History YMMV / PhoenixWrightAceAttorney

12th Aug '17 1:14:08 PM NNinja
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* NeverLiveItDown: Iris [[spoiler: helping Dahlia with recovering necklace from Phoenix.]] Acording to some of her haters this one incident makes her ExtremeDoormat who could never stand up to her sister, never mind that she did it primarily to [[spoiler: make sure she won't kill him]], never mind that she spends majority of her time trying to stop her from commiting other crimes. She helped her once so she's a doormat.
8th Aug '17 1:29:23 PM Siggu
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** The final case of ''Trials and Tribulations'' has a critical omission in the Spanish version. In one part of [[spoiler:Dahlia]]'s testimony, you have to point out the contradiction that the victim was not stabbed from the front, by using the autopsy report... except, in the Spanish translation, the report does not mention that the victim was stabbed in the back, leaving the player with no way except guides or pure chance to realize how to object that statement.

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** The final case of ''Trials and Tribulations'' has a critical omission in the Spanish version. In one part of [[spoiler:Dahlia]]'s testimony, you have to point out the contradiction that the victim was not stabbed from the front, by using the autopsy report... except, in the Spanish translation, the report does not mention that the victim was stabbed in the back, leaving the player with no way except guides or pure chance to realize how to object that statement. And to confirm it is indeed a typo, when Phoenix explains the contradiction, he says the autopsy report states that the victim was stabbed in the back, when it actually doesn't.
2nd Aug '17 12:23:31 AM InTheGallbladder
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** In case 5, one of the crucial pieces of evidence is a monochrome surveillance video thought to show the victim knocking out a witness. However, the whole court's attention is on the animatronic mascot in the room--its jerky motions leave them all deeply perturbed. Nine years later (and a few months before the [=eShop=] ports), players may find themselves [[VideoGame/FiveNightsAtFreddys capable of sympathizing]]...
17th Jul '17 5:11:38 AM OlfinBedwere
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* ThatOneLevel: "Turnabout Big Top" is considered by some to be the worst case in the entire Phoenix trilogy. It has a weird cast of unhelpful and rude circus folk, cross-examinations that dole out hefty punishments, and very little connection to the Fey plotline and [[spoiler:Edgeworth's return]]. Many consider Moe's cross-examination in 2-3 to be a real pain in the ass, since one wrong press will get '''you''' penalized, and culminates with his last testimony, in which any pressing will cause you to '''instantly lose'''. At least the Judge gives you some warning. Furthermore, on the second trial of that case, you have to do a big leap of logic and figure out that [[spoiler:Russell Berry's cape got attached to the Max bust, seemingly ignoring physics]].

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"Turnabout Big Top" is considered by some to be the worst case in the entire Phoenix trilogy.trilogy, and arguably even the entire ''Ace Attorney'' series. It has a weird cast of unhelpful and rude circus folk, cross-examinations that dole out hefty punishments, and very little connection to the Fey plotline and [[spoiler:Edgeworth's return]]. Many consider Moe's cross-examination in 2-3 to be a real pain in the ass, since one wrong press will get '''you''' penalized, and culminates with his last testimony, in which any pressing will cause you to '''instantly lose'''. At While the game at least has the Judge gives try to warn you, he does so in such a vague manner that you some warning. might not even notice it at all, or think he's just talking a standard 20% penalty (which you could get for needlessly pressing back in 1-4) instead of a 100% penalty. Furthermore, on the second trial of that case, you have to do a big leap of logic and figure out that [[spoiler:Russell Berry's cape got attached to the Max bust, seemingly ignoring physics]].physics]].
** While "Farewell, My Turnabout" is considered one of the best cases -- possibly even ''the'' best -- in the whole ''Ace Attorney'' franchise, the penalties for messing up can be absolutely brutal. In most of the game's other cases penalties are usually the same 20% that you get for presenting incorrect evidence while cross-examining. Here they're more on the order of 30-50%, including two outright instances of a 100% penalty, and one indirect example at the very end of the case. Add to that the trial days being very long, the game doing away with health refills during recesses, and the possibility of screwing up the Psyche-Lock segments and going into the trial days with less than 100% health, and you'll feel each and every mistake much harder.
17th Jul '17 2:17:33 AM Synchronicity
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* CounterpartComparison: In the fandom, Mia has been compared to [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Mami Tomoe]]. [[http://incorrectaceattorney.tumblr.com/post/154305981380/mia-and-mami-would-be-almost-the-same-person For your consideration]].
29th Jun '17 8:14:30 PM infernape612
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** Luke Atmey is this to a certain portion of the Japanese fandom, to the point where there are ''entire fansites'' dedicated to him. In all fairness, though, his Japanese name means something along the lines of "only wants to be loved," and in the Japanese version, it's suggested he [[spoiler:killed Kane Bullard out of self defense, not just desperation.]].

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** Luke Atmey is this to a certain portion of the Japanese fandom, to the point where there are ''entire fansites'' dedicated to him. In all fairness, though, his Japanese name means something along the lines of "only wants to be loved," and in the Japanese version, it's suggested he [[spoiler:killed Kane Bullard out of self defense, not just desperation.]].desperation]].
30th May '17 11:35:57 PM LaptopGuy
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** Regina Berry. One one hand, between her appearance, personality, and role as the heart of the third case, many fans will concede that it's nearly impossible not to like her. However, many other characters find her naivety unbearable and hold her responsible for putting Bat into a coma and causing Acro' paralysis, and not showing any sympathy over them. Defenders, however, will say that her lack of remorse for the accident is because she did not understand the concept of death, rather than being a heartless monster. And others just hate her just because they hate the case she came from. When the Berry Big Circus returned in the second ''Investigations'' game, Regina was the only character from 2-3 (unless you count Money) to return.

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** Regina Berry. One one hand, between her appearance, personality, and role as the heart of the third case, many fans will concede that it's nearly impossible not to like her. However, many other characters fans find her naivety unbearable and hold her responsible for putting Bat into a coma and causing Acro' Acro's paralysis, and not showing any sympathy over them. Defenders, however, will say that her lack of remorse for the accident is because she did not understand the concept of death, rather than being a heartless monster. And others just hate her just because they hate the case she came from. When the Berry Big Circus returned in the second ''Investigations'' game, Regina was the only character from 2-3 (unless you count Money) to return.



* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: Admit it, [[spoiler: you smiled VERY evilly after taking down Matt Engarde once and for all]]. Doubly so if [[spoiler: it's chosen to pronounce him Not Guilty afterwards, knowing that he'd be hunted down by a professional assassin the minute he were to step out of the courthouse]]. [[spoiler: Vengeance against a Defense Attorney's client]] never felt soo satisfying.
* VindicatedByHistory: For a long time this was seen as the worst game in the whole ''Ace Attorney'' franchise, for lacking the tight storyline of the first or third games, or the novelty factor of ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' or the first ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'' game. Since then, opinions toward it have warmed considerably, to the point where it's actually now considered one of the better games in the series, only really let down by a poor third case and Franziska being a rather one-note adversary. Even the game's SequelDifficultySpike is looked on more favorably when compared to some of the newer entries, which have been criticised for being too easy.

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* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: Admit it, [[spoiler: you smiled VERY evilly after taking down Matt Engarde once and for all]]. Doubly so if [[spoiler: it's chosen to pronounce him Not Guilty afterwards, knowing that he'd be hunted down by a professional assassin the minute he were to step out of the courthouse]]. [[spoiler: Vengeance against a Defense Attorney's client]] never felt soo so satisfying.
* VindicatedByHistory: For a long time this was was, aside from the final case, seen as the worst game in the whole ''Ace Attorney'' franchise, for lacking the tight storyline of the first or third games, or the novelty factor of ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' or the first ''VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations'' game. Since then, opinions toward it have warmed considerably, to the point where it's actually now considered one of the better games in the series, only really let down by a poor third case and Franziska being a rather one-note adversary. Even the game's SequelDifficultySpike is looked on more favorably when compared to some of the newer entries, which have been criticised for being too easy.
26th May '17 4:07:36 AM NNinja
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** During the first case Dahlia says "we were so lovey-dovey that we literally made people sick. I think it was jelousy". Given the reveal that [[spoiler: Phoenix was dating Iris, not Dahlia, at the time, it's very likely that Dahlia was actually refering to herself reacting to these two. Does that mean she actually envied her sister having happy, healthy relationship instead of one full of lies and manipulations she had with Terry Fawles and Doug Swallow?]]
18th May '17 5:05:12 PM rjd1922
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** Due to a typo in case 3-2, Phoenix says "Your Honor. When you were ''in'' a child..."
8th May '17 12:35:07 PM NNinja
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* JerkassWoobie:
** Dahlia in Iris's perspective, although most likely not the player's, and definitely not the other characters'. Both sisters were separated from their mother and received no love from their father, and while Iris had a mother figure in Sister Bikini, Dahlia had no one. Iris realizes Dahlia has done many unforgivable things, but still cares for her and wants to help her because of what she's been through (including recovering the necklace so she won't commit any more crimes).
** [[spoiler: Godot could be considered as one, but only to Phoenix, whom he refused to acknowledge for the greater part of the game. He seems to be significantly less of a jerk to everyone else.]]

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* JerkassWoobie:
** Dahlia in Iris's perspective, although most likely not the player's, and definitely not the other characters'. Both sisters were separated from their mother and received no love from their father, and while Iris had a mother figure in Sister Bikini, Dahlia had no one. Iris realizes Dahlia has done many unforgivable things, but still cares for her and wants to help her because of what she's been through (including recovering the necklace so she won't commit any more crimes).
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JerkassWoobie: [[spoiler: Godot could be considered as one, but only to Phoenix, whom he refused to acknowledge for the greater part of the game. He seems to be significantly less of a jerk to everyone else.]]
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