History YMMV / PandoraHearts

30th Sep '17 8:54:42 AM bt8257
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** The series is not uncommonly referred to as "Paindora Hurts"[[labelnote:*]]or variations, e.g. "Pandora Hurts[=/=]Paindora Hearts"[[/labelnote]] by fans.
** The Will of the Abyss is frequently referred to as "Alyss" [[labelnote:*]]A portmanteu of Alice and Abyss[[/labelnote]].

to:

** The series is not uncommonly referred to as "Paindora Hurts"[[labelnote:*]]or Hurts"[[note]]or variations, e.g. "Pandora Hurts[=/=]Paindora Hearts"[[/labelnote]] Hearts"[[/note]] by fans.
** The Will of the Abyss is frequently referred to as "Alyss" [[labelnote:*]]A portmanteu [[note]]A portmanteau of Alice and Abyss[[/labelnote]].Abyss[[/note]].



* {{HSQ}}: Ever since Retrace 57, [[WhamEpisode chapters]] that invoke exponentially high levels of this have gotten much too common for the fandom to handle, but special mention goes to...

to:

* {{HSQ}}: HolyShitQuotient: Ever since Retrace 57, [[WhamEpisode chapters]] that invoke exponentially high levels of this have gotten much too common for the fandom to handle, but special mention goes to...
22nd Sep '17 7:45:29 PM CyokieRevott
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** The fandom is very divided between people who absolutely hate Levi and people who are okay with him (nobody seems to go past being "okay" with him, though). The reason for this is because of the ambiguous nature of his "experiment." Did he [[spoiler:rape Lacie,]] or did she [[spoiler:consent?]] Many people on the [[spoiler:"he raped her"]] side point out that she was definitely a child when he asked her if she'd be willing to participate in the experiment, but many who claim Levi didn't [[spoiler:rape Lacie]] point out that she only got [[spoiler:pregnant]] when she was an adult, implying Levi both waited for her to become [[spoiler:legal]] and waited to see if she would still [[spoiler:consent]] once she was an adult before actually doing the experiment. It's very confusing.
17th Aug '17 3:47:18 PM CyokieRevott
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** Oz x Alice was definitely one of these. The amount of supposed ShipTease even convinced a lot of fans who didn't like the ship that it was canon or going to be canon in the future. It never became canon, and WordofGod stated Oz and Alice were never romantically involved and never would be in an interview after the release of the last volume, as well as that Oz would have been much more likely to get together with Echo [[spoiler: if things had gone differently.]]

to:

** Oz x Alice was definitely one of these. The amount of supposed ShipTease even convinced a lot of fans who didn't like the ship that it was canon or going to be canon in the future. It never became canon, and WordofGod WordOfGod stated Oz and Alice were never romantically involved and never would be in an interview after the release of the last volume, as well as that Oz would have been much more likely to get together with Echo [[spoiler: if things had gone differently.]]
17th Aug '17 3:44:26 PM CyokieRevott
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Oz x Alice was definitely one of these. The amount of supposed ShipTease even convinced a lot of fans who didn't like the ship that it was canon or going to be canon in the future. It never became canon, and WordofGod stated Oz and Alice were never romantically involved and never would be in an interview after the release of the last volume, as well as that Oz would have been much more likely to get together with Echo [[spoiler: if things had gone differently.]]
* In a very mild and (possibly) nearly unnoticeable way, Fang x Lottie is one of these. It has actually been confirmed (albeit vaguely) one-sided since WordOfGod said she thought Fang had fallen "slightly in love with Lottie." However, mutually it never happened, not only because [[spoiler: Fang died]] but because Lottie is eternally in love with Oswald.

to:

* ** Oz x Alice was definitely one of these. The amount of supposed ShipTease even convinced a lot of fans who didn't like the ship that it was canon or going to be canon in the future. It never became canon, and WordofGod stated Oz and Alice were never romantically involved and never would be in an interview after the release of the last volume, as well as that Oz would have been much more likely to get together with Echo [[spoiler: if things had gone differently.]]
* *** In a very mild and (possibly) nearly unnoticeable way, Fang x Lottie is one of these. It has actually been confirmed (albeit vaguely) one-sided since WordOfGod said she thought Fang had fallen "slightly in love with Lottie." However, mutually it never happened, not only because [[spoiler: Fang died]] but because Lottie is eternally in love with Oswald.
17th Aug '17 3:44:05 PM CyokieRevott
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* FanPreferredCouple: Sharon is almost always paired up with Break, even though their relationship had always been portrayed as LikeBrotherAndSister. In fact, the finale shows that Sharon would eventually marry Reim, who himself is more likely to be paired up with [[DatingCatwoman Lily]].

to:

* FanPreferredCouple: Sharon is almost always paired up with Break, Break even though their relationship had always been portrayed as LikeBrotherAndSister. In fact, LikeBrotherAndSister, and also in spite of the finale shows fact that Jun Mochizuki seemed to repeatedly imply that Break was in love with Sharon's mother, Shelly. The epilogue, [[spoiler: which occurs two volumes after Break's death,]] reveals that Sharon ends up [[spoiler: marrying Reim.]] Readers were notably confused, although no more due to Sharon and Break being the FanPreferredCouple than the fact that Sharon and [[spoiler: Reim]] barely interacted throughout the manga and had no important moments together.
* Oz x Alice was definitely one of these. The amount of supposed ShipTease even convinced a lot of fans who didn't like the ship that it was canon or going to be canon in the future. It never became canon, and WordofGod stated Oz and Alice were never romantically involved and never
would eventually marry Reim, who himself is be in an interview after the release of the last volume, as well as that Oz would have been much more likely to be paired up get together with [[DatingCatwoman Lily]].Echo [[spoiler: if things had gone differently.]]
* In a very mild and (possibly) nearly unnoticeable way, Fang x Lottie is one of these. It has actually been confirmed (albeit vaguely) one-sided since WordOfGod said she thought Fang had fallen "slightly in love with Lottie." However, mutually it never happened, not only because [[spoiler: Fang died]] but because Lottie is eternally in love with Oswald.
9th Aug '16 12:21:04 AM cute_heart
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ShipSinking: Nearly every pairing got sunk by the time the epilogue came out. [[spoiler:Some examples are Oz and Alice dying after separating the Core of the Abyss and White Alice, Break died in Sharon's arms and same with Echo dying in Oz's arms, Rufus Barma dying 3 years after the fiasco in Sablier without getting together with Cheryl, and Vincent cut off his ties to Ada due to being a Baskerville.]]

to:

* ShipSinking: Nearly every pairing got sunk by the time the epilogue came out. [[spoiler:Some examples are Oz and Alice dying after separating the Core of the Abyss and White Alice, Break died in Sharon's arms and same with Echo dying in Oz's arms, Rufus Barma dying 3 years after the fiasco in Sablier without getting together with Cheryl, and Vincent cut off his ties to Ada due to being a Baskerville. The only ones that got together are Sharon and Reim.]]
9th Aug '16 12:20:03 AM cute_heart
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ShipSinking: Nearly every pairing got sunk by the time the epilogue came out. [[spoiler:Some examples are Oz and Alice dying after separating the Will of the Abyss and White Alice, Break died in Sharon's arms, Rufus Barma dying 3 years after the fiasco in Sablier without getting together with Cheryl, and Vincent cut off his ties to Ada due to being a Baskerville.]]

to:

* ShipSinking: Nearly every pairing got sunk by the time the epilogue came out. [[spoiler:Some examples are Oz and Alice dying after separating the Will Core of the Abyss and White Alice, Break died in Sharon's arms and same with Echo dying in Oz's arms, Rufus Barma dying 3 years after the fiasco in Sablier without getting together with Cheryl, and Vincent cut off his ties to Ada due to being a Baskerville.]]
6th Aug '16 2:16:34 AM cute_heart
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ShipSinking: Nearly every pairing got sunk by the time the epilogue came out. [[spoiler:Some examples are Oz and Alice dying after separating the Will of the Abyss and White Alice, Break died in Sharon's arms, Rufus Barma dying 3 years after the fiasco in Sablier without getting together with Cheryl, and Vincent cut off his ties to Ada due to being a Baskerville.]]
28th Jul '16 12:27:43 AM Anddrix
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* BaseBreaker:

to:

* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter:



** [[BaseBreaker Vincent]] was also up there in the Japanese polls towards the manga's end.

to:

** [[BaseBreaker Vincent]] Vincent was also up there in the Japanese polls towards the manga's end.
30th Apr '16 8:21:38 AM Berrenta
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ItGetsBetter: While Pandora Hearts is usually considered a brilliant piece of literature by those who've read it from beginning to end, it's not uncommon for newer readers have a hard time with the earlier chapters because of their KudzuPlot characteristics and tendency for confusing events to occur that go dozens of chapters without being explained, as well as the general feeling of "off-ness" some experience. The story begins to hit its stride after the Cheshire Cat arc and Elliot's introduction, which is when the protagonists' character development begins and more depth is given to different plot threads, and becomes vastly more interesting towards the half-way mark, when the story gains clarity, concrete answers begin to be supplied, and the twists begin.


Added DiffLines:

* SlowPacedBeginning: While Pandora Hearts is usually considered a brilliant piece of literature by those who've read it from beginning to end, it's not uncommon for newer readers have a hard time with the earlier chapters because of their KudzuPlot characteristics and tendency for confusing events to occur that go dozens of chapters without being explained, as well as the general feeling of "off-ness" some experience. The story begins to hit its stride after the Cheshire Cat arc and Elliot's introduction, which is when the protagonists' character development begins and more depth is given to different plot threads, and becomes vastly more interesting towards the half-way mark, when the story gains clarity, concrete answers begin to be supplied, and the twists begin.
This list shows the last 10 events of 120. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=YMMV.PandoraHearts