History YMMV / PaperMario

25th Jun '16 2:12:39 PM PrincessGwen
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** ''Sticker Star'' 's lack of an overall plot more complex than Bowser kidnapping Peach was also criticised. This plot showed up in the original ''Paper Mario'' as well but it had a lot better characterisation when compared to ''Sticker Star'' which made up for it. Going back to an ExcusePlot after the detailed plots of ''The Thousand Year Door'' and ''Super Paper Mario'' did not help either.

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** ''Sticker Star'' 's lack of an overall plot more complex than Bowser kidnapping Peach was also criticised. criticized. This plot showed up in the original ''Paper Mario'' as well but it had a lot better characterisation characterization when compared to ''Sticker Star'' which made up for it. Going back to an ExcusePlot after the detailed plots of ''The Thousand Year Door'' and ''Super Paper Mario'' did not help either.



* VindicatedByHistory: ''Super Paper Mario'' got a lot more respect after ''Sticker Star'' was released when people focussed on the detailed plot (especially compared to other Mario games) and better gameplay compared to ''Sticker Star''.

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* VindicatedByHistory: ''Super Paper Mario'' got a lot more respect after ''Sticker Star'' was released when people focussed focused on the detailed plot (especially compared to other Mario games) and better gameplay compared to ''Sticker Star''.
16th Jun '16 6:16:03 AM mario0987
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** ''Sticker Star'' 's lack of an overall plot more complex than Bowser kidnapping Peach was also criticised. This plot showed up in the original ''Paper Mario'' as well but it had a lot better characterisation when compared to ''Sticker Star'' which made up for it. Going back to an ExcusePlot after the detailed plots of ''The Thousand Year Door'' and ''Super Paper Mario'' did not help either.


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* VindicatedByHistory: ''Super Paper Mario'' got a lot more respect after ''Sticker Star'' was released when people focussed on the detailed plot (especially compared to other Mario games) and better gameplay compared to ''Sticker Star''.
15th Jun '16 6:05:08 PM Darthrai
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* FandomHeresy: In some circles, it's treated as a serious crime to like ''Sticker Star'' or what's been shown of ''Color Splash'', especially if one compares them favorably to SacredCow ''The Thousand-Year Door''.
12th May '16 9:46:11 AM Tavernier
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* SeasonalRot: The series is largely considered to have lost its way after the second game, leaping back and forth from idea to idea but not yet returning to the series' roots.
25th Apr '16 8:17:20 PM Ninplanet123
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Americans love ''Paper Mario''; in Japan, its country of origin, the series is not nearly as popular.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Americans and Europeans love ''Paper Mario''; in Japan, its country of origin, the series is not nearly as popular.
20th Apr '16 4:45:10 PM N8han11
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* ''YMMV/PaperMarioColorSplash''
13th Mar '16 1:06:01 PM Peridonyx
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** Dimentio [[spoiler:seemingly killing Mr. L/Luigi and, after that, the whole party. Later, he finally cements himself as the Big Bad by attempting to kill the already beaten Bleck.]]

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** Dimentio [[spoiler:seemingly killing Mr. L/Luigi and, after that, the whole party. Later, he finally cements himself as the Big Bad by attempting to kill the already beaten Bleck. But it's his final action that puts him about as far across this as possible -- just before he dies, he uses the last of his power to keep The Void going, which would take everyone else in existence down with him, solely because of EvilIsPetty against a small group of people for defeating him.]]
5th Mar '16 6:19:01 PM RaustBD
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* DorkAge: It's generally agreed that the subseries started going through one with ''Sticker Star'', which was a heavily controversial game for removing the story, exploration and RPG elements that made previous installments so beloved. With ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' mostly being held aloft by the gameplay and characterization approach of [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi its other constituent series]] while suffering from a few of the same problems as current ''Paper Mario'' games, and ''Color Splash'' being highly reminiscent of ''Sticker Star'' via first impressions, many fans agree that the dork age isn't ending any time soon. There are a few fans who believe that the dork age began with ''Super Paper Mario'', but [[VindicatedByHistory in hindsight]], it's seen as a far better game that mostly only suffers due to [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks its different gameplay]].

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* DorkAge: It's generally agreed that the subseries started going through one with ''Sticker Star'', which was a heavily controversial game for removing the story, exploration and RPG elements that made previous installments so beloved. With ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' mostly being held aloft by the gameplay and characterization approach of [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi its other constituent series]] while suffering from a few of the same problems as current ''Paper Mario'' games, and ''Color Splash'' being highly reminiscent of ''Sticker Star'' via first impressions, many fans agree that the dork age isn't ending any time soon. There are a few fans who believe that the dork age began with ''Super Paper Mario'', but [[VindicatedByHistory in hindsight]], it's seen as a far better game that is still quintessentially a Paper Mario game in terms of humor, charm and heart, and mostly only suffers due to [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks its different gameplay]].
4th Mar '16 9:28:15 AM Darthrai
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* DorkAge: It's generally agreed that the subseries started going through one with ''Sticker Star'', which was a heavily controversial game for removing the story, exploration and RPG elements that made previous installments so beloved. With ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' mostly being held aloft by the gameplay and characterization approach of [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi its other constituent series]] while suffering from a few of the same problems as current ''Paper Mario'' games, and ''Color Splash'' being highly reminiscent of ''Sticker Star'' via first impressions, many fans agree that the dork age isn't ending any time soon.

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* DorkAge: It's generally agreed that the subseries started going through one with ''Sticker Star'', which was a heavily controversial game for removing the story, exploration and RPG elements that made previous installments so beloved. With ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' mostly being held aloft by the gameplay and characterization approach of [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi its other constituent series]] while suffering from a few of the same problems as current ''Paper Mario'' games, and ''Color Splash'' being highly reminiscent of ''Sticker Star'' via first impressions, many fans agree that the dork age isn't ending any time soon. There are a few fans who believe that the dork age began with ''Super Paper Mario'', but [[VindicatedByHistory in hindsight]], it's seen as a far better game that mostly only suffers due to [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks its different gameplay]].
4th Mar '16 9:26:04 AM Darthrai
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* DorkAge: It's generally agreed that the subseries started going through one with ''Sticker Star'', which was a heavily controversial game for removing the story, exploration and RPG elements that made previous installments so beloved. With ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' mostly being held aloft by the gameplay and characterization approach of [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi its other constituent series]] while suffering from a few of the same problems and ''Color Splash'' being highly reminiscent of ''Sticker Star'' via first impressions, many fans agree that the dork age isn't ending any time soon.

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* DorkAge: It's generally agreed that the subseries started going through one with ''Sticker Star'', which was a heavily controversial game for removing the story, exploration and RPG elements that made previous installments so beloved. With ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiPaperJam'' mostly being held aloft by the gameplay and characterization approach of [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi its other constituent series]] while suffering from a few of the same problems as current ''Paper Mario'' games, and ''Color Splash'' being highly reminiscent of ''Sticker Star'' via first impressions, many fans agree that the dork age isn't ending any time soon.
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