History YMMV / PokemonZoroarkMasterOfIllusions

6th Dec '16 12:31:44 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: For some, Kodai's role as a HateSink works a little too well, and his mere presence and actions make the film almost entirely unlikeable.



** NarmCharm: Considering that this is ''Pokémon'', it can actually be quite endearing for some.

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** * NarmCharm: Considering that this is ''Pokémon'', it can actually be quite endearing for some.
22nd Sep '16 3:24:28 PM SpinAttaxx
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Zorua is either a cute and interesting character, or almost completely insufferable, depending on who you ask.
** Some hate Kodai for doing things that many consider far too bleak and horrible for the series, while others love him for that exact reason.



* EvilIsCool: [[TheScrappy Averted.]] Nobody really likes [[HateSink Kodai]], as he doesn't even come off as {{Badass}}.
* {{Macekre}}: The English Dub shown on Creator/CartoonNetwork was a CutAndPasteTranslation done without The Pokémon Company's knowlege. Among other things, the editing in the dub cut out plot-relevant bits, resulting in two noticeable {{plot hole}}s. The Pokémon Company's dub is generally considered better, and keeps the plot and spirit of the original version.

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* EvilIsCool: [[TheScrappy Averted.]] Nobody really likes [[HateSink Kodai]], DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: For some, Kodai's role as he doesn't even come off as {{Badass}}.
a HateSink works a little too well, and his mere presence and actions make the film almost entirely unlikeable.
* {{Macekre}}: The English Dub dub shown on Creator/CartoonNetwork was a CutAndPasteTranslation done without The Pokémon Company's knowlege. Among other things, the editing in the dub cut out plot-relevant bits, resulting in two noticeable {{plot hole}}s. The Pokémon Company's dub is generally considered better, and keeps the plot and spirit of the original version.



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: A good number of people consider it to be the best of the ''Diamond And Pearl'' films.

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* TheScrappy: Kodai is a disliked character among fans, but not [[LoveToHate in the way the movie intended]]. He lacks a personality and anything "cool" about him that'd make people [[RootingForTheEmpire admire him]], has almost no depth beyond "ruthless executive", and him [[spoiler:''strangling'' Celebi and electrocuting Pokémon with no restraint at all]] are often considered to be far too mean-spirited for the ''Pokémon'' franchise.
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: A good number of people consider it to be the best of the ''Diamond And and Pearl'' films, since it's allowed to stand on its own without having to awkwardly tie into one or two prior films.



* TheWoobie: Zorua. Especially at the climax.

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* TheWoobie: Zorua. Especially at the climax.climax.
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23rd Jul '16 3:06:27 PM Tropetastic1995
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* {{Macekre}}: The English Dub shown on Creator/CartoonNetwork was a CutAndPasteTranslation done without The Pokémon Company's knowlege. Among other things, the editing in the dub cut out plot-relevant bits, resulting in two noticeable {{plot hole}}s.

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* {{Macekre}}: The English Dub shown on Creator/CartoonNetwork was a CutAndPasteTranslation done without The Pokémon Company's knowlege. Among other things, the editing in the dub cut out plot-relevant bits, resulting in two noticeable {{plot hole}}s. The Pokémon Company's dub is generally considered better, and keeps the plot and spirit of the original version.
7th Jul '16 3:59:44 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* EvilIsCool: [[TheScrappy Averted.]] Nobody really likes [[CompleteMonster Kodai]], as he doesn't even come off as {{Badass}}.

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* EvilIsCool: [[TheScrappy Averted.]] Nobody really likes [[CompleteMonster [[HateSink Kodai]], as he doesn't even come off as {{Badass}}.
19th Aug '15 3:12:52 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: The BigBad, [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Grings Kodai]], is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive powerful businessman]] who discovered one of Celebi's Time Ripples. Gaining its power at the price of annihilating the nearby city's plant life, Kodai used this power for his own {{greed}}. In the current, Kodai kidnapped a Zoroark's baby Zorua, importing the baby into another region and using blackmail to force Zoroark to terrorize innocents to make himself look good. He intended to renew his abilities by touching the Time Ripple again, at the threat of once again devastating the ecosystem solely for the money. Once Zoroark tracks Kodai down, Kodai [[WouldHurtAChild threatens Zorua's life]], electrocuting it with his gauntlet to almost fatal extents to prove he was serious. Upon being tricked by Zoroark, Kodai [[VillainousBreakdown loses it]] and instead electrocutes Zoroark to death in his fury, just as the two were finally being reunited. An [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]] and [[SelfishEvil selfish]] opportunist of the worst kind, who only [[ItsAllAboutMe cared about himself]], Grings Kodai managed to be one of the most [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters despicable humans]] in the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise.

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* CompleteMonster: The BigBad, [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Grings Kodai]], is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive powerful businessman]] who discovered one of Celebi's Time Ripples. Gaining its power at the price of annihilating the nearby city's plant life, Kodai used this power for his own {{greed}}. In the current, Kodai kidnapped a Zoroark's baby Zorua, importing the baby into another region and using blackmail to force Zoroark to terrorize innocents to make himself look good. He intended to renew his abilities by touching the Time Ripple again, at the threat of once again devastating the ecosystem solely for the money. Once Zoroark tracks Kodai down, Kodai [[WouldHurtAChild threatens Zorua's life]], electrocuting it with his gauntlet to almost fatal extents to prove he was serious. Upon being tricked by Zoroark, Kodai [[VillainousBreakdown loses it]] and instead electrocutes Zoroark to death in his fury, just as the two were finally being reunited. An [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]] and [[SelfishEvil selfish]] selfish opportunist of the worst kind, who only [[ItsAllAboutMe cared about himself]], Grings Kodai managed to be one of the most [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters despicable humans]] in the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise.
10th Nov '14 7:29:46 PM OnTheHill
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** The brief look on her face when she and Zorua are stumbling towards one another. Up until that moment, Zoroark has never shown anything pure, ferocious resolve -- but for an instant, she looks close to tears.

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** The brief look on her face when she and Zorua are stumbling towards one another. Up until that moment, Zoroark has never shown anything but pure, ferocious resolve -- but for an instant, she looks close to tears.
30th Oct '14 1:16:55 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Grings Kodai]] is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive wealthy and powerful businessman]] who kidnapped both mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior at the cost of annihilating the city's plant life. He's willing to destroy the city's ecosystem a second time, just [[{{Greed}} for the money]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad The BigBad, [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Grings Kodai]] Kodai]], is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive wealthy and powerful businessman]] who kidnapped both mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All discovered one of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior Celebi's Time Ripples. Gaining its power at the cost price of annihilating the nearby city's plant life. He's willing to destroy life, Kodai used this power for his own {{greed}}. In the city's current, Kodai kidnapped a Zoroark's baby Zorua, importing the baby into another region and using blackmail to force Zoroark to terrorize innocents to make himself look good. He intended to renew his abilities by touching the Time Ripple again, at the threat of once again devastating the ecosystem a second time, just [[{{Greed}} solely for the money]].money. Once Zoroark tracks Kodai down, Kodai [[WouldHurtAChild threatens Zorua's life]], electrocuting it with his gauntlet to almost fatal extents to prove he was serious. Upon being tricked by Zoroark, Kodai [[VillainousBreakdown loses it]] and instead electrocutes Zoroark to death in his fury, just as the two were finally being reunited. An [[AmbitionIsEvil ambitious]] and [[SelfishEvil selfish]] opportunist of the worst kind, who only [[ItsAllAboutMe cared about himself]], Grings Kodai managed to be one of the most [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters despicable humans]] in the ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' franchise.
1st Sep '14 11:23:33 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Grings Kodai]] is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive wealthy and powerful businessman who kidnapped both mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior at the cost of annihilating the city's plant life. He's willing to destroy the city's ecosystem a second time, just [[{{Greed}} for the money]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Grings Kodai]] is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive wealthy and powerful businessman businessman]] who kidnapped both mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior at the cost of annihilating the city's plant life. He's willing to destroy the city's ecosystem a second time, just [[{{Greed}} for the money]].
1st Sep '14 11:23:19 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Grings Kodai]] kidnapped both a mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior at the cost of annihilating the city's plant life. He's willing to destroy the city's ecosystem a second time, [[{{Greed}} for the money]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Grings Kodai]] is a [[CorruptCorporateExecutive wealthy and powerful businessman who kidnapped both a mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior at the cost of annihilating the city's plant life. He's willing to destroy the city's ecosystem a second time, just [[{{Greed}} for the money]].
20th Jul '14 8:47:29 PM Cakeman
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Grings Kodai]] kidnapped both mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior at the cost of annihilating the city's plant life. He's willing to destroy the city's ecosystem a second time, [[{{Greed}} for the money]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Grings Kodai]] kidnapped both a mother and child Pokémon from their homeland, imported them into another region, and blackmailed the mother into doing his bidding by threatening to kill the child. All of this is to cause the evacuation of a large city so he can find an energy cluster left behind by time-traveling Pokémon Celebi and absorb it, renewing his ability to see the future, which he acquired twenty years prior at the cost of annihilating the city's plant life. He's willing to destroy the city's ecosystem a second time, [[{{Greed}} for the money]].
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