History YMMV / Psycho

25th Oct '17 10:28:25 AM JulianLapostat
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* GenreTurningPoint: In addition to marking, for some, the end of UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHollywood, ''Psycho'' is heralded by many critics as more or less codifying and defining the new mainstream of American cinema. Instead of idealized stars, you had characters playing normal people, at least relative to the mainstream of the time. More importantly it blurred the line between high and low art, with crude pulp material (dealing with illicit sex, robbery and a depraved SerialKiller) becoming as profitable, if not more so than the EpicMovie, TheWestern, TheMusical and other prestige films which Hollywood, before and after ''Psycho'', still saw as their major bread-and-butter, but by the end of TheSixties had become unfashionable and unpopular.

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* GenreTurningPoint: In addition to marking, for some, the end of UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfHollywood, ''Psycho'' is heralded by many critics as more or less codifying and defining the new mainstream of American cinema. Instead of idealized stars, you had characters actors playing normal people, at least relative to the mainstream of the time. More importantly it blurred the line between high and low art, with crude pulp material (dealing with illicit sex, robbery and a depraved SerialKiller) becoming as profitable, if not more so than the EpicMovie, TheWestern, TheMusical and other prestige films which Hollywood, before and after ''Psycho'', still saw as their major bread-and-butter, but by the end of TheSixties had become unfashionable and unpopular.
16th Oct '17 11:25:07 AM Pren
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* EndingFatigue: Norman's psychosis is explained down to the last detail after the story is over. Roger Ebert famously called this scene the one thing keeping the film from being perfect.
7th Oct '17 4:45:10 PM cwf123
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It is not exactly a word-for-word remake.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It is not exactly a word-for-word remake. It is also in full color.
7th Oct '17 4:42:10 PM cwf123
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* AwesomeMusic: Creator/DannyElfman's remaster of the original music.



* HeCanReallyAct: Creator/WilliamHMacy was pretty much the only actor to make his performance faithful.

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* HeCanReallyAct: HeReallyCanAct: Creator/WilliamHMacy was pretty much the only actor to make his performance faithful.



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7th Oct '17 4:41:20 PM cwf123
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* HeCanReallyAct: Creator/WilliamHMacy was pretty much the only actor to make his performance faithful.



* TheyveChangedItNowItSucks: It is not exactly a word-for-word remake.

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* TheyveChangedItNowItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks: It is not exactly a word-for-word remake.
7th Oct '17 4:40:18 PM cwf123
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The psychiatrist's speech was shortened compared to the 1960 original to make it less obvious.
7th Oct '17 4:39:34 PM cwf123
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The 1998 remake has random, near-subliminal video clips (storm clouds, a sheep in a road, a woman in bondage gear) which pop up during the two murder scenes.

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The 1998 remake has BigLippedAlligatorMoment:
** There were
random, near-subliminal video clips (storm clouds, a sheep in a road, a woman in bondage gear) which pop up during the two murder scenes.scenes.
** Norman Bates masturbating.


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* TheyveChangedItNowItSucks: It is not exactly a word-for-word remake.
* WereStillRelevantDammit: The remake changes the film in a 1990s setting with a walkman involved in one scene and the $40,000 to $400,000.
7th Oct '17 4:37:03 PM cwf123
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The first sequel is composed by Music/JerryGoldsmith.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The first sequel is composed by Music/JerryGoldsmith.
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* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common criticism to the remake.
* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/VinceVaughn as Norman Bates. Also, taking the Janet Leigh part of the sexy, tempting woman who awakens "Mother" - bony, spiky-haired Anne Heche. Creator/RogerEbert went so far to say that Creator/WilliamHMacy was the only actor who was appropriately cast.
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[[folder: Sequels and Remake]]
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The first sequel is composed by Music/JerryGoldsmith.



* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/VinceVaughn as Norman Bates in the remake. Also, taking the Janet Leigh part of the sexy, tempting woman who awakens "Mother" - bony, spiky-haired Anne Heche. Creator/RogerEbert went so far to say that Creator/WilliamHMacy was the only actor who was appropriately cast.
5th Sep '17 4:53:08 PM ading
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The Shower Scene is an infamous example. If the movie was put in theaters today, most, if not all, people in the audience would probably watch on with indifference to the scene, and possibly complain over the bad special effects. However, it's important to take into account that the movie was released in the early ''60's''. At the time, the directors were not allowed to show explicit violence, nudity or a [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking toilet flushing.]] (Hitchcock got that last part through, though.) Through fast-cut editing, timing, and effect, Hitchcock made it happen as explicit as the film industry would allow, which is why it was a great shock and terror to the people back then; you had not even expected someone to make a scene work that way. The world was left into a state of awe and terror for a long time after its premiere.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The Shower Scene is an infamous example. If the movie was put in theaters today, most, if not all, people in the audience would probably watch on with indifference to the scene, and possibly complain over the bad special effects. However, it's important to take into account that the movie was released in the early ''60's''. At the time, the directors were not allowed to show explicit violence, nudity or a [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking toilet flushing.]] (Hitchcock got that last part through, though.) Through fast-cut editing, timing, and effect, Hitchcock made it happen as explicit as the film industry would allow, which is why it was a great shock and terror to the people back then; you had not even expected someone to make a scene work that way. The world was left into in a state of awe and terror for a long time after its premiere.
5th Sep '17 4:23:42 PM ading
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** Towards the end of the movie, a police psychologist declares that Norman isn't homosexual, just "confused". Anthony Perkins was homosexual in real life, though (like other gay leading men of the day) this wasn't revealed until after his death.
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