History YMMV / PinkFloyd

15th Aug '16 6:24:50 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheyJustDidntCare: The American version of ''A Nice Pair'', a compilation of the band's first two albums, substituted a live version of "Astronomy Domine" for the studio version for some reason.
12th Aug '16 3:19:08 AM gewunomox
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* ArchivePanic: Their official discography isn't exactly small, but the amount of bootlegs available is just [[http://www.pf-roio.de/roio/roio-cd-index-name.html staggering]]. There's even an official FanNickname for them: [=ROIOs=], or Recordings of Indeterminate (or Illegitimate) Origin.

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* ArchivePanic: Their official discography isn't exactly small, but the amount of bootlegs available is just [[http://www.pf-roio.de/roio/roio-cd-index-name.html staggering]]. There's even an official FanNickname for them: [=ROIOs=], ROIO's, or Recordings of Indeterminate (or Illegitimate) Origin.



* CrazyAwesome: Music/SydBarrett. Emphasis on the "crazy" part.
* CriticalBacklash: They triggered a big one at the height of their career. NME was the biggest culprit, with a [[AccentuateTheNegative notoriously scathing]] concert review from the mid-1970s. For the most popular band performing a major DeadHorseGenre, it seems inevitable that critics would run them through a wood chipper.
** Critics were not pleased that a the 80s began with a ProgressiveRock band at #1.

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* CrazyAwesome: Music/SydBarrett.Syd Barrett. Emphasis on the "crazy" part.
* CriticalBacklash: They triggered a big one at the height of their career. NME was the biggest culprit, with a [[AccentuateTheNegative notoriously scathing]] concert review from the mid-1970s.mid-1970's. For the most popular band performing a major DeadHorseGenre, it seems inevitable that critics would run them through a wood chipper.
** Critics were not pleased that a the 80s '80s began with a ProgressiveRock band at #1.



* EndingFatigue: Usually inverted, as the songs take forever to ''[[EpicInstrumentalOpener start]]'' ("Time", "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", "Us and Them"), but played straight sometimes ("Atom Heart Mother"). "Echoes" and "Atom Heart Mother" take the cake, though: they take forever to start ''and'' end. (The band members themselves were critical of the latter in later years for its lack of focus.) "A Saucerful of Secrets" gets a special mention for not really having what can be called a "start" or an "end".

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* EndingFatigue: Usually inverted, as the songs take forever to ''[[EpicInstrumentalOpener start]]'' ("Time", "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", "Us and Them"), but played straight sometimes ("Atom Heart Mother"). "Echoes" and "Atom Heart Mother" take the cake, though: they They take forever to start ''and'' end. (The band members themselves were critical of the latter in later years for its lack of focus.) "A Saucerful of Secrets" gets a special mention for not really having what can be called a "start" or an "end".



* HarsherInHindsight: ''Music/TheFinalCut'' by Pink Floyd is both disturbingly prophetic and harrowing to listen to. Granted, the album was protesting the 1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands by the UK, but the track "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert" features someone (Roger Waters) screaming, "Hey! Get your filthy hands off my desert!", followed shortly by the sound of an airplane (or possibly artillery shells or missiles: it's really quite nondescript) flying over and an explosion. Yikes.

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* HarsherInHindsight: ''Music/TheFinalCut'' by Pink Floyd is both disturbingly prophetic and harrowing to listen to. Granted, the album was protesting the 1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands by the UK, but the track "Get Your Filthy Hands Off My Desert" features someone (Roger Waters) screaming, "Hey! Get your filthy hands off my desert!", followed shortly by the sound of an airplane (or possibly artillery shells or missiles: it's It's really quite nondescript) flying over and an explosion. Yikes.



*** Somewhat similarly, "Dogs" contains the lyrics "Just another sad old man/all alone and dying of cancer" which become much harsher when you realize Richard Wright died of cancer and that he suffered from depression.
** Nick Mason joking that "we lust after money to some extent" in ''Live in Pompeii'' becomes harsher in light of the difficulties Pink Floyd had in dealing with their success after ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon''. The joke itself also becomes a bit more serious since in a previous interview section, David Gilmour states that he had a "breadline or less" existence before joining Pink Floyd. (Gilmour is actually [[{{Understatement}} understating]] it: he unsuccessfully busked around Spain and France before joining Pink Floyd and actually required treatment for malnutrition.)

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*** Somewhat similarly, "Dogs" contains the lyrics "Just another sad old man/all man / all alone and dying of cancer" which become much harsher when you realize Richard Wright died of cancer and that he suffered from depression.
** Nick Mason joking that "we lust after money to some extent" in ''Live in Pompeii'' becomes harsher in light of the difficulties Pink Floyd had in dealing with their success after ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon''. The joke itself also becomes a bit more serious since in a previous interview section, David Gilmour states that he had a "breadline or less" existence before joining Pink Floyd. (Gilmour is actually [[{{Understatement}} understating]] it: he He unsuccessfully busked around Spain and France before joining Pink Floyd and actually required treatment for malnutrition.)
18th Jun '16 9:42:52 PM bt8257
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* EndingFatigue: Usually inverted, as the songs take forever to ''[[EpicInstrumentalOpener start]]'' ("Time", "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", "Us And Them"), but played straight sometimes ("Atom Heart Mother"). "Echoes" and "Atom Heart Mother" take the cake, though: they take forever to start ''and'' end. (The band members themselves were critical of the latter in later years for its lack of focus.) "A Saucerful of Secrets" gets a special mention for not really having what can be called a "start" or an "end".

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* EndingFatigue: Usually inverted, as the songs take forever to ''[[EpicInstrumentalOpener start]]'' ("Time", "Shine On You Crazy Diamond", "Us And and Them"), but played straight sometimes ("Atom Heart Mother"). "Echoes" and "Atom Heart Mother" take the cake, though: they take forever to start ''and'' end. (The band members themselves were critical of the latter in later years for its lack of focus.) "A Saucerful of Secrets" gets a special mention for not really having what can be called a "start" or an "end".



** Syd Barrett. He's only been a part of the first two albums out of the fourteen total (he hardly contributed to the second one), yet he's one of the most fondly known members amongst fans and even the rest of the band. Especially in contrast with Nick Mason, who appeared on all of the albums yet is not as widely acknowledged as Syd or the others.
* FaceOfTheBand: First Syd, later Roger and David. Subverted in that the band strove not to have a "face." This was much easier before the Internet made fans aware of what the band members actually looked like.

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** Syd Barrett. He's only been a part of the first two albums out of the fourteen total (he hardly contributed to the second one), yet he's one of the most fondly known members amongst fans and even the rest of the band. Especially in contrast with Nick Mason, who appeared on all of the albums yet is not as widely acknowledged as Syd or the others.
* FaceOfTheBand: First Syd, later Roger and David. Subverted in that the band strove not to have a "face." "face". This was much easier before the Internet made fans aware of what the band members actually looked like.



* MostAnnoyingSound: An ''intentional'' application of this trope, on the long-play record for ''Music/AtomHeartMother''. The last song, ''Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast'', ends with the sound of dripping from a kitchen tap. On the LP, the groove was made in a loop at the end, so that the needle would continuously play through that dripping sound over and over again until manually lifted off the record or turned off entirely, [[FridgeBrilliance simulating a leaky faucet in the kitchen in record-form]].

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* MostAnnoyingSound: An ''intentional'' application of this trope, on the long-play record for ''Music/AtomHeartMother''. The last song, ''Alan's "Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast'', Breakfast", ends with the sound of dripping from a kitchen tap. On the LP, the groove was made in a loop at the end, so that the needle would continuously play through that dripping sound over and over again until manually lifted off the record or turned off entirely, [[FridgeBrilliance simulating a leaky faucet in the kitchen in record-form]].



* ToughActToFollow: The whole band while making ''Wish You Were Here''. Not only were they [[ToughActToFollow trying to follow up a massive hit album]], Roger and Nick were both going through divorces. Eventually Waters decided the only way the album was going to get done was to make it about the pressures and sense of alienation the band were experiencing then and there, even though it meant throwing out about half the material they had at that point (most of the discarded material was later reworked as the songs "Dogs" and "Sheep", from ''Animals'').

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* ToughActToFollow: The whole band while making ''Wish You Were Here''. Not only were they [[ToughActToFollow trying to follow up a massive hit album]], album, Roger and Nick were both going through divorces. Eventually Waters decided the only way the album was going to get done was to make it about the pressures and sense of alienation the band were experiencing then and there, even though it meant throwing out about half the material they had at that point (most of the discarded material was later reworked as the songs "Dogs" and "Sheep", from ''Animals'').''Music/{{Animals}}'').
18th Jun '16 9:38:24 PM bt8257
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** Like a lot of classic rock bands, including Music/LedZeppelin, critics ''''HATED''''' them in TheSeventies but proclaim the band as geniuses today.

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** Like a lot of classic rock bands, including Music/LedZeppelin, critics ''''HATED''''' '''''HATED''''' them in TheSeventies but proclaim the band as geniuses today.
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* DorkAge: The band members themselves see the period between Syd Barrett leaving and the release of ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' as this.

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* DorkAge: The band members themselves see the period between Syd Barrett leaving and the release of ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'' ''Music/{{Meddle}}'' as this.



** "The Great Gig In The Sky", which Richard Wright composed, after his death.

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** "The Great Gig In The in the Sky", which Richard Wright composed, after his death.



* HellIsThatNoise: Waters' screaming in "Careful With That Axe, Eugene".
** Or ''Pow R Toc H'', ''Several Species of Small Furry Animals...'' or any song with Waters' various bizzaro, screechy, screamo, pterodactyl noises.
** The inhuman, maggot-like buzzing noises in "Hey You" after the line , "And the Worms ate into his brain" count as well.

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* HellIsThatNoise: Waters' screaming in "Careful With That Axe, "CarefulWithThatAxe, Eugene".
** Or ''Pow R Toc H'', ''Several Species of Small Furry Animals...'' or any song with Waters' various bizzaro, bizarre, screechy, screamo, pterodactyl noises.
** The inhuman, maggot-like buzzing noises in "Hey You" after the line , line, "And the Worms ate into his brain" count as well.



*** Somewhat [[JustifiedTrope justified]], in that the audiences Pink Floyd played in 1967 as an underground British psychedelic band ''were'' consierably smaller, more intimate, and manageable than the ones they'd play to by the late 1970's as a successful "arena rock" band. Roger had a lot more reason to feel hostile as they played to bigger, rowdier crowds than in their earlier years.
** The line "Witness the man who raves at the wall" in "Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun".

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*** Somewhat [[JustifiedTrope justified]], in that the audiences Pink Floyd played they had in 1967 as an underground British psychedelic band ''were'' consierably considerably smaller, more intimate, and manageable than the ones they'd play to by the late 1970's as a successful "arena rock" band. Roger had a lot more reason to feel hostile as they played to bigger, rowdier crowds than in their earlier years.
** The line "Witness the man who raves at the wall" in "Set The the Controls for the Heart of the Sun".



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: How a number of Floyd fans see Roger Waters (considering his activism, philanthropy and such) while others just see a JerkAss who's got a massive ego. Depending on who you ask, he's either these and/or TheArtist, InsufferableGenius, AntiHero, DracoInLeatherPants, KnowNothingKnowItAll, SmallNameBigEgo, SmugSnake, NotEvilJustMisunderstood, JerkassWoobie, etc.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: How a number of Floyd fans see Roger Waters (considering his activism, philanthropy and such) while others just see a JerkAss {{jerkass}} who's got a massive ego. Depending on who you ask, he's either these and/or TheArtist, InsufferableGenius, AntiHero, DracoInLeatherPants, KnowNothingKnowItAll, SmallNameBigEgo, SmugSnake, NotEvilJustMisunderstood, JerkassWoobie, etc.



* MostAnnoyingSound: An ''intentional'' application of this trope, on the long-play record for ''Atom Heart Mother''. The last song, ''Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast'', ends with the sound of dripping from a kitchen tap. On the LP, the groove was made in a loop at the end, so that the needle would continuously play through that dripping sound over and over again until manually lifted off the record or turned off entirely, [[FridgeBrilliance simulating a leaky faucet in the kitchen in record-form]].

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* MostAnnoyingSound: An ''intentional'' application of this trope, on the long-play record for ''Atom Heart Mother''.''Music/AtomHeartMother''. The last song, ''Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast'', ends with the sound of dripping from a kitchen tap. On the LP, the groove was made in a loop at the end, so that the needle would continuously play through that dripping sound over and over again until manually lifted off the record or turned off entirely, [[FridgeBrilliance simulating a leaky faucet in the kitchen in record-form]].



* SophomoreSlump: ''A Saucerful of Secrets'' is typically held in much lower regard than ''The Piper at the Gates of Dawn'', partially [[TheBandMinusTheFace due to the departure of Syd Barrett]].

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* SophomoreSlump: ''A Saucerful of Secrets'' ''Music/ASaucerfulOfSecrets'' is typically held in much lower regard than ''The Piper at the Gates of Dawn'', ''Music/ThePiperAtTheGatesOfDawn'', partially [[TheBandMinusTheFace due to the departure of Syd Barrett]].



* TheyJustDidntCare: The American version of ''A Nice Pair'', a compilation of the band's first two albums, substituted the live version of "Astronomy Domine" for the studio version for some reason.

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* TheyJustDidntCare: The American version of ''A Nice Pair'', a compilation of the band's first two albums, substituted the a live version of "Astronomy Domine" for the studio version for some reason.



* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: The studio part of ''Ummagumma'', with the exception of "Grantchester Meadows."

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* TrueArtIsIncomprehensible: The studio part of ''Ummagumma'', with the exception of "Grantchester Meadows."Meadows".



** Like a lot of classic rock bands, including Music/LedZeppelin, critics hated them in TheSeventies but proclaim the band as geniuses today.

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** Like a lot of classic rock bands, including Music/LedZeppelin, critics hated ''''HATED''''' them in TheSeventies but proclaim the band as geniuses today.



** The post-Waters albums, ''A Momentary Lapse of Reason'' and ''The Division Bell'' got a lot of mixed reviews from fans and critics alike and Roger Waters absolutely panned both albums when they came out. However today, both fans and critics now regard ''The Division Bell'' as one the Floyd's best and ''A Momentary Lapse of Reason'' has gained a lot of fans as well.

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** The post-Waters albums, ''A Momentary Lapse of Reason'' ''Music/AMomentaryLapseOfReason'' and ''The Division Bell'' ''Music/TheDivisionBell'' got a lot of mixed reviews from fans and critics alike and Roger Waters absolutely panned both albums when they came out. However today, both fans and critics now regard ''The Division Bell'' as one the Floyd's best and ''A Momentary Lapse of Reason'' has gained a lot of fans as well.



* YokoOhNo: Some fans and critics deride Gilmour's wife Polly Samson as this, as she has helped write lyrics for songs on ''The Division Bell'' and ''The Endless River''. While her lyrics are pretty trite in comparison to Waters', she personally influenced Gilmour to sober up from a difficult substance abuse problem which was caused by all the pressures he suffered from the mid/late 80s.
** Gilmour, who considers himself a sub-par lyricist without Samson, hired musician Anthony Moore to help assist with lyrics for '' A Momentary Lapse Of Reason''. And while he and Mason are loathe to admit it, they admit that Waters' penchant for lyrics was missed at the time.

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* YokoOhNo: Some fans and critics deride Gilmour's wife Polly Samson as this, as she has helped write lyrics for songs on ''The Division Bell'' and ''The Endless River''.''Music/TheEndlessRiver''. While her lyrics are pretty trite in comparison to Waters', she personally influenced Gilmour to sober up from a difficult substance abuse problem which was caused by all the pressures he suffered from the mid/late 80s.
** Gilmour, who considers himself a sub-par lyricist without Samson, hired musician Anthony Moore to help assist with lyrics for '' A Momentary Lapse Of of Reason''. And while he and Mason are loathe to admit it, they admit that Waters' penchant for lyrics was missed at the time.time.
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24th Apr '16 11:05:59 AM youngbond007
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** Roger Waters fans consider the Gilmour-led era from 1987 onward to be this.
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A lot of fans dislike Adrian Maben's addition of CGI imagery to his 2003 director's cut of ''Live at Pompeii''.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A lot of fans dislike Adrian Maben's addition of stock UsefulNotes/{{NASA}} CGI imagery footage to his 2003 director's cut of ''Live at Pompeii''.
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** Critics were not pleased that a The80s began with a ProgressiveRock band at #1.

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** Critics were not pleased that a The80s the 80s began with a ProgressiveRock band at #1.
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** Critics were not pleased that a The80s began with a ProgressiveRock band at #1.
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