History YMMV / OldMansWar

16th Dec '15 6:12:18 AM patton14
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** "Now this little fucker is a Salong. Our first official encounter with the Salong happened after we tracked down a rogue colony of humans. People aren't supposed to freelance colonize, and the reason why becomes pretty obvious here. The colonists landed on a planet that was also a colonization target for the Salong; somewhere along the way the Salong decided that humans were good eatin', so they attacked the humans and set up a human meat farm. All the adult human males but a handful were killed, and those that were kept were 'milked' for their sperm. The women were artificially inseminated and their newborns taken, penned and fattened like veal.
It was years before we found the place. When we did so, the CDF troops razed the Salong colony to the ground and barbecued the Salong colony leader in the cookout. Needless to say we've been fighting the baby-eating sons of bitches ever since."

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** "Now this little fucker is a Salong. Our first official encounter with the Salong happened after we tracked down a rogue colony of humans. People aren't supposed to freelance colonize, and the reason why becomes pretty obvious here. The colonists landed on a planet that was also a colonization target for the Salong; somewhere along the way the Salong decided that humans were good eatin', so they attacked the humans and set up a human meat farm. All the adult human males but a handful were killed, and those that were kept were 'milked' for their sperm. The women were artificially inseminated and their newborns taken, penned and fattened like veal.
veal.It was years before we found the place. When we did so, the CDF troops razed the Salong colony to the ground and barbecued the Salong colony leader in the cookout. Needless to say we've been fighting the baby-eating sons of bitches ever since."
16th Dec '15 6:11:46 AM patton14
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* Nightmare fuel: the salong,(An intelligent species with similar appearance to the deer)

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* Nightmare fuel: {{Nightmare fuel}}: the salong,(An intelligent species with similar appearance to the deer)




"It was years before we found the place. When we did so, the CDF troops razed the Salong colony to the ground and barbecued the Salong colony leader in the cookout. Needless to say we've been fighting the baby-eating sons of bitches ever since."

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\n"It It was years before we found the place. When we did so, the CDF troops razed the Salong colony to the ground and barbecued the Salong colony leader in the cookout. Needless to say we've been fighting the baby-eating sons of bitches ever since."
13th Dec '15 1:53:29 PM patton14
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** ''Old Man's War
"Now this little fucker is a Salong. Our first official encounter with the Salong happened after we tracked down a rogue colony of humans. People aren't supposed to freelance colonize, and the reason why becomes pretty obvious here. The colonists landed on a planet that was also a colonization target for the Salong; somewhere along the way the Salong decided that humans were good eatin', so they attacked the humans and set up a human meat farm. All the adult human males but a handful were killed, and those that were kept were 'milked' for their sperm. The women were artificially inseminated and their newborns taken, penned and fattened like veal.

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** ''Old Man's War
"Now this little fucker is a Salong. Our first official encounter with the Salong happened after we tracked down a rogue colony of humans. People aren't supposed to freelance colonize, and the reason why becomes pretty obvious here. The colonists landed on a planet that was also a colonization target for the Salong; somewhere along the way the Salong decided that humans were good eatin', so they attacked the humans and set up a human meat farm. All the adult human males but a handful were killed, and those that were kept were 'milked' for their sperm. The women were artificially inseminated and their newborns taken, penned and fattened like veal.
13th Dec '15 1:52:50 PM patton14
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** Many aspects of ''Old Man's War'' can lead to some rather nasty FridgeHorror regarding just how certain aspects of the Colonial Defense Forces work, in particular the use of BrainUploading to extend life by transferring a human's mind into a BlankSlate clone, or the use of enhanced BlankSlate clones sans personality to create what are essentially ChildSoldiers. The sequel, ''Ghost Brigades'' is largely an [[DeConstruction exploration]] of much of this FridgeHorror to show that many characters InUniverse have similar concerns both about the SuperSoldier program and the state of humanity's foreign policy.

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** Many aspects of ''Old Man's War'' can lead to some rather nasty FridgeHorror regarding just how certain aspects of the Colonial Defense Forces work, in particular the use of BrainUploading to extend life by transferring a human's mind into a BlankSlate clone, or the use of enhanced BlankSlate clones sans personality to create what are essentially ChildSoldiers. The sequel, ''Ghost Brigades'' is largely an [[DeConstruction exploration]] of much of this FridgeHorror to show that many characters InUniverse have similar concerns both about the SuperSoldier program and the state of humanity's foreign policy.policy.
* Nightmare fuel: the salong,(An intelligent species with similar appearance to the deer)
** ''Old Man's War
"Now this little fucker is a Salong. Our first official encounter with the Salong happened after we tracked down a rogue colony of humans. People aren't supposed to freelance colonize, and the reason why becomes pretty obvious here. The colonists landed on a planet that was also a colonization target for the Salong; somewhere along the way the Salong decided that humans were good eatin', so they attacked the humans and set up a human meat farm. All the adult human males but a handful were killed, and those that were kept were 'milked' for their sperm. The women were artificially inseminated and their newborns taken, penned and fattened like veal.

"It was years before we found the place. When we did so, the CDF troops razed the Salong colony to the ground and barbecued the Salong colony leader in the cookout. Needless to say we've been fighting the baby-eating sons of bitches ever since."
30th Apr '15 6:02:11 PM AFP
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** ''Old Man's War'', as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawCharacter [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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** ''Old Man's War'', as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawCharacter [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Ghost Brigades'' and ''The Last Colony'' inverts invert this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.HumansAreTheRealMonsters.
** Many aspects of ''Old Man's War'' can lead to some rather nasty FridgeHorror regarding just how certain aspects of the Colonial Defense Forces work, in particular the use of BrainUploading to extend life by transferring a human's mind into a BlankSlate clone, or the use of enhanced BlankSlate clones sans personality to create what are essentially ChildSoldiers. The sequel, ''Ghost Brigades'' is largely an [[DeConstruction exploration]] of much of this FridgeHorror to show that many characters InUniverse have similar concerns both about the SuperSoldier program and the state of humanity's foreign policy.
29th Apr '15 9:37:18 PM Rabukurafuto
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** ''Old Man's War'', as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawLiberal [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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** ''Old Man's War'', as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawLiberal StrawCharacter [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.
31st Oct '14 3:01:59 PM LBHills
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** The original book, as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawLiberal [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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** The original book, ''Old Man's War'', as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawLiberal [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.
31st Oct '14 2:52:40 PM LBHills
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** The original book, as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawmanLiberal [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.

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** The original book, as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawmanLiberal StrawLiberal [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.
31st Oct '14 2:52:27 PM LBHills
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the afterward for ''Zoe's Tale'', Scalzi admits that a major motivation to telling a parallel story was to make Zoe returning with exactly what the Roanokers needed feel like less of a DeusExMachina. It also let him give some closure to the werewolves.

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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the afterward for ''Zoe's Tale'', Scalzi admits that a major motivation to telling a parallel story was to make Zoe returning with exactly what the Roanokers needed feel like less of a DeusExMachina. It also let him give some closure to the werewolves.werewolves.
** The original book, as an homage to ''Literature/StarshipTroopers,'' was naturally committed to a CrapsackWorld view of the universe in which humanity's only options were extinction or perpetual warfare against any race capable of occupying Earth-like worlds. (Though even in that book, the StrawmanLiberal [[JerkassHasAPoint 'has a point']] and the Consu clearly aren't following the CDF's script.) ''The Last Colony'' inverts this bleak worldview entirely, suggesting that many alien races ''can'' come to long-term peaceable agreements about territory - which leaves the CDF an example of HumansAreTheRealMonsters.
28th Mar '14 8:19:09 AM Eegah
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: In the afterward for ''Zoe's Tale'', Scalzi admits that a major motivation to telling a parallel story was to make Zoe returning with exactly what the Roanokers needed feel like less of a DeusExMachina. It also let him give some closure to the werewolves.
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