History YMMV / PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyDualDestinies

29th Aug '17 1:12:49 PM TheMisterSonic
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* PlayerPunch: Oh boy, the last two cases was not kind to a lot of people. [[spoiler: First of all, Apollo decided to leave the office to work by himself in order to find out who really killed his friend. Second of all, Athena managed to be accused of murdering Clay after the BigBad made everybody believe her "fingerprints" were found on the lighter. Third of all, Trucy got kidnapped by Aura Blackwell as an attempt to redo Simon's trial. Fourth of all, Athena was accused of murdering her mother and almost everybody including Athena believed that. Fifth of all, Bobby Fulbright ended up being DeadAllAlong as the BigBad killed him to do a DeadPersonImpersonation on him.]]

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* PlayerPunch: Oh boy, the last two cases was not kind to a lot of people. [[spoiler: First of all, Apollo decided to leave the office to work by himself in order to find out who really killed his friend. Second of all, Athena managed to be accused of murdering Clay after the BigBad made everybody believe her "fingerprints" were found on the lighter. Third of all, Trucy got kidnapped by Aura Blackwell Blackquill as an attempt to redo Simon's trial. Fourth of all, Athena was accused of murdering her mother and almost everybody including Athena believed that. Fifth of all, Bobby Fulbright ended up being DeadAllAlong as the BigBad killed him to do a DeadPersonImpersonation on him.]]
3rd Aug '17 1:46:27 PM Gosicrystal
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** In Turnabout Reclaimed, the "Special Episode", [[spoiler: Marlon Rimes's "flip-flop" testimony. It's far enough from English that it's basically unintelligible [[note]]To elaborate, it's LeetLingo, [[TalkLikeAPirate pirate speak]] and [[JiveTurkey over-the-top rapping lingo]] blended together into a mix that's nigh unreadable[[/note]], it suffers from all-caps syndrome, and it takes two or three steps to break.]] While it's extremely straightforward to work out which piece of evidence to present, it's borderline impossible to work out which ''statement'' to present it on. [[spoiler:The trick is to press and see what he talks about during that pressing, not what he raps about in the main statement. It's the first statement that you need to present it on]].
** While not as bad, Means's first testimony in Case 3 can be pretty annoying, since the correct statement to present evidence, is a blink and you'll miss it one.
** [[spoiler: Simon's]] testimony during the final case. Which requires you to use both the Mood Matrix and present evidence, something that hasn't been done together before this point. You have to be careful though: mess up too many times, [[spoiler:and Blackquill will not only get convicted, [[ItsAWonderfulFailure but he will die]] (you heard right: '''''die!''''') [[ItsAWonderfulFailure at the hands of the state]]!]]

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** In Turnabout Reclaimed, "Turnabout Reclaimed", the "Special Episode", [[spoiler: Marlon Rimes's "flip-flop" testimony. It's far enough from English that it's basically unintelligible [[note]]To elaborate, it's LeetLingo, [[TalkLikeAPirate pirate speak]] and [[JiveTurkey over-the-top rapping lingo]] blended together into a mix that's nigh unreadable[[/note]], it suffers from all-caps syndrome, and it takes two or three steps to break.]] While it's extremely straightforward to work out which piece of evidence to present, it's borderline impossible to work out which ''statement'' to present it on. [[spoiler:The trick is to press and see what he talks about during that pressing, not what he raps about in the main statement. It's the first statement that you need to present it on]].
** While not as bad, Means's first testimony in Case 3 can be pretty annoying, since the correct statement to present evidence, evidence is a blink and you'll miss it blink-and-you'll-miss-it one.
** [[spoiler: Simon's]] Simon]]'s testimony during the final case. Which It requires you to use both the Mood Matrix and present evidence, something that hasn't been done together before this point. You have to be careful careful, though: mess up too many times, [[spoiler:and Blackquill will not only get convicted, [[ItsAWonderfulFailure but he will die]] (you heard right: '''''die!''''') [[ItsAWonderfulFailure at the hands of the state]]!]]
1st Aug '17 6:11:00 PM Peridonyx
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [[spoiler:Aura Blackquill]] in one EarnYourBadEnding. [[spoiler:Sure, it sucks that her innocent brother gets executed after all; but given the heavy implication that she proceeds to invoke RevengeByProxy upon her equally innocent hostages (including Trucy, the adopted daughter of the guy fighting tooth-and-nail to save said brother), quite a few fans lost any remaining sympathy for her.]]
10th Jul '17 10:19:34 AM Gosicrystal
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** Sasha constantly saying that Orla, a whale, would never hurt or kill anybody is a bit hard to hear if you've seen ''Film/{{Blackfish}}''.
*** On that note, there's also this line, which also becomes harsher if you've seen the movie:

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** Sasha constantly saying that Orla, a whale, would never hurt or kill anybody is a bit hard to hear if you've seen ''Film/{{Blackfish}}''. \n*** On that note, there's There's also this line, which also becomes harsher if you've seen the movie:



* IKnewIt: Many people have predicted that [[spoiler: Blackquill would end up being innocent of the crime he's serving time for]].
7th Jul '17 9:59:04 PM PeaceAndLove
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*** On that note, there's also this line, which also becomes harsher if you've seen the movie:
--->'''Phoenix:''' [Orcas] don't...''eat'' people, do they?
7th Jul '17 9:54:16 PM PeaceAndLove
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* HarsherInHindsight: Let's face it. As noted above, a lot of things related to [[spoiler: Bobby Fulbright became a lot more harsher after TheReveal]].

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* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Let's face it. As noted above, a lot of things related to [[spoiler: Bobby Fulbright became a lot more harsher after TheReveal]].TheReveal]].
** Sasha constantly saying that Orla, a whale, would never hurt or kill anybody is a bit hard to hear if you've seen ''Film/{{Blackfish}}''.
6th Jul '17 2:41:50 PM Gosicrystal
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** In the same case, while Norma [=DePlume=] and Athena are discussing the fact that the orca song Norma heard, and the song the orca does sing, are different. [[spoiler: It alludes to the fact that there are two orcas]], but the discussion culminates in the two of them having an FantasySequence of themselves singing the songs they know.

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** In the same case, while Norma [=DePlume=] and Athena are discussing the fact that the orca song Norma heard, and the song the orca does sing, are different. [[spoiler: It alludes to the fact that there are two orcas]], but the discussion culminates in the two of them having an a FantasySequence of themselves singing the songs they know.
6th Jul '17 2:29:09 PM Gosicrystal
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** Some of the fandom interpret Simon Blackquill's admiration for Japanese culture, despite having (at least in the English version) ostensibly no Japanese heritage, as a sign that he's a [[OccidentalOtaku weeaboo]].
** [[spoiler: Also the revelation that his under-eye streaks came from crying a lot in prison]] have given birth to the theory that Simon is secretly a crybaby.

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** Some of the fandom interpret Simon Blackquill's admiration for Japanese culture, despite having (at least in the English version) ostensibly no Japanese heritage, as a sign that he's a [[OccidentalOtaku weeaboo]].
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weeaboo]]. Also the [[spoiler:the revelation that his under-eye streaks came from crying a lot in prison]] have has given birth to the theory that Simon is secretly a crybaby.
29th Jun '17 8:49:49 PM infernape612
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** The reveal that [[spoiler:Robin Newman is a WholesomeCrossdresser]] in Case 3 provoked the usual reactions from the usual suspects, as is often the case with [[ValuesDissonance this sort of thing]]. Just go to Tumblr, look up the [[spoiler:"Robin Newman"]] tag, and take a drink for every time someone asserts either [[spoiler:that Robin is a trans man or just being made to present as male a la [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Bridget]].]].

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** The reveal that [[spoiler:Robin Newman is a WholesomeCrossdresser]] in Case 3 provoked the usual reactions from the usual suspects, as is often the case with [[ValuesDissonance this sort of thing]]. Just go to Tumblr, look up the [[spoiler:"Robin Newman"]] tag, and take a drink for every time someone asserts either [[spoiler:that Robin is a trans man or just being made to present as male a la [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Bridget]].]].Bridget]]]].
20th Apr '17 11:41:17 AM Angeldeb82
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** "Turnabout Reclaimed", the DLC case, is considered by many to be ''Justice For All''[='s=] "[[ScrappyLevel Turnabout Big Top]]" done right, because it also features the interesting elements of that case, namely [[spoiler:the circumstances and nature of the real culprit]], but with much more likable other characters. Also, the notion of defending a killer whale in court [[spoiler:for the first half of the case]] is considered by many to be absolutely hilarious.

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** "Turnabout Reclaimed", the DLC case, is considered by many to be ''Justice For All''[='s=] "[[ScrappyLevel "[[ThatOneLevel Turnabout Big Top]]" done right, because it also features the interesting elements of that case, namely [[spoiler:the circumstances and nature of the real culprit]], but with much more likable other characters. Also, the notion of defending a killer whale in court [[spoiler:for the first half of the case]] is considered by many to be absolutely hilarious.



** In the DLC case, Phoenix brings his client, an ''orca'' to the stand. He then proceeds to cross examine it. Said cross examination is ''completely'' meaningless as he already had the evidence and information he needed to go forward. But it was a CrowningMomentOfFunny, and a nice CallBack to the parrot cross-examination from the first game (that the Judge even alludes to).

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** In the DLC case, Phoenix brings his client, an ''orca'' to the stand. He then proceeds to cross examine it. Said cross examination is ''completely'' meaningless as he already had the evidence and information he needed to go forward. But it was a CrowningMomentOfFunny, SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}}, and a nice CallBack to the parrot cross-examination from the first game (that the Judge even alludes to).



** [[{{Meido}} Jinxie Tenma]] is another beloved character, partly because she's quite funny, partly because she's Trucy's friend, but mostly because she's just plain ''[[{{Moe}} adorable]]''. There was much rejoicing when she made a surprise re-appearance in ''[[PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', in the form of a note addressed to Trucy and Apollo.

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** [[{{Meido}} Jinxie Tenma]] is another beloved character, partly because she's quite funny, partly because she's Trucy's friend, but mostly because she's just plain ''[[{{Moe}} adorable]]''. There was much rejoicing when she made a surprise re-appearance in ''[[PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'', in the form of a note addressed to Trucy and Apollo.



* HarsherInHindsight: Let's face it. As noted above, a lot of things related to [[spoiler: Bobby Fulbright became a lot more harsher after TheReveal.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: Let's face it. As noted above, a lot of things related to [[spoiler: Bobby Fulbright became a lot more harsher after TheReveal.]]TheReveal]].
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