History YMMV / OnceUponATimeInTheWest

1st Jan '17 4:37:49 AM Morgenthaler
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* EvilIsCool: Frank fits very well to the trope. Its a combination of {{badass}}, ProfessionalKiller, DeadpanSnarker and his suit practically makes him a cool villain. The fact that he's played by Creator/HenryFonda certainly helps.

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* EvilIsCool: Frank fits very well to the trope. Its a combination of {{badass}}, badassery, ProfessionalKiller, DeadpanSnarker and his suit practically makes him a cool villain. The fact that he's played by Creator/HenryFonda certainly helps.
31st Dec '16 1:11:47 AM bt8257
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* CompleteMonster: [[TheDragon Frank]] is a former bandit turned enforcer for the railroad company. During the film's opening sequence, he and his men gun down the [=McBain=] family, with Frank shooting down the last survivor, [[WouldHurtAChild a small boy]], himself, before nailing a duster to the door so that local {{bandito}} chief [[AntiHero Cheyenne]] will be blamed for the crime. When he reports to his boss, [[EvilCripple Mr. Morton]], [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Morton]] says that he only wanted the [=McBain=]s scared. Frank's response: "[[PsychoForHire People scare better when they're dying]]." When Morton tries to cut a deal with [=McBain=]'s newly arrived widow (ex-HookerWithAHeartOfGold Jill), [[DragonInChief Frank]] sabotages the plan, takes Jill hostage, [[RapeAsDrama has his way with her]], and forces her to sell her land at an auction, positioning his own men there to intimidate the bidders. The arrival of Harmonica, the film's protagonist, ruins this plan, and sets the stage for TheReveal of Frank's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]]. [[spoiler:When Harmonica was a boy, Frank made his older brother stand on his shoulders, and put a noose around the brother's neck. When Harmonica collapsed from exhaustion, his brother was hanged. To add an appropriately {{sadist}}ic touch, Frank placed a harmonica between the younger brother's lips and instructed him to "[[KickTheDog keep your]] [[WhamLine lovin' brother]] [[KickTheDog happy]]."]] No reason is ever given for his actions, and Frank has ultimately gone down in film history as one of the most vicious villains of his era.

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* CompleteMonster: [[TheDragon Frank]] is a former bandit turned enforcer for the railroad company. During the film's opening sequence, he and his men gun down the [=McBain=] family, with Frank shooting down the last survivor, [[WouldHurtAChild a small boy]], himself, before nailing a duster to the door so that local {{bandito}} chief [[AntiHero Cheyenne]] will be blamed for the crime. When he reports to his boss, [[EvilCripple Mr. Morton]], [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Morton]] says that he only wanted the [=McBain=]s scared. Frank's response: "[[PsychoForHire People scare better when they're dying]]." When Morton tries to cut a deal with [=McBain=]'s newly arrived widow (ex-HookerWithAHeartOfGold Jill), [[DragonInChief Frank]] sabotages the plan, takes Jill hostage, [[RapeAsDrama has his way with her]], and forces her to sell her land at an auction, positioning his own men there to intimidate the bidders. The arrival of Harmonica, the film's protagonist, ruins this plan, and sets the stage for TheReveal of Frank's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]]. [[spoiler:When Harmonica was a boy, Frank made his older brother stand on his shoulders, and put a noose around the brother's neck. When Harmonica collapsed from exhaustion, his brother was hanged. To add an appropriately {{sadist}}ic touch, Frank placed a harmonica between the younger brother's lips and instructed instructs him to "[[KickTheDog keep your]] [[WhamLine lovin' brother]] [[KickTheDog happy]]."]] " He then places a harmonica between the younger brother's lips.]] No reason is ever given for his actions, and Frank has ultimately gone down in film history as one of the most vicious villains of his era.



* EvilIsCool: Frank fits very well to the trope. Its a combination of BadAss, ProfessionalKiller, DeadpanSnarker and his suit practically makes him a cool villain. The fact that he's played by Creator/HenryFonda certainly helps.

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* EvilIsCool: Frank fits very well to the trope. Its a combination of BadAss, {{badass}}, ProfessionalKiller, DeadpanSnarker and his suit practically makes him a cool villain. The fact that he's played by Creator/HenryFonda certainly helps.



* MoralEventHorizon: Frank crosses this in his very first scene, murdering an entire family right down to their youngest child. Yes, Frank is pretty vile.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Frank crosses this it in his very first scene, murdering an entire a whole family right down to their youngest child. Yes, Frank is pretty vile.child.
31st Dec '16 12:51:04 AM bt8257
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Frank is certainly nuanced for a sociopathic murderer; is Frank serious about his desire to transition into a genteel retirement? Does he finally understand that money is more powerful than guns? Does Frank genuinely respect Morton for his determination and business acumen or is only hiding his contempt for a man who is more powerful than him despite being weaker? When Morton is dying, Frank at the last moment chooses not to finish him with a bullet... is Frank taking delight at watching the man crawling like a worm or is Frank allowing him to reach a puddle, a stand in for his beloved Pacific ocean? The final conversation with Harmonica suggests that he'll never outgrow the bandito mentality: "Not a businessman, just a man."
* CompleteMonster: [[TheDragon Frank]] is a former bandit turned enforcer for the railroad company. During the film's opening sequence, he and his men gun down the [=McBain=] family, with Frank shooting down the last survivor, [[WouldHurtAChild a small boy]], himself, before nailing a duster to the door so that local {{bandito}} chief [[AntiHero Cheyenne]] will be blamed for the crime. When he reports to his boss, [[EvilCripple Mr. Morton]], [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Morton]] says that he only wanted the [=McBain=]s scared. Frank's response: "[[PsychoForHire People scare better when they're dying]]." When Morton tries to cut a deal with [=McBain=]'s newly arrived widow (ex-HookerWithAHeartOfGold Jill), [[DragonInChief Frank]] sabotages the plan, takes Jill hostage, [[RapeAsDrama has his way with her]], and forces her to sell her land at an auction, positioning his own men there to intimidate the bidders. The arrival of Harmonica, the film's protagonist, ruins this plan, and sets the stage for TheReveal of Frank's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]]. When Harmonica was a boy, Frank made his older brother stand on his shoulders, and put a noose around the brother's neck. When Harmonica collapsed from exhaustion, his brother was hanged. To add an appropriately {{sadist}}ic touch, Frank placed a harmonica between the younger brother's lips and instructed him to "[[KickTheDog keep your lovin' brother happy]]." No reason is ever given for his actions, and Frank has ultimately gone down in film history as one of the most vicious villains of his era.
%%* CreepyAwesome: Frank.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Frank is certainly nuanced for a sociopathic murderer; is Frank serious about his desire to transition into a genteel retirement? Does he finally understand that money is more powerful than guns? Does Frank genuinely respect Morton for his determination and business acumen or is only hiding his contempt for a man who is more powerful than him despite being weaker? When Morton is dying, Frank at the last moment chooses not to finish him with a bullet... is Frank taking delight at watching the man crawling like a worm or is Frank allowing him to reach a puddle, a stand in for his beloved Pacific ocean? The final conversation with Harmonica suggests that he'll never outgrow the bandito mentality: "Not a businessman, just a man."
* CompleteMonster: [[TheDragon Frank]] is a former bandit turned enforcer for the railroad company. During the film's opening sequence, he and his men gun down the [=McBain=] family, with Frank shooting down the last survivor, [[WouldHurtAChild a small boy]], himself, before nailing a duster to the door so that local {{bandito}} chief [[AntiHero Cheyenne]] will be blamed for the crime. When he reports to his boss, [[EvilCripple Mr. Morton]], [[IneffectualSympatheticVillain Morton]] says that he only wanted the [=McBain=]s scared. Frank's response: "[[PsychoForHire People scare better when they're dying]]." When Morton tries to cut a deal with [=McBain=]'s newly arrived widow (ex-HookerWithAHeartOfGold Jill), [[DragonInChief Frank]] sabotages the plan, takes Jill hostage, [[RapeAsDrama has his way with her]], and forces her to sell her land at an auction, positioning his own men there to intimidate the bidders. The arrival of Harmonica, the film's protagonist, ruins this plan, and sets the stage for TheReveal of Frank's [[MoralEventHorizon worst crime]]. When [[spoiler:When Harmonica was a boy, Frank made his older brother stand on his shoulders, and put a noose around the brother's neck. When Harmonica collapsed from exhaustion, his brother was hanged. To add an appropriately {{sadist}}ic touch, Frank placed a harmonica between the younger brother's lips and instructed him to "[[KickTheDog keep your your]] [[WhamLine lovin' brother brother]] [[KickTheDog happy]]." "]] No reason is ever given for his actions, and Frank has ultimately gone down in film history as one of the most vicious villains of his era.
%%* CreepyAwesome: Frank.
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* TheWoobie:
** Jill that discover to be already a widow and a woman alone in the West.

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* TheWoobie:
** Jill that discover to be already
TheWoobie: Jill, when she becomes a widow and a woman alone in the West.
20th Dec '16 9:29:54 AM RobbSony3
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* NightmareFuel: [[TheSociopath Frank]] [[CompleteMonster in general]]. Just check out some of his most depraved acts.
4th Oct '16 12:25:36 PM rafi
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* CreepyAwesome: Frank.

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* %%* CreepyAwesome: Frank.



* TheWoobie: Jill.

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* TheWoobie: Jill.TheWoobie:
** Jill that discover to be already a widow and a woman alone in the West.
4th Oct '16 12:09:46 PM youfeelingluckypunk27
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** Cheyenne crosses into this when we're revealed that he's [[spoiler: SecretlyDying]].
10th Jun '16 1:27:08 AM Dravencour
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* MoralEventHorizon: Frank crosses this in his very first scene, killing a little kid. Yes, Frank is pretty vile.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Frank crosses this in his very first scene, killing a little kid.murdering an entire family right down to their youngest child. Yes, Frank is pretty vile.
1st Mar '16 3:39:56 PM ArcaneAzmadi
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* FunnyMoments: [[Funny/OnceUponATimeInTheWest Has its own page.]]



* TearJerker:[[Tearjerker/OnceUponATimeInTheWest Has its own page.]]
8th Feb '16 12:37:24 AM TrollBrutal
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Frank does have a very dark, morbid point when he states that people scare better ''when they are dying.''
16th Oct '15 4:12:57 AM rafi
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: It's Morricone, so this might be a given, but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ppJxujFSQI "The Man With A Harmonica"]] has got to be one of the most badass film cues of all time.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: It's Morricone, so this might be a given, but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ppJxujFSQI com/watch?v=m6BQKFs3-VM "The Man With A Harmonica"]] has got to be one of the most badass film cues of all time.
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