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** Ratched is just a nurse trying to do her job as well as she knows how; [=McMurphy=], a racist and statutory rapist, insists on causing mayhem on her ward.

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** Ratched is just a nurse trying to do her job as well as she knows how; [=McMurphy=], a racist racist, sexist and statutory rapist, insists on causing mayhem on her ward.



** The African-American orderlies are treated a bit indelicately, and [=McMurphy=] even drops an N-Bomb. In the book, the orderlies are overtly thugs and rapists.

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** The African-American orderlies are treated a bit indelicately, indelicately by the narrative , and [=McMurphy=] even drops an N-Bomb. In the book, the orderlies are overtly thugs and rapists.

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* DracoInLeatherPants:
** Many viewers see Nurse Ratched as just a somewhat mean nurse who is just doing her job the only way she knows how. This negates the fact that Ratched is not trying to help her patients, but control them, and that she represents a widespread problem within mental wards at the time of the story: that dangerous and invasive medical procedures were often used to punish patients instead of help them. A lot of this may be due to the protagonist being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic due to ValuesDissonance, but this doesn’t make Ratched’s actions any less reprehensible. Viewers also seem to miss the subtle ways she humiliates her patients, and how she often starts conflicts between them for no reason.

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DracoInLeatherPants: Many viewers see Nurse Ratched as just a somewhat mean nurse who is just doing her job the only way she knows how. This negates the fact that Ratched is not trying to help her patients, but control them, and that she represents a widespread problem within mental wards at the time of the story: that dangerous and invasive medical procedures were often used to punish patients instead of help them. A lot of this may be due to the protagonist being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic due to ValuesDissonance, but this doesn’t make Ratched’s actions any less reprehensible. Viewers also seem to miss the subtle ways she humiliates her patients, and how she often starts conflicts between them for no reason.
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** Because the movie takes out some of the more overtly monstrous acts by Ratched described in the book (such as her helping the orderlies sexually abuse the patients), it makes it easier for some viewers to take her side. Virtually all her actions in the film are legal and legitimate according to the laws and norms of the time; recognizing her evil requires viewers to question the morality of those norms.
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* SignatureScene: Chief throwing the sink through the windows and escaping at the end.

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* %%* SignatureScene: Chief throwing the sink through the windows and escaping at the end.

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* HoYay: Plenty in the novel, but not between any specific characters and used more to build up the discomforting, emasculating atmosphere of the hospital than to establish the sweetly ambiguous kinds of relationships that the trope is associated with.

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Plenty in the novel, but not between any specific characters and used more to build up the discomforting, emasculating atmosphere of the hospital than to establish the sweetly ambiguous kinds of relationships that the trope is associated with.



* MoralEventHorizon: Nurse Ratched has been on the wrong end of the moral event horizon for many years, as she is seen to submit her charges to torture for crossing her (the scene with the germophobe after the fishing trip, the forced anal administration of medication to a patient merely because he questioned what the pills were for), the electroshock 'therapy', and she has also lobotomized patients as punishment for behavior she dislikes. Nurse Ratched is utterly ''monstrous'' in the book.

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Nurse Ratched has been on the wrong end of the moral event horizon for many years, as she is seen to submit her charges to torture for crossing her (the scene with the germophobe after the fishing trip, the forced anal administration of medication to a patient merely because he questioned what the pills were for), the electroshock 'therapy', and she has also lobotomized patients as punishment for behavior she dislikes. Nurse Ratched is utterly ''monstrous'' in the book.



* DracoInLeatherPants: Many viewers see Nurse Ratched as just a somewhat mean nurse who is just doing her job the only way she knows how. This negates the fact that Ratched is not trying to help her patients, but control them, and that she represents a widespread problem within mental wards at the time of the story: that dangerous and invasive medical procedures were often used to punish patients instead of help them. A lot of this may be due to the protagonist being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic due to ValuesDissonance, but this doesn’t make Ratched’s actions any less reprehensible. Viewers also seem to miss the subtle ways she humiliates her patients, and how she often starts conflicts between them for no reason.

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Many viewers see Nurse Ratched as just a somewhat mean nurse who is just doing her job the only way she knows how. This negates the fact that Ratched is not trying to help her patients, but control them, and that she represents a widespread problem within mental wards at the time of the story: that dangerous and invasive medical procedures were often used to punish patients instead of help them. A lot of this may be due to the protagonist being UnintentionallyUnsympathetic due to ValuesDissonance, but this doesn’t make Ratched’s actions any less reprehensible. Viewers also seem to miss the subtle ways she humiliates her patients, and how she often starts conflicts between them for no reason.



* HoYay: In the film, there's Billy/[=McMurphy=]. [=McMurphy=] even says to Candy something like, "I just want you to do this one thing for me. He's cute, isn't he?"

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In the film, there's Billy/[=McMurphy=]. [=McMurphy=] even says to Candy something like, "I just want you to do this one thing for me. He's cute, isn't he?"

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*** Except that Nurse Ratched seems to believe that her job is "to have absolute power over the patients in my ward", not "to care for the patients in my ward". Her failure to do the latter and her insistence on doing the former is what causes the situation to get out of control.


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*** Except that Nurse Ratched seems to believe that her job is "to have absolute power over the patients in my ward", not "to care for the patients in my ward". Her failure to do the latter and her insistence on doing the former is what causes the situation to get out of control.
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*** Except that Nurse Ratched seems to believe that her job is "to have absolute power over the patients in my ward", not "to care for the patients in my ward".

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*** Except that Nurse Ratched seems to believe that her job is "to have absolute power over the patients in my ward", not "to care for the patients in my ward". Her failure to do the latter and her insistence on doing the former is what causes the situation to get out of control.
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*** Except that Nurse Ratched seems to believe that her job is "to have absolute power over the patients in my ward", not "to care for the patients in my ward".
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* HarsherInHindsight: An in-universe example is the scene where McMurphy shows up glassy-eyed and uncoordinated following his electroshock treatment as a joke on the other inmates. It's played for laughs, but it's much less comical in hindsight because Mack is mimicking the very state that he winds up in at the end following his lobotomy.

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* HarsherInHindsight: An in-universe example is the scene where McMurphy [=McMurphy=] shows up glassy-eyed and uncoordinated following his electroshock treatment as a joke on the other inmates. It's played for laughs, but it's much less comical in hindsight because Mack is mimicking the very state that he winds up in at the end following his lobotomy.
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** Because the movie takes out some of the more overtly monstrous acts by Ratched described in the book (such as helping the orderlies sexually abuse the patients), it makes it easier for some viewers to take her side. Virtually all her actions in the film are legal and legitimate according to the laws and norms of the time; recognizing her evil requires viewers to question the morality of those norms.

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** Because the movie takes out some of the more overtly monstrous acts by Ratched described in the book (such as her helping the orderlies sexually abuse the patients), it makes it easier for some viewers to take her side. Virtually all her actions in the film are legal and legitimate according to the laws and norms of the time; recognizing her evil requires viewers to question the morality of those norms.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** [=McMurphy=]. We're supposed to see him as an admirable anti-authority figure even though he's loud, obnoxious, casually racist, and sexist and he had no qualms about conning his fellow patients (who he also mocks and berates) out of their money. Not only that but the entire reason he's at the asylum in the first place is so that he can avoid going to prison on ''statutory rape charges''.

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UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: [=McMurphy=]. We're supposed to see him as an admirable anti-authority figure even though he's loud, obnoxious, casually racist, and sexist and he had no qualms about conning his fellow patients (who he also mocks and berates) out of their money. Not only that but the entire reason he's at the asylum in the first place is so that he can avoid going to prison on ''statutory rape charges''.

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