History YMMV / Othello

30th Nov '16 9:07:56 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** There are alternative views of Othello himself: Hero, fool or downright monster? The critic John Sutherland noted that in the original story, Shakespeare's source material, the unsympathetic Othello-equivalent plotted with the Iago-equivalent about how to kill his wife in a way that wouldn't leave a mark/would look like natural causes, so that he could escape punishment and could maintain his position. While Shakespeare's Othello is way more sympathetic overall, there's [[TheArtifact a few lines that indicate that he too attempted such a plan]], putting him in a worse light. Sutherland also discusses how despite making grandiose claims about his handkerchief, in other instances, Othello treats it like a normal handkerchief, and his later obsession with it has elements of BelievingTheirOwnLies.

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** There are alternative views of Othello himself: Hero, fool or downright monster? The critic John Sutherland noted that in the original story, Shakespeare's source material, the unsympathetic Othello-equivalent plotted with the Iago-equivalent about how to kill his wife in a way that wouldn't leave a mark/would look like natural causes, so that he could escape punishment and could maintain his position. While Shakespeare's Othello is [[AdaptationalHeroism way more sympathetic overall, overall]], there's [[TheArtifact a few lines that indicate that he too attempted such a plan]], putting him in a worse light. Sutherland also discusses how despite making grandiose claims about his handkerchief, in other instances, Othello treats it like a normal handkerchief, and his later obsession with it has elements of BelievingTheirOwnLies.
30th Nov '16 9:01:34 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Another one is that he didn't actually have a motive, and [[ForTheEvulz was doing it just because]]. The numerous motive that get discarded and contradicted don't help.

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** Another one is that he didn't actually have a motive, and [[ForTheEvulz was doing it just because]]. The numerous motive motives that get discarded and contradicted don't help.
30th Nov '16 9:01:14 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Another one is that he didn't actually have a motive, and was doing it just because. The numerous motive that get discarded and contradicted don't help.

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** Another one is that he didn't actually have a motive, and [[ForTheEvulz was doing it just because.because]]. The numerous motive that get discarded and contradicted don't help.
11th Nov '16 3:11:16 PM supergod
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11th Nov '16 3:07:22 PM supergod
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*** I read a book that actually listed 4 theories of Iago's motivation (1) He had sold his soul to the devil, who told him to corrupt Othello and kill Desdemona (2) Iago resented being a servant and got a kick out of tricking his betters into doing what HE wanted. (3) Iago was in love with Othello and wanted to win him from Desdemona by ruining her reputation, (4) Iago was a warped artist who tricked everybody into following his "script" -- ie, Othello murders his "faithless" wife.
18th Oct '16 8:09:51 AM CharlesTheBold
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*** I read a book that actually listed 4 theories of Iago's motivation (1) He had sold his soul to the devil, who told him to corrupt Othello and kill Desdemona (2) Iago resented being a servant and got a kick out of tricking his betters into doing what HE wanted. (3) Iago was in love with Othello and wanted to win him from Desdemona by ruining her reputation, (4) Iago was a warped artist who tricked everybody into following his "script" -- ie, Othello murders his "faithless" wife.
6th Oct '16 10:39:45 AM frnmmma25
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** Another one is that he didn't actually have a motive, and was doing it just because. The numerous motive that get discarded and contradicted don't help.
15th Jul '16 9:10:27 PM shatterstar
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* ValueResonance / SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The play's main message (interracial marriage can be a loving one and racism can bring severe consequences) is still, if not more, relevant in today world of global traveling easier than Shakespeare's time.

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* ValueResonance ValuesResonance / SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The play's main message (interracial marriage can be a loving one and racism can bring severe consequences) is still, if not more, relevant in today world of global traveling easier than Shakespeare's time.
15th Jul '16 9:10:10 PM shatterstar
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* ValueResonance / SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: The play's main message (interracial marriage can be a loving one and racism can bring severe consequences) is still, if not more, relevant in today world of global traveling easier than Shakespeare's time.
14th Jul '16 8:09:39 PM Tarlonniel
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!The Shakesperean play

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