History YMMV / PrinceValiant

7th Jul '17 1:42:21 PM StFan
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* AwesomeArt: Hal Foster is always held up as one of the handful of very best artists to have ever drawn a newspaper comic strip. His only real competition would probably be [[NewspaperComic/FlashGordon Alex Raymond]] or [[ComicStrip/LittleNemo Winsor McKay.]] The artists since Foster's retirement have been excellent, as well.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The strip is ''extremely'' popular in Germany, under the name ''Prinz Eisenherz'' ("Prince Ironheart").

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* AwesomeArt: Hal Foster is always held up as one of the handful of very best artists to have ever drawn a newspaper comic strip. His only real competition would probably be [[NewspaperComic/FlashGordon [[ComicStrip/FlashGordon Alex Raymond]] or [[ComicStrip/LittleNemo Winsor McKay.]] The artists since Foster's retirement have been excellent, as well.
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff:
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The strip is ''extremely'' popular in Germany, under the name ''Prinz Eisenherz'' ("Prince Ironheart").
25th Dec '16 2:59:48 PM HelloLamppost
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: In the early 2000's, a storyline had Camelot ''actually fall.'' The [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo]] was eventually restored, but it took a while, and the intervening lengthy storyline with all the main cast either in hiding or working behind the scenes was legitimately shocking.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: In the early 2000's, a storyline had Camelot ''actually fall.'' The [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo]] was eventually restored, but it took a while, and the intervening lengthy storyline with all the main cast either in hiding exile or in hiding, working behind the scenes scenes, was legitimately shocking.
25th Dec '16 2:58:10 PM HelloLamppost
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* AwesomeArt: Hal Foster is always held up as one of the handful of very best artists to have ever drawn a newspaper comic strip. His only real competition would probably be [[NewspaperComic/FlashGordon Alex Raymond]] or [[ComicStrip/LittleNemo Winsor McKay.]] The artists since Foster's retirement have been excellent, as well.
25th Dec '16 2:53:42 PM HelloLamppost
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: In the early 2000's, a story had Camelot ''actually fall.'' The [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo]] is eventually restored, but it takes a while, and the intervening lengthy storyline with all the main cast either in hiding or working behind the scenes was legitimately shocking.

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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: In the early 2000's, a story storyline had Camelot ''actually fall.'' The [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo]] is was eventually restored, but it takes took a while, and the intervening lengthy storyline with all the main cast either in hiding or working behind the scenes was legitimately shocking.
25th Dec '16 2:52:59 PM HelloLamppost
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* LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt: In the early 2000's, a story had Camelot ''actually fall.'' The [[StatusQuoIsGod status quo]] is eventually restored, but it takes a while, and the intervening lengthy storyline with all the main cast either in hiding or working behind the scenes was legitimately shocking.
2nd May '15 8:07:32 PM Phoenixion
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!! From the AnimatedAdaptation
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Where The Truth Lies". There's even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIO_VcHm4Zk a four-minute version]]!
* CompleteMonster:
** [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Frederick von Holsing]] from season 2's "The Walls of Tyranny" manages to outdo even recurring villains with his {{greed}} and lack of regard for human life. Von Holsing is a noble in the kingdom of Kengary, which has been at war with a neighboring nation for as long as anyone can remember. When King Ian, Frederick's uncle, makes inroads to initiate a lasting peace, Frederick murders him to [[FrameUp frame their enemies]] and keep the war going. It is revealed that Frederick intends to prolong the war indefinitely so he can take men, women and children as slaves to work to death in his private mines for his personal profit. When Valiant uncovers the plot, Frederick attempts to murder his friends, send Valiant to his mines and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty kidnap Valiant's female comrade Rowanne]] with the threat of making her his. Vain, [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] and greedy, Frederick von Holsing stands as the worst representative of nobility in all the series.
** Sage Advisor Selena is the TreacherousAdvisor to King Michael of the North. She engineers a civil war, which causes the deaths of several hundred people, to arrange a better puppet figurehead to become king. She also conspires to [[WouldHurtAChild murder an infant]], [[FrameUp frames Rowanne]] for a crime which makes her leave Camelot in disgrace, and turns an invention of peace into a war weapon in an attempt to frame Merlin for a crime. Vain, with no loyalties to anyone but herself, Selena surpassed the [[BigBad Mordred]] in terms of monstrosity.
* HilariousInHindsight: Robby Benson and Paige O'Hara lend their voices to the OfficialCouple Valiant and Aleta. They would play lovers in a future project, a little movie called ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''.
* RealWomenDontWearDresses: The trope is discussed in an episode in which Rowanne worries that no one will take her desire to be a knight seriously if she dresses like a woman. Queen Guinevere assures her otherwise.

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!! ! From the AnimatedAdaptation
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Where The Truth Lies". There's even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIO_VcHm4Zk a four-minute version]]!
* CompleteMonster:
** [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Frederick von Holsing]] from season 2's "The Walls of Tyranny" manages to outdo even recurring villains with his {{greed}} and lack of regard for human life. Von Holsing is a noble in the kingdom of Kengary, which has been at war with a neighboring nation for as long as anyone can remember. When King Ian, Frederick's uncle, makes inroads to initiate a lasting peace, Frederick murders him to [[FrameUp frame their enemies]] and keep the war going. It is revealed that Frederick intends to prolong the war indefinitely so he can take men, women and children as slaves to work to death in his private mines for his personal profit. When Valiant uncovers the plot, Frederick attempts to murder his friends, send Valiant to his mines and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty kidnap Valiant's female comrade Rowanne]] with the threat of making her his. Vain, [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] and greedy, Frederick von Holsing stands as the worst representative of nobility in all the series.
** Sage Advisor Selena is the TreacherousAdvisor to King Michael of the North. She engineers a civil war, which causes the deaths of several hundred people, to arrange a better puppet figurehead to become king. She also conspires to [[WouldHurtAChild murder an infant]], [[FrameUp frames Rowanne]] for a crime which makes her leave Camelot in disgrace, and turns an invention of peace into a war weapon in an attempt to frame Merlin for a crime. Vain, with no loyalties to anyone but herself, Selena surpassed the [[BigBad Mordred]] in terms of monstrosity.
* HilariousInHindsight: Robby Benson and Paige O'Hara lend their voices to the OfficialCouple Valiant and Aleta. They would play lovers in a future project, a little movie called ''Disney/BeautyAndTheBeast''.
* RealWomenDontWearDresses: The trope is discussed in an episode in which Rowanne worries that no one will take her desire to be a knight seriously if she dresses like a woman. Queen Guinevere assures her otherwise.
See ''YMMV/TheLegendOfPrinceValiant''
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21st Feb '15 1:17:13 AM ACW
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* Sage Advisor Selena is the TreacherousAdvisor to King Michael of the North. She engineers a civil war, which causes the deaths of several hundred people, to arrange a better puppet figurehead to become king. She also conspires to [[WouldHurtAChild murder an infant]], [[FrameUp frames Rowanne]] for a crime which makes her leave Camelot in disgrace, and turns an invention of peace into a war weapon in an attempt to frame Merlin for a crime. Vain, with no loyalties to anyone but herself, Selena surpassed the [[BigBad Mordred]] in terms of monstrosity.

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* ** Sage Advisor Selena is the TreacherousAdvisor to King Michael of the North. She engineers a civil war, which causes the deaths of several hundred people, to arrange a better puppet figurehead to become king. She also conspires to [[WouldHurtAChild murder an infant]], [[FrameUp frames Rowanne]] for a crime which makes her leave Camelot in disgrace, and turns an invention of peace into a war weapon in an attempt to frame Merlin for a crime. Vain, with no loyalties to anyone but herself, Selena surpassed the [[BigBad Mordred]] in terms of monstrosity.
21st Feb '15 1:17:03 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Sage Advisor Selena is the TreacherousAdvisor to King Michael of the North. She engineers a civil war, which causes the deaths of several hundred people, to arrange a better puppet figurehead to become king. She also conspires to [[WouldHurtAChild murder an infant]], [[FrameUp frames Rowanne]] for a crime which makes her leave Camelot in disgrace, and turns an invention of peace into a war weapon in an attempt to frame Merlin for a crime. Vain, with no loyalties to anyone but herself, Selena surpassed the [[BigBad Mordred]] in terms of monstrosity.

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* CompleteMonster: Sage CompleteMonster:
** [[AristocratsAreEvil Baron Frederick von Holsing]] from season 2's "The Walls of Tyranny" manages to outdo even recurring villains with his {{greed}} and lack of regard for human life. Von Holsing is a noble in the kingdom of Kengary, which has been at war with a neighboring nation for as long as anyone can remember. When King Ian, Frederick's uncle, makes inroads to initiate a lasting peace, Frederick murders him to [[FrameUp frame their enemies]] and keep the war going. It is revealed that Frederick intends to prolong the war indefinitely so he can take men, women and children as slaves to work to death in his private mines for his personal profit. When Valiant uncovers the plot, Frederick attempts to murder his friends, send Valiant to his mines and [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty kidnap Valiant's female comrade Rowanne]] with the threat of making her his. Vain, [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish]] and greedy, Frederick von Holsing stands as the worst representative of nobility in all the series.
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Advisor Selena is the TreacherousAdvisor to King Michael of the North. She engineers a civil war, which causes the deaths of several hundred people, to arrange a better puppet figurehead to become king. She also conspires to [[WouldHurtAChild murder an infant]], [[FrameUp frames Rowanne]] for a crime which makes her leave Camelot in disgrace, and turns an invention of peace into a war weapon in an attempt to frame Merlin for a crime. Vain, with no loyalties to anyone but herself, Selena surpassed the [[BigBad Mordred]] in terms of monstrosity.
7th Dec '14 6:07:20 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: Sage Advisor Selena is the TreacherousAdvisor to King Michael of the North. She engineers a civil war, which causes the deaths of several hundred people, to arrange a better puppet figurehead to become king. She also conspires to [[WouldHurtAChild murder an infant]], [[FrameUp frames Rowanne]] for a crime which makes her leave Camelot in disgrace, and turns an invention of peace into a war weapon in an attempt to frame Merlin for a crime. Vain, with no loyalties to anyone but herself, Selena surpassed the [[BigBad Mordred]] in terms of monstrosity.
29th Jul '14 9:19:27 PM Angeldeb82
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Where The Truth Lies". There's even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIO_VcHm4Zk a four-minute version]]!

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: "Where The Truth Lies". There's even [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIO_VcHm4Zk a four-minute version]]!



* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: The trope is discussed in an episode in which Rowanne worries that no one will take her desire to be a knight seriously if she dresses like a woman. Queen Guinevere assures her otherwise.

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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: RealWomenDontWearDresses: The trope is discussed in an episode in which Rowanne worries that no one will take her desire to be a knight seriously if she dresses like a woman. Queen Guinevere assures her otherwise.
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