History YMMV / PokemonBlack2AndWhite2

26th Aug '16 3:45:36 PM Chubzhac
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Colress. Was he clearly in league with Ghetsis wanting to destroy Unova for the sake of discovering the power of Pokémon or was his "personal intellectual curiosity" (as Ghetsis said) what he was really out for and wanting Unova to be for the better?

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Colress. Was he clearly in league with Ghetsis wanting to destroy Unova for the sake of discovering the power of Pokémon or was his "personal intellectual curiosity" (as Ghetsis said) what he was really out for and wanting Unova to be for the better?better?
** Was N really just an orphan Ghetsis came across one day or did Ghetsis abandon his own son in the woods to spend his early years being [[RaisedByWolves raised by Mons]] in order to more easily indoctrinate N to his goals and to be able to present a miracle child as the king of Team Plasma and get more loyal followers.
17th Aug '16 6:31:12 PM Darthrai
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** While due to unfortunate circumstances beyond Game Freak's control, ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are infamous for heavily relying on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for many of their features, but for only having those features actually usable for ''one and a half years''.[[note]]Actually slightly under 2 years in Japan; this is also a problem with ''Black'' and ''White'', but they were at least active for longer.[[/note]]

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** While due to unfortunate circumstances beyond Game Freak's control, ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are infamous for heavily relying on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for many of their features, but for only having those features actually usable for ''one and a half years''.[[note]]Actually slightly under 2 years in Japan; this is also a problem with Japan.[[/note]] ''Black'' and ''White'', ''White'' also suffer from this, but they were at least active for longer.[[/note]] longer, while the Generation IV games have been less crippled in comparison due to their lower reliance on Internet features.
17th Aug '16 6:29:54 PM Darthrai
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* BonusFeatureFailure: The Nature Preserve, unlocked after seeing all Pokémon in the new Unova Pokédex, is touted as having a bunch of rare Pokémon... but the only Pokémon there that you can't already find elsewhere (and that includes the shiny Haxorus, since you could conceivably find a shiny Axew and evolve it all the way) are Magikarp, Gyarados, and Nuzleaf, which COULD be useful if you hadn't already beaten the game.

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The Nature Preserve, unlocked after seeing all Pokémon in the new Unova Pokédex, is touted as having a bunch of rare Pokémon... but the only Pokémon there that you can't already find elsewhere (and that includes the shiny Haxorus, since you could conceivably find a shiny Axew and evolve it all the way) are Magikarp, Gyarados, and Nuzleaf, which COULD be useful if you hadn't already beaten the game.game.
** While due to unfortunate circumstances beyond Game Freak's control, ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are infamous for heavily relying on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for many of their features, but for only having those features actually usable for ''one and a half years''.[[note]]Actually slightly under 2 years in Japan; this is also a problem with ''Black'' and ''White'', but they were at least active for longer.[[/note]]



** While due to unfortunate circumstances beyond Game Freak's control, ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are infamous for heavily relying on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for many of their features, but for only having those features actually usable for ''one and a half years''.[[note]]slightly under 2 years in Japan; this is also a problem with ''Black'' and ''White'', but they were at least active for longer[[/note]] As such, fans are divided on whether the games are merely shadows of their former selves, or whether they still hold up the way the Generation IV games do (which were less reliant on Wi-Fi features).
17th Aug '16 6:28:21 PM Darthrai
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** While due to unfortunate circumstances beyond Game Freak's control, ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are infamous for heavily relying on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for many of their features, but for only having those features actually usable for ''one and a half years''[[note]]slightly under 2 years in Japan; this is also a problem with ''Black'' and ''White'', but they were at least active for longer[[/note]]. As such, fans are divided on whether the games are merely shadows of their former selves, or whether they still hold up the way the Generation IV games do (which were less reliant on Wi-Fi features).

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** While due to unfortunate circumstances beyond Game Freak's control, ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are infamous for heavily relying on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for many of their features, but for only having those features actually usable for ''one and a half years''[[note]]slightly years''.[[note]]slightly under 2 years in Japan; this is also a problem with ''Black'' and ''White'', but they were at least active for longer[[/note]]. longer[[/note]] As such, fans are divided on whether the games are merely shadows of their former selves, or whether they still hold up the way the Generation IV games do (which were less reliant on Wi-Fi features).
17th Aug '16 6:28:02 PM Darthrai
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** While due to unfortunate circumstances beyond Game Freak's control, ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' are infamous for heavily relying on Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for many of their features, but for only having those features actually usable for ''one and a half years''[[note]]slightly under 2 years in Japan; this is also a problem with ''Black'' and ''White'', but they were at least active for longer[[/note]]. As such, fans are divided on whether the games are merely shadows of their former selves, or whether they still hold up the way the Generation IV games do (which were less reliant on Wi-Fi features).
17th Aug '16 11:31:46 AM Darthrai
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* ContestedSequel: In two respects. Most fans argue that these games [[ToughActToFollow don't live up to]] ''Pokémon Black'' and ''Pokémon White'' story-wise, but that the much larger Pokédex and plethora of postgame features more than make up for it. Additionally, while many dedicated Pokémon fans consider ''Pokémon Black 2'' and ''Pokémon White 2'' to be among the best games in the series (maybe even the best overall), some fans of the older generations (especially [[FirstInstallmentWins Gen I]]) pass them over, since the focus is still on Gen V's Pokémon and characters despite the presence of many older Pokémon and appearances by characters from other regions (including in the PWT).[[note]]To drive this point home, no starters and mascot legendaries are available in the game besides Unova's [[NoExceptYes except via Dream Radar if the player owns any Generation IV game]], unlike in other generations where later games (most obviously Generations III, IV and VI) would give access to previous generations' starters and mascot or "Uber" legendaries.[[/note]] Additionally, reviews at the time occasionally argued that the games didn't do much to innovate and were just "more of the same"; most of the praise for ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' comes from features and options that are appreciated more by hardcore fans than casual players, creating a divide similar to the franchise's own CasualCompetitiveConflict.

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* ContestedSequel: In two respects. Most fans argue that these games [[ToughActToFollow don't live up to]] ''Pokémon Black'' and ''Pokémon White'' story-wise, but that the much larger Pokédex and plethora of postgame features more than make up for it. Additionally, while many dedicated Pokémon fans consider ''Pokémon Black 2'' and ''Pokémon White 2'' to be among the best games in the series (maybe even the best overall), some fans of the older generations (especially [[FirstInstallmentWins Gen I]]) pass them over, since the focus is still on Gen V's Pokémon and characters despite the presence of many older Pokémon and appearances by characters from other regions (including in the PWT).[[note]]To drive this point home, no starters and mascot legendaries are available in the game besides Unova's [[NoExceptYes except via Dream Radar if the player owns any Generation IV game]], unlike in other generations where later games (most obviously Generations III, IV and VI) would give access to previous generations' starters and mascot or "Uber" legendaries.[[/note]] Additionally, reviews at the time occasionally argued that the games didn't do much to innovate and were just "more of the same"; most of the praise for ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' comes from features and options that are appreciated more by hardcore fans than casual players, creating a divide similar to the franchise's own CasualCompetitiveConflict.CasualCompetitiveConflict - especially since these games have a FandomRivalry with ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' and their more casual-leaning fanbase.
16th Aug '16 6:36:50 PM Darthrai
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* ContestedSequel: In two respects. Most fans argue that these games [[ToughActToFollow don't live up to]] ''Pokémon Black'' and ''Pokémon White'' story-wise, but that the much larger Pokédex and plethora of postgame features more than make up for it. Additionally, while many dedicated Pokémon fans consider ''Pokémon Black 2'' and ''Pokémon White 2'' to be among the best games in the series (maybe even the best overall), some fans of the older generations (especially [[FirstInstallmentWins Gen I]]) pass them over, since the focus is still on Gen V's Pokémon and characters despite the presence of many older Pokémon and appearances by characters from other regions (including in the PWT).[[note]]To drive this point home, no starters and mascot legendaries are available in the game besides Unova's, unlike in other generations where later games (most obviously Generations III, IV and VI) would give access to previous generations' starters and mascot or "Uber" legendaries.[[/note]] Additionally, reviews at the time occasionally argued that the games didn't do much to innovate and were just "more of the same"; most of the praise for ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' comes from features and options that are appreciated more by hardcore fans than casual players, creating a divide similar to the franchise's own CasualCompetitiveConflict.

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* ContestedSequel: In two respects. Most fans argue that these games [[ToughActToFollow don't live up to]] ''Pokémon Black'' and ''Pokémon White'' story-wise, but that the much larger Pokédex and plethora of postgame features more than make up for it. Additionally, while many dedicated Pokémon fans consider ''Pokémon Black 2'' and ''Pokémon White 2'' to be among the best games in the series (maybe even the best overall), some fans of the older generations (especially [[FirstInstallmentWins Gen I]]) pass them over, since the focus is still on Gen V's Pokémon and characters despite the presence of many older Pokémon and appearances by characters from other regions (including in the PWT).[[note]]To drive this point home, no starters and mascot legendaries are available in the game besides Unova's, Unova's [[NoExceptYes except via Dream Radar if the player owns any Generation IV game]], unlike in other generations where later games (most obviously Generations III, IV and VI) would give access to previous generations' starters and mascot or "Uber" legendaries.[[/note]] Additionally, reviews at the time occasionally argued that the games didn't do much to innovate and were just "more of the same"; most of the praise for ''Black 2'' and ''White 2'' comes from features and options that are appreciated more by hardcore fans than casual players, creating a divide similar to the franchise's own CasualCompetitiveConflict.
16th Aug '16 6:25:21 PM Darthrai
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** Just like the Arceus event in ''Pokémon [=HeartGold=]'' and ''Pokémon [=SoulSilver=]'', playing on a Nintendo 3DS and using Pokémon Dream Radar with a Generation IV game lets you get a Level 5 [[OlympusMons Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lugia or Ho-Oh]] for use in the game with its Hidden Ability[[note]]which is especially helpful for Ho-Oh and Lugia since they get the very useful Regenerator and Multiscale, respectively[[/note]] and your own Trainer ID,[[note]]which allows the Pokémon to obey you regardless of how many gym badges you have[[/note]] which gives you a very powerful DiscOneNuke that continues to dominate later on in the game since its stats are higher than ''anything'' else you can obtain during the story due to Reshiram/Zekrom and Kyurem being locked away until the postgame. The best part is that this method doesn't rely on the now-defunct Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or a second DS system, unlike other ways of obtaining older Legendary Pokémon - although [[CrackIsCheaper the Gen IV games themselves can get fairly expensive, especially the Johto ones]].

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** Just like the Arceus event in ''Pokémon [=HeartGold=]'' and ''Pokémon [=SoulSilver=]'', playing on a Nintendo 3DS and using Pokémon Dream Radar with a Generation IV game lets you get a Level 5 [[OlympusMons Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lugia or Ho-Oh]] for use in the game with its Hidden Ability[[note]]which is especially helpful for Ho-Oh and Lugia since they get the very useful Regenerator and Multiscale, respectively[[/note]] and your own Trainer ID,[[note]]which allows the Pokémon to obey you regardless of how many gym badges you have[[/note]] which gives you a very powerful DiscOneNuke that continues to dominate later on in the game since its stats are higher than ''anything'' else you can obtain during the story due to Reshiram/Zekrom and Kyurem being locked away until the postgame. The best part is that this method doesn't rely on the now-defunct Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or a second DS system, unlike other ways of obtaining older Legendary Pokémon - although [[CrackIsCheaper the Gen IV games themselves can get fairly expensive, especially the Johto ones]].ones.
16th Aug '16 6:23:37 PM Darthrai
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** Just like the Arceus event in ''Pokémon [=HeartGold=]'' and ''Pokémon [=SoulSilver=]'', playing on a Nintendo 3DS and using Pokémon Dream Radar with a Generation IV game lets you get a Level 5 [[OlympusMons Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lugia or Ho-Oh]] for use in the game with your own Trainer ID and its hidden ability. The best part is that this method doesn't rely on the now-defunct Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or a second DS system, unlike other ways of obtaining older Legendary Pokémon) - although [[CrackIsCheaper the Gen IV games themselves can get fairly expensive, especially the Johto ones]].

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** Just like the Arceus event in ''Pokémon [=HeartGold=]'' and ''Pokémon [=SoulSilver=]'', playing on a Nintendo 3DS and using Pokémon Dream Radar with a Generation IV game lets you get a Level 5 [[OlympusMons Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lugia or Ho-Oh]] for use in the game with its Hidden Ability[[note]]which is especially helpful for Ho-Oh and Lugia since they get the very useful Regenerator and Multiscale, respectively[[/note]] and your own Trainer ID ID,[[note]]which allows the Pokémon to obey you regardless of how many gym badges you have[[/note]] which gives you a very powerful DiscOneNuke that continues to dominate later on in the game since its stats are higher than ''anything'' else you can obtain during the story due to Reshiram/Zekrom and its hidden ability. Kyurem being locked away until the postgame. The best part is that this method doesn't rely on the now-defunct Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or a second DS system, unlike other ways of obtaining older Legendary Pokémon) Pokémon - although [[CrackIsCheaper the Gen IV games themselves can get fairly expensive, especially the Johto ones]].
16th Aug '16 6:20:47 PM Darthrai
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** Just like the Arceus event in ''Pokémon [=HeartGold=]'' and ''Pokémon [=SoulSilver=]'', playing on a Nintendo 3DS and using Pokémon Dream Radar with a Generation IV game lets you get a Level 5 [[OlympusMons Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lugia or Ho-Oh]] for use in the game with your own Trainer ID and its hidden ability. The best part is that this method doesn't rely on the now-defunct Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or a second DS system (unlike other ways of obtaining older Legendary Pokémon), although the hard part is [[CrackIsCheaper getting the Generation IV game in the first place, especially with the Johto ones]].

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** Just like the Arceus event in ''Pokémon [=HeartGold=]'' and ''Pokémon [=SoulSilver=]'', playing on a Nintendo 3DS and using Pokémon Dream Radar with a Generation IV game lets you get a Level 5 [[OlympusMons Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lugia or Ho-Oh]] for use in the game with your own Trainer ID and its hidden ability. The best part is that this method doesn't rely on the now-defunct Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or a second DS system (unlike system, unlike other ways of obtaining older Legendary Pokémon), Pokémon) - although the hard part is [[CrackIsCheaper getting the Generation Gen IV game in the first place, games themselves can get fairly expensive, especially with the Johto ones]].
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