', "Everything in Its Right Place" being used in ''Film/VanillaSky'', "Life in a Glasshouse" being used in ''Film/ChildrenOfMen'', "High and Dry" being used in ''Film/FiftyFifty''...[[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1955602/ the list goes on.]]
9th Jul '16 7:41:11 PM Nozdordomu
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** The quality of ''Hail to the Thief'' and ''The King of Limbs'' are hotly debated. Some fans dislike TKOL's softer sound and short length (it's the shortest album in Radiohead's discography, clocking in at 38 minutes) and think the production and song choice are not all that interesting for a Radiohead album. ''Hail to the Thief,'' conversely, is the longest Radiohead album to date; this led to arguing over whether having more songs on an album is good because it means more Radiohead, or worse because it makes the album ''too'' long and may result in AlbumFiller and ObviousBeta tracks.

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** The quality of ''Hail to the Thief'' and ''The King of Limbs'' are hotly debated. Some fans dislike TKOL's softer sound and short length (it's the shortest album in Radiohead's discography, clocking in at 38 minutes) and think the production and song choice are not all that interesting for a Radiohead album. ''Hail to the Thief,'' conversely, is the longest Radiohead album to date; this led to arguing over whether having more songs tracks on an album is good because it means more Radiohead, or worse because it makes the album ''too'' long and may result in AlbumFiller lead to [[AlbumFiller filler]] and ObviousBeta tracks.[[ObviousBeta unfinished songs]].
2nd Jul '16 8:09:10 PM Pren
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* HarsherInHindsight: "Burn the Witch," with its video heavily inspired by ''Film/TheWickerMan'', was released shortly before the death of its director Robin Hardy.
24th Jun '16 8:35:49 PM stuffedninja
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* BrokenBase: ''Music/KidA'' was this initially, due to its GenreShift to avant garde- and jazz-influenced electronica. It was VindicatedByHistory fairly quickly, though many stalwart fans of ''Music/TheBends'' and ''Music/OKComputer'' have not returned to the fandom.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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''Music/KidA'' was this initially, due to its GenreShift to avant garde- and jazz-influenced electronica. It was VindicatedByHistory fairly quickly, though many stalwart fans of ''Music/TheBends'' and ''Music/OKComputer'' have not returned to the fandom.


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** The whole "Radiohead should've won an Oscar for 'Spectre'" debacle detailed in AwardSnub above. Music/SamSmith's response to the song (has never heard it, doesn't know who Thom is) doesn't help the matters.
24th Jun '16 8:31:45 PM stuffedninja
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* AwardSnub: There are lots of Radiohead fans who believe that if "Spectre" had been chosen as the official theme song for [[Film/{{Spectre}} the Bond film]] it was written for, it would've won (or at least gotten nominated for) the Oscar for Best Original Song that was won instead by [[Music/SamSmith Sam Smith's "Writing On The Wall."]] [[note]]This ignores the fact that the final version of "Spectre" is probably very different from the version the band submitted to be used as the Bond theme, given that Thom remarked on Twitter that they had played around with the song post-rejection and made it their own...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but let's not get into that.]][[/note]]

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* AwardSnub: There are lots of Radiohead fans who believe that if "Spectre" had been chosen as the official theme song for [[Film/{{Spectre}} the Bond film]] it was written for, it would've won (or at least gotten nominated for) the Oscar for Best Original Song that was won instead by the theme song that ''was'' used, [[Music/SamSmith Sam Smith's "Writing On The Wall."]] [[note]]This ignores the fact that the final version of "Spectre" is probably very different from the version the band submitted to be used as the Bond theme, given that Thom remarked on Twitter that they had played around with the song post-rejection and made it their own...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but let's not get into that.]][[/note]]
11th Jun '16 7:04:39 PM EllaMegablast
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* AwardSnub: There are lots of Radiohead fans that believe that if "Spectre" had been chosen as the official theme song for [[Film/{{Spectre}} the Bond film]] it was written for, it would've won (or at least gotten nominated for) the Oscar for Best Original Song that was won instead by [[Music/SamSmith Sam Smith's "Writing On The Wall."]] [[note]]This ignores the fact that the final version of "Spectre" is probably very different from the version the band submitted to be used as the Bond theme, given that Thom remarked on Twitter that they had played around with the song post-rejection and made it their own...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but let's not get into that.]][[/note]]

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* AwardSnub: There are lots of Radiohead fans that who believe that if "Spectre" had been chosen as the official theme song for [[Film/{{Spectre}} the Bond film]] it was written for, it would've won (or at least gotten nominated for) the Oscar for Best Original Song that was won instead by [[Music/SamSmith Sam Smith's "Writing On The Wall."]] [[note]]This ignores the fact that the final version of "Spectre" is probably very different from the version the band submitted to be used as the Bond theme, given that Thom remarked on Twitter that they had played around with the song post-rejection and made it their own...[[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment but let's not get into that.]][[/note]]



** ''Music/InRainbows'' initially received flak for being much more accessible and upbeat than previous albums. This, too, seems to have been VindicatedByHistory pretty quickly.
** The quality of ''Hail to the Thief'' and ''The King of Limbs'' are hotly debated. Some fans dislike TKOL's softer sound and short length (it's the shortest album in Radiohead's discography, clocking in at 38 minutes) and think the production and song choice are not all that interesting for a Radiohead album. ''Hail to the Thief,'' conversely, is the longest Radiohead album to date; this led to arguing over whether having more songs on an album is good because it means more Radiohead, or worse because it makes the album too long and may result in AlbumFiller and ObviousBeta tracks.

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** ''Music/InRainbows'' initially received flak for being much more accessible and upbeat than previous albums. This, too, seems to have been VindicatedByHistory pretty quickly.
** The quality of ''Hail to the Thief'' and ''The King of Limbs'' are hotly debated. Some fans dislike TKOL's softer sound and short length (it's the shortest album in Radiohead's discography, clocking in at 38 minutes) and think the production and song choice are not all that interesting for a Radiohead album. ''Hail to the Thief,'' conversely, is the longest Radiohead album to date; this led to arguing over whether having more songs on an album is good because it means more Radiohead, or worse because it makes the album too ''too'' long and may result in AlbumFiller and ObviousBeta tracks.



* EnsembleDarkHorse - ''Amnesiac'' is probably the band's least-recognized album outside of the fandom, with critics preferring ''Music/KidA'' and mainstream audiences preferring ''Music/OKComputer'' and ''Music/InRainbows'', but among the fandom it's extremely popular and widely appreciated. Its b-sides are considered to be some of the best of the band's career, and "The Amazing Sounds of Orgy"'s live debut on the ''King of Limbs'' tour was greeted with much enthusiasm.

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* EnsembleDarkHorse - ''Amnesiac'' is probably the band's least-recognized album outside of the fandom, with critics preferring ''Music/KidA'' and mainstream audiences preferring ''Music/OKComputer'' and ''Music/InRainbows'', but among the fandom it's extremely popular and widely appreciated.it has a stalwart following in hardcore Radiohead circles. Its b-sides are considered to be some of the best of the band's career, and "The Amazing Sounds of Orgy"'s live debut on the ''King of Limbs'' tour was greeted with much enthusiasm.



* FanonDiscontinuity: In most fans' eyes, ''PabloHoney'', either with the exception of or particularly "Creep". Although "Anyone Can Play Guitar" and "Blow Out" are widely considered the best songs off the album--if you dislike "Creep".

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* FanonDiscontinuity: In most fans' eyes, ''PabloHoney'', either with the exception of or particularly "Creep". Although "Anyone Can Play Guitar" and "Blow Out" are widely considered the best songs off the album--if you dislike "Creep".[[note]]Like every album Radiohead puts out, it has its devotees. In this case, they just happen to be in a minority.[[/note]]



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Japan shows an unsettling amount of dedication to this band. Case in point: one memorable scene in Meeting People Is Easy lets us watch as two Japanese girls cry in public as the band boards the plane to Australia. Ed tries to reassure them of the band's return, to no avail.



* MainstreamObscurity: For all the critical acclaim their albums get, few people outside of the established fandom are able to name any individual track from any of them (with the exception of "Creep," because everyone knows "Creep"). The flipside of this is that the fandom is so dedicated that any one person can likely name ''any'' track (well, any post-''Pablo Honey'' track, anyway) and are just as likely to love a semi-obscure b-side like "Cuttooth" or "Kinetic" as they are to love a hit single like "Paranoid Android" or "My Iron Lung".
* MemeticBadass: Bizarrely enough, a ''song'' example. "Burn the Witch" was once legendary among Radiohead fans for being a total mystery: though the title was floating around since the ''Kid A''/''Amnesiac'' era, no recordings were heard and no lyrics were pinned down before it was released as the first single from ''A Moon Shaped Pool''.

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* MainstreamObscurity: For all the critical acclaim their albums get, few people outside of the established fandom are able to name any individual track from any of them (with the exception of "Creep," because everyone knows "Creep"). The flipside of this is that the fandom is so dedicated that any one person can likely name ''any'' track (well, any post-''Pablo Honey'' track, anyway) and are just as likely to love a semi-obscure b-side like "Cuttooth" or "Kinetic" as they are to love a hit high-profile single like "Paranoid Android" or "My Iron Lung".
* MemeticBadass: Bizarrely enough, a ''song'' example. "Burn the Witch" was once legendary among Radiohead fans for being a total mystery: though the title was floating around since the ''Kid A''/''Amnesiac'' era, no recordings were heard and no lyrics were pinned down before it was released as the first single from ''A Moon Shaped Pool''.Pool'' four albums and ten years later.



* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Climate change sucks. Climate change denial sucks, too. Political corruption also sucks, especially when innocent people suffer for it. Whether or not you think references to these issues in Radiohead's music are anvilicious, there is certainly cause for concern.



** "Desert Island Disk" is the lightest and probably the most affirming song on ''A Moon Shaped Pool."



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The initial reaction of some to the drastic change the band made in ''Kid A''.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: The initial reaction of some to the drastic change the band made in ''Kid A''. Some fans reacted to ''The King Of Limbs'' this way, too.



** Their signature sonic angst [[SubvertedTrope hasn't stopped them from taking a break and doing]] ''[[LighterAndSofter In Rainbows]]'' [[LighterAndSofter and]] ''[[LighterAndSofter The King of Limbs]]''. However, ''A Moon Shaped Pool'' is back to being pretty depressing, which may not be a surprise given [[CreatorBreakdown Yorke's separation from his partner of twenty-three years and the death of Nigel Godrich's father]].

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** Their signature sonic angst [[SubvertedTrope hasn't stopped them from taking a break and doing]] ''[[LighterAndSofter In Rainbows]]'' [[LighterAndSofter and]] ''[[LighterAndSofter The King of Limbs]]''. However,
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''A Moon Shaped Pool'' is back marks a return to being pretty depressing, a bleaker sound, which may not be a surprise given [[CreatorBreakdown [[RealitySubtext Yorke's separation from his partner of twenty-three years and the death of Nigel Godrich's father]].
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