History YMMV / PokemonLive

13th Jun '18 5:18:40 PM lalalei2001
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* EpilepticTrees: The show having Giovanni be Ash's father in an earlier draft, as well as the finished product having him date Delia before she met her husband, gave credence to the "Giovanni is Ash's father" theory for the main anime.

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* EpilepticTrees: The show having Giovanni be Ash's father in an earlier draft, as well as the finished product having him date Delia before she met her husband, gave credence to the "Giovanni is Ash's father" theory for the main anime. An interview with the writer of the show revealed this was intentional, stating the intent was to imply Giovanni was Ash's biological father before Delia met the man she eventually married.



* FanonDiscontinuity: The show makes it clear that Delia left Giovanni for Ash's father, however fans are more likely to reinterpret Giovanni ''as'' Ash's dad, which was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally planned]]. Not helping are comments that imply they had sex at least once.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: The show makes it clear that Delia left Giovanni for Ash's father, however fans are more likely to reinterpret Giovanni ''as'' Ash's dad, which was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally planned]]. Not helping are comments that imply they had sex at least once.once, as well as the show writer saying in an interview that the implication was intentional.



* RelationshipWritingFumble: Originally, [[LukeIAmYourFather Giovanni was Ash's father]], rather than Delia dating him before she met Ash's father. However, they still have a lot of subtext and innuendo together in the finished product, and as a result it's easy to see Giovanni still being Ash's biological father.

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* RelationshipWritingFumble: Originally, [[LukeIAmYourFather Giovanni was Ash's father]], rather than Delia dating him before she met Ash's father. However, they still have a lot of subtext and innuendo together in the finished product, and as a result it's easy to see Giovanni still being Ash's biological father. This turned out to be [[InvokedTrope invoked]] by the writer, whose intent was to suggest he was Ash's father rather than outright say it.
10th Jun '18 4:14:48 PM lalalei2001
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* {{HSQ}}: The last 15 minutes have, in rapid succession, a series of events that make the preceding 45 minutes worth it:

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* {{HSQ}}: The last 15 minutes have, in rapid succession, a series of events that make the preceding 45 minutes hour and a half worth it:
10th Jun '18 4:09:26 PM lalalei2001
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** During Giovanni's VillainSong, he refers to [=MechaMew2=] as a [[Anime/PokemonVolcanionAndTheMechanicalMarvel Mechanical Marvel]]. Spoofed [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZm8xe1mb08 here]].

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** During Giovanni's VillainSong, he refers to [=MechaMew2=] as a [[Anime/PokemonVolcanionAndTheMechanicalMarvel Mechanical Marvel]].Marvel]], which later became a movie title, and Magearna's status as an artificial Pokemon made by humans also brings the musical to mind. Spoofed [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZm8xe1mb08 here]].
13th Apr '18 6:15:27 PM lalalei2001
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* FanonDiscontinuity: The show makes it clear that Delia left Giovanni for Ash's father, however fans are more likely to reinterpret Giovanni ''as'' Ash's dad himself.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: The show makes it clear that Delia left Giovanni for Ash's father, however fans are more likely to reinterpret Giovanni ''as'' Ash's dad himself.dad, which was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally planned]]. Not helping are comments that imply they had sex at least once.


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* RelationshipWritingFumble: Originally, [[LukeIAmYourFather Giovanni was Ash's father]], rather than Delia dating him before she met Ash's father. However, they still have a lot of subtext and innuendo together in the finished product, and as a result it's easy to see Giovanni still being Ash's biological father.
20th Mar '18 10:09:26 PM Pichu-kun
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* FanonDiscontinuity: The show makes it clear that Delia left Giovanni for Ash's father, however fans are more likely to reinterpret Giovanni ''as'' Ash's dad himself.


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* {{Narm}}: "I've Got A Secret" is a perfectly fine ballad about keeping secrets, until Misty sings "But he shares it all with Pokémon" and that kills the momentum.
20th Mar '18 10:02:50 PM Pichu-kun
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: ''You Just Can't Win'' for all the fans who would've liked to see Ash and Giovanni actually face each other. This was the closest they'd come to a fight until the ''Best Wishes'' series 13 years later. The song is made even cooler in context, as it takes place after [=MechaMew2=] defeats Pikachu, so Ash tries to fight Giovanni himself.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: CrowningMusicOfAwesome:
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''You Just Can't Win'' for all the fans who would've liked to see Ash and Giovanni actually face each other. This was the closest they'd come to a fight until the ''Best Wishes'' series 13 years later. The song is made even cooler in context, as it takes place after [=MechaMew2=] defeats Pikachu, so Ash tries to fight Giovanni himself.



* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" talks about how Ash, Misty and Brock will adventure together forever, which is awkward since Misty and Brock were PutOnABus and stopped traveling with Ash. It became HeartwarmingInHindsight with their return appearances in the Sun/Moon anime, though.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" talks about how Ash, Misty and Brock will adventure together forever, which is awkward since Misty and Brock were PutOnABus and stopped traveling with Ash. It became HeartwarmingInHindsight with their return appearances in the Sun/Moon ''Sun/Moon'' anime, though.



** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is [[ComicBookTime eternally]] 10.

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** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is [[ComicBookTime eternally]] 10.[[NotAllowedToGrowUp 10]].



* {{HSQ}}: The last 15 minutes have, in rapid succession, a series of events that make the preceding 45 minutes worth it.

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* {{HSQ}}: The last 15 minutes have, in rapid succession, a series of events that make the preceding 45 minutes worth it.it:



* SoBadItsGood: Again, it probably would have been just plain good if Pokemon ''hadn't'' been involved.

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* SoBadItsGood: Again, it probably would have been just plain good if Pokemon ''Pokemon'' ''hadn't'' been involved.
3rd Jan '18 2:20:05 PM lalalei2001
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have left the show when the anime's StrictlyFormula kicked in and was fully finalized in 2010, though it became HeartwarmingInHindsight with their appearances in the Sun/Moon anime.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" talks about how Ash, Misty and Brock will adventure together forever, which is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have left the show when the anime's StrictlyFormula kicked in were PutOnABus and was fully finalized in 2010, though it stopped traveling with Ash. It became HeartwarmingInHindsight with their return appearances in the Sun/Moon anime.anime, though.



** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is [[ComicBookTime ete]][[NotAllowedToGrowUp rna]][[NeverGrewUp lly]] 10.
** "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have [[StrictlyFormula permanently]] left the show.

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** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is [[ComicBookTime ete]][[NotAllowedToGrowUp rna]][[NeverGrewUp lly]] eternally]] 10.
** "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have [[StrictlyFormula permanently]] left the show.
3rd Jan '18 1:38:35 PM MysteriousZorua1994
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** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is [[ComicBookTime etr]][[NotAllowedToGrowUp rna]][[NeverGrewUp lly]] 10.
** "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have left the show.

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** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is [[ComicBookTime etr]][[NotAllowedToGrowUp ete]][[NotAllowedToGrowUp rna]][[NeverGrewUp lly]] 10.
** "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have [[StrictlyFormula permanently]] left the show.
3rd Jan '18 1:36:38 PM MysteriousZorua1994
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have left the show, though it became HeartwarmingInHindsight with their appearances in the Sun/Moon anime.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have left the show, show when the anime's StrictlyFormula kicked in and was fully finalized in 2010, though it became HeartwarmingInHindsight with their appearances in the Sun/Moon anime.



** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is still 10.

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** Delia's reluctance to watch Ash grow up, since Ash in the anime is still [[ComicBookTime etr]][[NotAllowedToGrowUp rna]][[NeverGrewUp lly]] 10.
4th Nov '17 9:31:01 AM lalalei2001
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have left the show.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: "My Best Friends" is a little awkward since Misty and Brock have left the show.show, though it became HeartwarmingInHindsight with their appearances in the Sun/Moon anime.
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