History YMMV / Psycho

7th Jan '17 1:09:59 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight:
** Norman's FreudianExcuse and sexual repression are probably what drove him insane. Then there's the shower scene, where the knife stabbing is often interpreted as a phallic symbol.
** Another example, a personal one for Norman: at one point he's clearly stuttering and hesitating to say "fallacious", because it sounds like "phallus". He eventually settles on saying "falsity".
5th Jan '17 2:37:33 PM KingClark
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Composed, once again, by BernardHerrmann.

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Composed, once again, by BernardHerrmann.



* CreatorBacklash: In an interview with American Movie Classics not long before his death, Anthony Perkins mentioned that he felt his directorial effort on Psycho III wasn't as good as he'd like due to his inexperience.
** It's worth mentioning that despite this, the cast and crew is said to have enjoyed the experience of working with him.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Dr. Raymond from ''PsychoII'' is a minor, but faithful ally to Norman Bates. Considering that he's trying to help Norman resume a normal life [[spoiler: and derail Lila's EvilPlan to drive him insane again]], it's no wonder why this small character somewhat appreciated. By coincidence, he also happens to be the ''only'' helpful male character working with Norman.
* EvilIsSexy:
** Mrs. Bates in the ''Psycho IV'' flashbacks is this to some people.

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* CreatorBacklash: In an interview with American Movie Classics not long before his death, Anthony Perkins mentioned that he felt his directorial effort on Psycho III ''Psycho III'' wasn't as good as he'd like due to his inexperience.
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inexperience. It's worth mentioning that despite this, the cast and crew is said to have enjoyed the experience of working with him.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Dr. Raymond from ''PsychoII'' ''Psycho II'' is a minor, but faithful ally to Norman Bates. Considering that he's trying to help Norman resume a normal life [[spoiler: and derail Lila's EvilPlan to drive him insane again]], it's no wonder why this small character somewhat appreciated. By coincidence, he also happens to be the ''only'' helpful male character working with Norman.
* EvilIsSexy:
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EvilIsSexy: Mrs. Bates in the ''Psycho IV'' flashbacks is this to some people.flashbacks.



* FanPreferredCouple: Norman and Maureen from ''Psycho III'' were the only couple with the most chemistry.

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Norman and Maureen from ''Psycho III'' were the only couple with the most chemistry.



* FreudWasRight: Norman's FreudianExcuse and sexual repression are probably what drove him insane. Then there's the shower scene, where the knife stabbing is often interpreted as a phallic symbol.

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* FreudWasRight: FreudWasRight:
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Norman's FreudianExcuse and sexual repression are probably what drove him insane. Then there's the shower scene, where the knife stabbing is often interpreted as a phallic symbol.



* TheWoobie: Norman. He's so ''epically'' messed up. His father dies when he is 5 (it's never made clear how this happened). After this, his mother deliberately isolates and dominates him, making him dependent on her. She also fills his head with how sinful and evil women are. Then she shows up with a man when Norman is age 12. At this point, there are two possibilities: Norman is angry and jealous and kills both mother and her lover. Or, Mrs Bates kills both herself and her lover (remember the deceased Mr Bates). For option A, Norman is wracked with guilt and retrieves his mother's corpse as well as internalising her in order to alleviate his remorse. For option B, Norman simply assumes guilt for his mother's death (easier than confronting her abandonment of him) - and then internalises her. Either way, the woman who was responsible for his abusive childhood now ''lives inside his head'', berating, watching, punishing - no peace, nowhere to hide. Norman's trap is his own mind, and he can't escape. Hitchcock deliberately cast Anthony Perkins in the role to emphasise Norman's woobie quality. The sequels trade heavily on it, too - especially ''Psycho II''.
** You may feel even worse for him in the second movie, as you know all of this going in. We see that he served his time and met the requirements to be released. He so desperately tries to get his life in order and maintain his newfound sanity, but he's being pushed over the edge due to a personal vendetta.
** In ''Psycho IV'', we see how awful Norman's childhood was. His mother was insane and demeaned him, killing her didn't help him escape her, and he is considering putting down his [[spoiler: pregnant wife, because he doesn't want his unborn child to inherit his insanity. We cheer when that awful house finally goes up in flames, along with his poisonous past.]]

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Norman. He's so ''epically'' messed up. His father dies when he is 5 (it's never made clear how this happened). After this, his mother deliberately isolates and dominates him, making him dependent on her. She also fills his head with how sinful and evil women are. Then she shows up with a man when Norman is age 12. At this point, there are two possibilities: Norman is angry and jealous and kills both mother and her lover. Or, Mrs Bates kills both herself and her lover (remember the deceased Mr Bates). For option A, Norman is wracked with guilt and retrieves his mother's corpse as well as internalising her in order to alleviate his remorse. For option B, Norman simply assumes guilt for his mother's death (easier than confronting her abandonment of him) - and then internalises her. Either way, the woman who was responsible for his abusive childhood now ''lives inside his head'', berating, watching, punishing - no peace, nowhere to hide. Norman's trap is his own mind, and he can't escape. Hitchcock deliberately cast Anthony Perkins in the role to emphasise Norman's woobie quality. The sequels trade heavily on it, too - especially ''Psycho II''.
** *** You may feel even worse for him in the second movie, as you know all of this going in. We see that he served his time and met the requirements to be released. He so desperately tries to get his life in order and maintain his newfound sanity, but he's being pushed over the edge due to a personal vendetta.
** *** In ''Psycho IV'', we see how awful Norman's childhood was. His mother was insane and demeaned him, killing her didn't help him escape her, and he is considering putting down his [[spoiler: pregnant wife, because he doesn't want his unborn child to inherit his insanity. We cheer when that awful house finally goes up in flames, along with his poisonous past.]]
5th Jan '17 2:35:45 PM KingClark
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* TheScrappy: The psychiatrist is considered one for his long-winded scene that comes at the end of the film, which states information that should be largely obvious by the end.
** He is also happened to be an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom in the sequel ''Psycho II'', due to his diagnosis of Norman being permanently insane provokes Lila (who was present at the psychiatrist's hearing) to [[WellIntentionedExtremist staunchly]] believe Norman is this and attempts to [[spoiler: drive Norman insane again to get him recommitted]] when he is released and [[spoiler: initially]] indeed cured of his insanity.

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* TheScrappy: The psychiatrist is considered one for his long-winded scene that comes at the end of the film, which states information that should be largely obvious by the end.
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end. He is also happened to be an UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom in the sequel ''Psycho II'', due to his diagnosis of Norman being permanently insane provokes Lila (who was present at the psychiatrist's hearing) to [[WellIntentionedExtremist staunchly]] believe Norman is this and attempts to [[spoiler: drive Norman insane again to get him recommitted]] when he is released and [[spoiler: initially]] indeed cured of his insanity.
5th Jan '17 2:35:08 PM KingClark
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* {{Narm}}: "Mother, oh God, mother...the blood! The blood!" Mostly because they are the only piece of dialogue in a lengthy segment with no dialogue at all and thus seem out of place.

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"Mother, oh God, mother...the blood! The blood!" Mostly because they are the only piece of dialogue in a lengthy segment with no dialogue at all and thus seem out of place.



* NarmCharm: Not everyone dislikes the psychiatrist' s scene.

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* NarmCharm: Not everyone dislikes the psychiatrist' s psychiatrist's scene.



* {{Sequelitis}}: Averted with the surprisingly-good ''Psycho II''. YMMV on the other sequels, but the common consensus seems to be that ''Psycho III'' is visually interesting but flawed and lacking in depth, whereas ''Psycho IV'' is just plain lousy, albeit not completely awful. The remake and the 1987 film ''Bates Motel'' [[FanonDiscontinuity do not count]].

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Averted with the surprisingly-good ''Psycho II''. YMMV on the other sequels, but the common consensus seems to be that ''Psycho III'' is visually interesting but flawed and lacking in depth, whereas ''Psycho IV'' is just plain lousy, albeit not completely awful. The remake and the 1987 film ''Bates Motel'' [[FanonDiscontinuity do not count]].
24th Nov '16 8:45:24 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* SoOkayItsAverage: ''Psycho III'' is not as good as the first film, but it's surprisingly entertaining on its own.

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* SoOkayItsAverage: ''Psycho III'' is not as good as the first film, two films, but it's surprisingly entertaining on its own.
9th Nov '16 9:47:24 AM nombretomado
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** The first sequel is composed by JerryGoldsmith.

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** The first sequel is composed by JerryGoldsmith.Music/JerryGoldsmith.
14th Oct '16 4:00:12 PM CumbersomeTercel
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* WTHCastingAgency: Vince Vaughn as Norman Bates in the remake. Also, taking the Janet Leigh part of the sexy, tempting woman who awakens "Mother" - bony, spiky-haired Anne Heche. Roger Ebert went so far to say that William H. Macy was the only actor who was appropriately cast.

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* WTHCastingAgency: Vince Vaughn Creator/VinceVaughn as Norman Bates in the remake. Also, taking the Janet Leigh part of the sexy, tempting woman who awakens "Mother" - bony, spiky-haired Anne Heche. Roger Ebert Creator/RogerEbert went so far to say that William H. Macy Creator/WilliamHMacy was the only actor who was appropriately cast.
25th Sep '16 8:42:42 PM DrOO7
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* NarmCharm: Not everyone dislikes the psychiatrist' s scene.
15th Sep '16 12:00:46 AM NWolfman
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* ToughActToFollow: ''Psycho'' is looked at as Hitch's peek, as virtually none of the films he made afterward even came close to the level of recognition and acclaim that this one did, and while ''Film/TheBirds'' is still considered a classic, it's also comparatively paint-by-numbers as far as Hitchcock movies go.
2nd Apr '16 11:20:00 PM JulianLapostat
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* OutOfTheGhetto: For low-budget horror and slasher films. Hitchcock, himself a PigeonHoledDirector, was fascinated by William Castle's cheap horror productions and was curious to see if he could make a movie of that kind and raise it out of its ghetto. Usually associated with an elegant type of thriller (featuring high production values and A-list stars). He made ''Film/{{Psycho}}'' cheaply with little known actors and created perhaps the most commercially successful horror movie ever made, one of cinema's most iconic villains and launched the slasher genre, and also scored one of the few Best Director nominations he ever recieved. Thanks to the film's low-budget, great success and Hitchcock getting a bigger share of the profits, its a movie with a very high profit margin and it was the first time a horror movie became as much of a box-office sensation as an EpicMovie, TheWestern and TheMusical.
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