History YMMV / PS238

3rd Mar '15 11:59:36 AM TheUnsquished
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** Some of the alternate versions of himself Tyler sees in the mirrors at The Castle Beyond Time and Space are pretty nightmare-inducing. In one he is a powerful telepath who has accidentally linked everybody else together in a hivemind, making him the only lonely person in the world (see GoneHorriblyRight in the main page). In another, he is the strongest meta-prodigy at PS238 - and uses his power to harm and bully everybody else. Imagine seeing your friends being bullied - and then imagine that the bully is ''you''.

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** Some of the alternate versions of himself Tyler sees in the mirrors at The Castle Beyond Time and Space are pretty nightmare-inducing. In one he is a powerful telepath who has accidentally linked everybody else together in a hivemind, making him the only lonely person in the world (see GoneHorriblyRight in the main page). In another, he is the strongest meta-prodigy at PS238 ComicBook/PS238 - and uses his power to harm and bully everybody else. Imagine seeing your friends being bullied - and then imagine that the bully is ''you''.
7th Aug '14 1:27:03 PM Ulathon1
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** Some of the alternate versions of himself Tyler sees in the mirrors at The Castle Beyond Time and Space are pretty nightmare-inducing. In one he is a powerful telepath who has accidentally linked everybody else together in a hivemind, making him the only lonely person in the world (see GoneHorriblyRight above). In another, he is the strongest meta-prodigy at PS238 - and uses his power to harm and bully everybody else.

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** Some of the alternate versions of himself Tyler sees in the mirrors at The Castle Beyond Time and Space are pretty nightmare-inducing. In one he is a powerful telepath who has accidentally linked everybody else together in a hivemind, making him the only lonely person in the world (see GoneHorriblyRight above).in the main page). In another, he is the strongest meta-prodigy at PS238 - and uses his power to harm and bully everybody else. Imagine seeing your friends being bullied - and then imagine that the bully is ''you''.
7th Aug '14 1:25:22 PM Ulathon1
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* NightmareFuel:
** Invoked by the Revenant when discussing [[spoiler:Harold's power nullification and enhancement abilities]]. A lot of supers have a very bad response to the idea of someone messing with their powers.
** Some of the alternate versions of himself Tyler sees in the mirrors at The Castle Beyond Time and Space are pretty nightmare-inducing. In one he is a powerful telepath who has accidentally linked everybody else together in a hivemind, making him the only lonely person in the world (see GoneHorriblyRight above). In another, he is the strongest meta-prodigy at PS238 - and uses his power to harm and bully everybody else.
14th Apr '13 2:57:50 PM Austin
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* LoopholeAbuse / DickDastardlyStopsToCheat: When the Crystal Skull weasels out of giving Zodon $100,000 by giving him store credit instead of cash, all the characters treat it like LoopholeAbuse. Thinking about it from a [[MST3KMantra more objective opinion]], though, this is possibly ''even more damaging'' to his business. Sure, while he is not giving up $100,000 in cash, he is still giving up a huge source of revenue. He is essentially giving up just a little less money(the profit) and lowering his ability to draw in many customers who go for the shopping, but stay for the gambling. And if the Skull is following the model of many casinos and selling merchandise at a loss(they are mainly there for convenience, and they get your money anyway on the gambling floor), it would actually have been ''cheaper'' to just give Zodon the money. This becomes one of the other two tropes whether or not Skull knew it. It may have just been Skull's [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat villainous personality being villainous]], or [[YouFailEconomicsForever not]].
** The point wasn't to cheat Zodon out of the promised reward, it was to stop him from using the $100000 in cash to buy himself a nuclear reactor or what-have-you. By restricting him to the gift shop, he is restricting how much technology he can buy. If doing so means Crystal Skull loses an extra $10k from the merchandise but stays in the Revenant's good graces, then it is an acceptable loss.
3rd Apr '13 7:49:02 PM Discar
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* {{Narm}}: The lower-teeth-over-upper-lip face [[spoiler:Toby]] keeps pulling when he gets excited doesn't make ''any'' sense. If the author was aiming for CreepyChild, he merely hit "dorky".
** I always assumed he was going for BIZARRO Tyler or possible 'insane' more than creepy.
** He's probably trying to represent him experiencing something like a seizure.

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* {{Narm}}: The lower-teeth-over-upper-lip face [[spoiler:Toby]] keeps pulling when he gets excited doesn't make ''any'' sense. If the author was aiming for CreepyChild, he merely hit "dorky".
** I always assumed he was going for BIZARRO Tyler or possible 'insane' more than creepy.
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"dorky". He's probably trying to represent him experiencing something like a seizure.
1st Mar '13 7:07:56 AM hullflyer
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** He's probably trying to represent him experiencing something like a seizure.
25th Feb '13 8:57:51 AM hullflyer
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** The point wasn't to cheat Zodon out of the promised reward, it was to stop him from using the $100000 in cash to buy himself a nuclear reactor or what-have-you. By restricting him to the gift shop, he is restricting how much technology he can buy. If doing so means Crystal Skull looses an extra $10k from the merchandise but stays in the Revenant's good graces, then it is an acceptable loss.

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** The point wasn't to cheat Zodon out of the promised reward, it was to stop him from using the $100000 in cash to buy himself a nuclear reactor or what-have-you. By restricting him to the gift shop, he is restricting how much technology he can buy. If doing so means Crystal Skull looses loses an extra $10k from the merchandise but stays in the Revenant's good graces, then it is an acceptable loss.
4th Feb '13 3:40:41 AM LazyDjinn
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** I always assumed he was going for BIZARRO Tyler or possible 'insane' more than creepy.
7th Dec '12 8:52:53 AM StFan
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* LoopholeAbuse / DickDastardlyStopsToCheat: When the Crystal Skull weasels out of giving Zodon $100,000 by giving him store credit instead of cash, all the characters treat it like LoopholeAbuse. Thinking about it from a [[MST3KMantra more objective opinion]], though, this is possibly ''even more damaging'' to his business. Sure, while he is not giving up $100,000 in cash, he is still giving up a huge source of revenue. He is essentially giving up just a little less money(the profit) and lowering his ability to draw in many customers who go for the shopping, but stay for the gambling. And if the Skull is following the model of many casinos and selling merchandise at a loss(they are mainly there for convenience, and they get your money anyway on the gambling floor), it would actually have been ''cheaper'' to just give Zodon the money. This becomes one of the other two tropes whether or not Skull knew it. It may have just been Skull's [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat villainous personality being villainous]], or [[YouFailEconomicsForever not]].
** The point wasn't to cheat Zodon out of the promised reward, it was to stop him from using the $100000 in cash to buy himself a nuclear reactor or what-have-you. By restricting him to the gift shop, he is restricting how much technology he can buy. If doing so means Crystal Skull looses an extra $10k from the merchandise but stays in the Revenant's good graces, then it is an acceptable loss.



* LoopholeAbuse/ DickDastardlyStopsToCheat: When the Crystal Skull weasels out of giving Zodon $100,000 by giving him store credit instead of cash, all the characters treat it like LoopholeAbuse. Thinking about it from a [[MST3KMantra more objective opinion]], though, this is possibly ''even more damaging'' to his business. Sure, while he is not giving up $100,000 in cash, he is still giving up a huge source of revenue. He is essentially giving up just a little less money(the profit) and lowering his ability to draw in many customers who go for the shopping, but stay for the gambling. And if the Skull is following the model of many casinos and selling merchandise at a loss(they are mainly there for convenience, and they get your money anyway on the gambling floor), it would actually have been ''cheaper'' to just give Zodon the money. This becomes one of the other two tropes whether or not Skull knew it. It may have just been Skull's [[DickDastardlyStopsToCheat villainous personality being villainous]], or [[YouFailEconomicsForever not]].
** The point wasn't to cheat Zodon out of the promised reward, it was to stop him from using the $100000 in cash to buy himself a nuclear reactor or what-have-you. By restricting him to the gift shop, he is restricting how much technology he can buy. If doing so means Crystal Skull looses an extra $10k from the merchandise but stays in the Revenant's good graces, then it is an acceptable loss.
7th Dec '12 8:51:58 AM StFan
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** The point wasn't to cheat Zodon out of the promised reward, it was to stop him from using the $100000 in cash to buy himself a nuclear reactor or what-have-you. By restricting him to the gift shop, he is restricting how much technology he can buy. If doing so means Crystal Skull looses an extra $10k from the merchandise but stays in the Revenant's good graces, then it is an acceptable loss.

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** The point wasn't to cheat Zodon out of the promised reward, it was to stop him from using the $100000 in cash to buy himself a nuclear reactor or what-have-you. By restricting him to the gift shop, he is restricting how much technology he can buy. If doing so means Crystal Skull looses an extra $10k from the merchandise but stays in the Revenant's good graces, then it is an acceptable loss.loss.
* XMeetsY: As mentioned in the description, this has been described as "Take the kids from [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Springfield Elementary]], give them ComicBook/{{X-Men}} powers, and send 'em to [[Franchise/HarryPotter Hogwarts.]]"
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