History YMMV / Peanuts

22nd Feb '17 1:20:06 PM Mdumas43073
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* AdaptationDisplacement: While the animated TV specials are arguably better known than the comic strip among the general public, there is a rather vocal section of fans who take their cues from Schulz as far as treating only the strips as canon and ignoring ''anything'' from animation, even if it's minor stuff like the Super Bowl special giving Marcie a last name (which was never stated in the strips).

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* AdaptationDisplacement: Semi-averted. While the animated TV specials are arguably better known than the comic strip among the general public, there is a rather vocal section of fans who take their cues from Schulz as far as treating only the strips as canon and ignoring ''anything'' from animation, even if it's minor stuff like the Super Bowl special giving Marcie a last name (which was never stated in the strips).
22nd Feb '17 1:19:47 PM Mdumas43073
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* AdaptationDisplacement: While the animated TV specials are arguably better known than the comic strip among the general public, there is a rather vocal section of fans who take their cues from Schulz as far as treating only the strips as canon and ignoring ''anything'' from animation , even if it's minor stuff like the Super Bowl special giving Marcie a last name (which was never stated in the strips).

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* AdaptationDisplacement: While the animated TV specials are arguably better known than the comic strip among the general public, there is a rather vocal section of fans who take their cues from Schulz as far as treating only the strips as canon and ignoring ''anything'' from animation , animation, even if it's minor stuff like the Super Bowl special giving Marcie a last name (which was never stated in the strips).
22nd Feb '17 1:19:37 PM Mdumas43073
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* AdaptationDisplacement: While the TV specials are generally better known than the comic strips, there are a rather vocal section of fans who take their cues from Schulz as far as treating only the strips as canon and ignoring ''anything'' from cartoons, even if it's minor stuff like the Super Bowl special giving Marcie a last name (which was never stated in the strips).

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* AdaptationDisplacement: While the animated TV specials are generally arguably better known than the comic strips, strip among the general public, there are is a rather vocal section of fans who take their cues from Schulz as far as treating only the strips as canon and ignoring ''anything'' from cartoons, animation , even if it's minor stuff like the Super Bowl special giving Marcie a last name (which was never stated in the strips).
2nd Feb '17 4:32:49 PM trulymadmoves
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** In a 1976 strip, Linus comments that Music/BobDylan is 35 years old, which Charlie Brown calls the most depressing thing he's ever heard. Naturally, that joke has spent 40 years becoming increasingly funny and [[HarsherInHindsight increasingly depressing]] at the same time as TimeMarchesOn and Dylan continues to get older.
1st Feb '17 5:03:02 PM kingvideogames
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** A Halloween figure rising out of the ground to fly around the world giving presents to everyone? [[WesternAnimation/ANightmareBeforeChristmas If we change his title from "Great Pumpkin" to "Pumpkin King"...]]

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** A Halloween figure rising out of the ground to fly around the world giving presents to everyone? [[WesternAnimation/ANightmareBeforeChristmas [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas If we change his title from "Great Pumpkin" to "Pumpkin King"...]]
1st Feb '17 5:02:38 PM kingvideogames
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** A Halloween figure rising out of the ground to fly around the world giving presents to everyone? [[WesternAnimation/ANightmareBeforeChristmas If we change his title from "Great Pumpkin" to "Pumpkin King"...]]
23rd Jan '17 1:06:11 AM mlsmithca
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* TearJerker:
** ''WesternAnimation/SnoopyComeHome'' is the most depressing and gut-wrenching thing the franchise has ever produced.
** This strip from 1972 is the most heartbreaking thing [[http://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1972/06/22 ever]] - Peppermint Patty has met the Little Red-Haired Girl for the first time and says she understands what Charlie Brown sees in her, and breaks down crying at the thought that she can never compete with her. The two strips after it though, in which Linus cheers her up by assuring her that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, are [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments downright adorable]], unless you are a Linus/Sally shipper.
** The final strip, which doubles as a heartwarming moment. Over a collage of panels from past strips as Snoopy sits at his typewriter in the foreground, Charles Schulz announces his medically-motivated retirement, and says that because his family don't want someone else to continue the strip, no further strips will be produced after he retires. After thanking his readers for almost the past half-century, he concludes by saying, "Charlie Brown, Snoopy, Linus, Lucy... how can I ever forget them..." How can any of us ever forget them, Sparky...
** ''WesternAnimation/WhyCharlieBrownWhy''
** While not as soul-crushing as ''Snoopy Come Home'', ''WesternAnimation/ABoyNamedCharlieBrown'' has a pretty melancholic feel to the whole thing. The basic plot is Charlie Brown dealing with the unrelenting misery and failure that is his life, getting a HopeSpot when he gets a chance at a regional spelling bee, and returning in disgrace after he loses.
21st Jan '17 11:07:42 PM mlsmithca
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** The animated specials, particularly the very early ones, have a great deal of this.

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** The animated specials, particularly the very early ones, have a great deal of this. The animation is crude and often off model, and some of the child actors, particularly very young ones like Kathy Steinberg (the original Sally) and [[CrossDressingVoices Jimmy Ahrens (the original Marcie)]], give very awkward readings of their lines (which are often audibly spliced together from multiple takes), but the art and the vocal performances are part of what makes the stories and especially the characters so endearing in many viewers' eyes.
21st Jan '17 10:47:28 PM mlsmithca
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* RetroactiveRecognition: In ''It's Flashbeagle, Charlie Brown'' and ''Snoopy's Getting Married, Charlie Brown'', Sally was voiced by Stacy Ferguson, now better known as Music/TheBlackEyedPeas lead singer/solo artist Fergie. She even gets to show off her singing voice in ''Snoopy's Getting Married''.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: In ''It's Flashbeagle, Charlie Brown'' and Brown'', ''Snoopy's Getting Married, Charlie Brown'', and Series 2 of ''The Charlie Brown and Snoopy Show'', Sally was voiced by Stacy Ferguson, now better known as Music/TheBlackEyedPeas lead singer/solo artist Fergie. She even gets to show off her singing voice in ''Snoopy's Getting Married''.



* ValuesDissonance: One strip from the mid-1950s PlayedForLaughs the fact that Linus had mistaken his first snowfall for the fallout from a nuclear war.
** Might count as an inversion, since, if anything, [[SeriousBusiness nuclear winter was even]] ''[[SeriousBusiness less]]'' [[SeriousBusiness funny during the Cold War]]. Or perhaps just BlackComedy.

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* ValuesDissonance: One strip from the mid-1950s PlayedForLaughs the fact that Linus had mistaken his first snowfall for the fallout from a nuclear war.
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war. Might count as an inversion, since, if anything, [[SeriousBusiness nuclear winter was even]] ''[[SeriousBusiness less]]'' [[SeriousBusiness funny during the Cold War]]. Or perhaps just BlackComedy.
21st Jan '17 2:19:14 PM mlsmithca
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* GeniusBonus: Although Schulz' ability to read music was limited, he meticulously copied passages from various piano pieces for strips featuring Schroeder at the piano (mostly [[Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven]] piano sonatas, but works by Haydn, Chopin, and Rachmaninoff[[note]] The very first strip featuring Schroeder at the piano from 24 September 1951 shows him playing not Beethoven, but Rachmaninoff - specifically, Measure 20 of the Prelude in G minor, Op.23 No.5.[[/note]] among others also showed up), and his pianistic "career" includes some bonuses for fans of classical music.

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* GeniusBonus: Although Schulz' ability to read music was limited, he meticulously copied passages from various piano pieces for strips featuring Schroeder at the piano (mostly [[Creator/LudwigVanBeethoven Beethoven]] piano sonatas, but works by Haydn, Clementi, Chopin, and Rachmaninoff[[note]] The very first strip featuring Schroeder at the piano from 24 September 1951 shows him playing not Beethoven, but Rachmaninoff - specifically, Measure 20 of the Prelude in G minor, Op.23 No.5.[[/note]] among others also showed up), and his pianistic "career" includes some bonuses for fans of classical music.



* TearJerker: ''WesternAnimation/SnoopyComeHome'' is the most depressing and gut-wrenching thing the franchise has ever produced.
** This strip from 1972 is the most heartbreaking thing [[http://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1972/06/22 ever]].
*** The two strips after it though, are [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments downright adorable]], unless you are a Linus/Sally shipper.
*** The final strip, which doubles as a heartwarming moment.

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* TearJerker: TearJerker:
**
''WesternAnimation/SnoopyComeHome'' is the most depressing and gut-wrenching thing the franchise has ever produced.
** This strip from 1972 is the most heartbreaking thing [[http://www.gocomics.com/peanuts/1972/06/22 ever]].
***
ever]] - Peppermint Patty has met the Little Red-Haired Girl for the first time and says she understands what Charlie Brown sees in her, and breaks down crying at the thought that she can never compete with her. The two strips after it though, in which Linus cheers her up by assuring her that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, are [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments downright adorable]], unless you are a Linus/Sally shipper.
*** ** The final strip, which doubles as a heartwarming moment.moment. Over a collage of panels from past strips as Snoopy sits at his typewriter in the foreground, Charles Schulz announces his medically-motivated retirement, and says that because his family don't want someone else to continue the strip, no further strips will be produced after he retires. After thanking his readers for almost the past half-century, he concludes by saying, "Charlie Brown, Snoopy, Linus, Lucy... how can I ever forget them..." How can any of us ever forget them, Sparky...



* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Charlie Brown

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* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Charlie BrownBrown is treated like dirt by almost everyone, from major to one-shot characters - even his friends are not above tearing into him for his perceived failings - yet he remains beloved by many readers, partly because of his perennial underdog status and the fact that it never stops him from trying.



* ValuesResonance: ''A Charlie Brown Christmas''[='=] denouncement of commercialism (which carries over into ''A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving'' and ''It's the Easter Beagle, Charlie Brown'' as well) and presentation of the TrueMeaningOfChristmas.
** Which makes later handling of the show even more ironic; due to the fact that networks generally push in more and more commercials into episodes, for several years the special aired heavily truncated. Fan backlash ultimately made them back away from it, giving the special a full hour and tossing in a short from a Christmas anthology special to pad things out so they can air it uncut. For course, that does mean that ABC gets to have a reliably high rated special they can rerun in an hour timeslot

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* ValuesResonance: ValuesResonance:
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''A Charlie Brown Christmas''[='=] denouncement of commercialism (which carries over into ''A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving'' and ''It's the Easter Beagle, Charlie Brown'' as well) and presentation of the TrueMeaningOfChristmas.
**
TrueMeaningOfChristmas. Which makes later handling of the show even more ironic; due to the fact that networks generally push in more and more commercials into episodes, for several years the special aired heavily truncated. Fan backlash ultimately made them back away from it, giving the special a full hour and tossing in a short from a Christmas anthology special to pad things out so they can air it uncut. For Of course, that does mean that ABC gets to have a reliably high rated special they can rerun in an hour timeslottimeslot.



** The bullying can fall into this and Dissonance as well - the characters do bully each other, and it's PlayedForLaughs, but many of the actual bullying rarely veers into TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior, and when it does, (Such as Lucy throwing Shroeder's piano to the kite-eating tree) it's not shrugged off.

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** The bullying can fall into this and Dissonance as well - the characters do bully each other, and it's PlayedForLaughs, but many of the actual bullying rarely veers into TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior, and when it does, (Such does (such as Lucy throwing Shroeder's piano to the kite-eating tree) tree), it's not shrugged off.



* [[WereStillRelevantDammit We're Still Relevant, Dangit]]: ''Flashbeagle''.
** In one of the last daily strips, Sally is writing a letter to Literature/HarryPotter. Not as obvious as the previous trope, but this was written around the time the books were becoming popular.
*** ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' also got a ShoutOut in that last year.

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* [[WereStillRelevantDammit We're Still Relevant, Dangit]]: ''Flashbeagle''.
WereStillRelevantDammit:
** ''It's Flashbeagle, Charlie Brown'' is positively jarring in how closely tied it is to the mid-1980s, with its biggest set piece being Snoopy, clad in a torn sweater, sweatband, and leg warmers (a wardrobe he chose after trying on and then rejecting a white disco suit), going to a dance club and showing off moves that pay clear homage to ''Film/{{Flashdance}}'' while Franklin gives a display of breakdancing.
** In one of the last daily strips, Sally is writing a letter to Literature/HarryPotter. Not as obvious as the previous trope, Flashbeagle, but this was written around the time the books were becoming popular.
*** ** ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' also got a ShoutOut in that last year.



** She then blamed Snoopy, and looked for him in order to beat him up, but forgave him when he saved her from the cat who lived next door to Charlie Brown (which she had mistaken for Snoopy in a cat suit).
** The unseen adult in charge of the obedience school apparently is a idiot for thinking there's nothing wrong with training a human and graduating her as if she's a dog.
** Let's not forget that Patty for the longest time thought Snoopy was a "funny-looking kid with a big nose." It was not until a series of strips in 1974, when Patty announced she was quitting school and moving into "Chuck's guest cottage", that an irate Marcie finally pointed out the truth to her.
** And a series of strips from 1982 or so when Patty decided to transfer to a school for gifted children because she thought it meant they would give her presents.

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** She then blamed Snoopy, and looked for him in order to beat him up, but forgave him when he saved her from the cat who lived next door to Charlie Brown (which she had mistaken for Snoopy in a cat suit).
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suit). The unseen adult in charge of the obedience school apparently is a also an idiot for thinking there's nothing wrong with training a human and graduating her as if she's a dog.
** Let's not forget that Patty for the longest time thought Snoopy was a "funny-looking kid with a big nose." It was not until a series of strips in 1974, when Patty announced she was quitting school and moving into "Chuck's guest cottage", that an irate Marcie finally pointed out the truth to her.
** And In a series of strips from 1982 or so when so, Patty decided to transfer to a school for gifted children because she thought it meant they would give her presents.
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