History YMMV / OldKingdom

22nd Nov '17 1:47:33 PM Elyana
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Some see Yrael's punishment for staying neutral during the first war against Orannis as [[DisproportionateRetribution completely unfair]]; so much so, in fact, that it makes [[spoiler:Mogget's]] actions in the series much more understandable, and his contempt for his slavers entirely justified. Others see Yrael as, at least originally, a DirtyCoward who deserved what he got for sitting on the sidelines during a conflict of cosmic importance.
9th Oct '17 10:50:49 AM cordychase
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* {{Magnificent Bastard}}: Depending on either your opinion of Mogget, or where you are in the series. Mogget does [[CharacterDevelopment get better]], mostly over the course of the third book. But even though Mogget can be quite caustic when he is criticizing the plans and plots of several characters, or griping about his slavery or the incompetency of his keepers, he both does his part when crisis strikes and sometimes does things that are not required of him. [[spoiler: And at the very end, when those who are standing in for the original Seven are just about to falter, Mogget steps in and adds his power to the binding and helps to save the world.]]

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* {{Magnificent Bastard}}: Depending on either your opinion of Mogget, or where you are in the series. Mogget does [[CharacterDevelopment get better]], mostly over the course of the third book. But even though Mogget can be quite caustic when he is criticizing the plans and plots of several characters, or griping about his slavery or the incompetency of his keepers, he both does his part when crisis strikes and sometimes does things that are not required of him. [[spoiler: And at the very end, when those who are standing in for the original Seven are just about to falter, Mogget steps in and adds his power to the binding and helps to save the world.]]]]
* TheUntwist: Lirael and Sam's respective roles. [[spoiler: So the EeriePaleSkinnedBrunette with a name ending in -el who takes up binding Free Magic creatures in her spare time is the Abhorsen-in-waiting, and the guy who hates his Abhorsen training and prefers his workbench to necromancy isn't? You don't say!]]
2nd Oct '17 4:41:24 PM Elyana
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mogget, part-time [[EldritchAbomination complete harmless]] [[SealedEvilInACan feline]], part-time adorably snarky MagnificentBastard.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mogget, part-time [[EldritchAbomination complete completely harmless]] [[SealedEvilInACan feline]], part-time adorably snarky MagnificentBastard.
2nd Oct '17 4:41:09 PM Elyana
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Mogget, part-time [[EldritchAbomination complete harmless]] [[SealedEvilInACan feline]], part-time adorably snarky MagnificentBastard.
17th Dec '16 5:33:57 PM cpslck
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* AngstWhatAngst: Nick is constantly upbeat and cheerful. He spends most of ''Goldenhand'' flirting with Lirael and acting like a curious child despite ''being possessed by an EldritchAbomination'' only a few months before. Occasionally he'll lash out a bit when things get really bad but it's brief and fades quickly. Every other character gets normal amounts of angst and grief (Even Ferin is mostly putting up a front), it's only him.

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* AngstWhatAngst: Nick is constantly upbeat and cheerful. He spends most of ''Goldenhand'' Goldenhand flirting with Lirael and acting like a curious child despite ''being possessed by an EldritchAbomination'' only a few months before. Occasionally he'll lash out a bit when things get really bad but it's brief and fades quickly. Every other character gets normal amounts of angst and grief (Even Ferin is mostly putting up a front), it's only him.
17th Dec '16 4:38:00 PM cpslck
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* AngstWhatAngst: Nick is constantly upbeat and cheerful. He spends most of ''Goldenhand'' flirting with Lirael and acting like a curious child despite ''being possessed by an EldritchAbomination'' only a few months before. Occasionally he'll lash out a bit when things get really bad but it's brief and fades quickly. Every other character gets normal amounts of angst and grief (Even Ferin is mostly putting up a front), it's only him.
26th Oct '16 11:04:16 AM vren55
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* IronWoobie: Considering how much conflict and personal insecurity issues Lirael has to struggle though and how it's evident she still bears the weight of the self-depreciation of her upbringing, Lirael may be one of these.
27th Jul '16 12:21:15 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker: Clariel. Some people love her as one of the few examples of an Asexual in literature and find her realistically flawed and her StartOfDarkness plausible. Other readers find her flaws unsympathetic and frustrating to read. It doesn't help that she's very different from Sabriel and Lirael.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Clariel. Some people love her as one of the few examples of an Asexual in literature and find her realistically flawed and her StartOfDarkness plausible. Other readers find her flaws unsympathetic and frustrating to read. It doesn't help that she's very different from Sabriel and Lirael.



* {{Magnificent Bastard}}: Depending on either your opinion of Mogget, or where you are in the series. Mogget does [[CharacterDevelopment get better]], mostly over the course of the third book. But even though Mogget can be quite caustic when he is criticizing the plans and plots of several characters, or griping about his slavery or the incompetency of his keepers, he both does his part when crisis strikes and sometimes does things that are not required of him. [[spoiler: And at the very end, when those who are standing in for the original Seven are just about to falter, Mogget steps in and adds his power to the binding and helps to save the world.]]

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* {{Magnificent Bastard}}: Depending on either your opinion of Mogget, or where you are in the series. Mogget does [[CharacterDevelopment get better]], mostly over the course of the third book. But even though Mogget can be quite caustic when he is criticizing the plans and plots of several characters, or griping about his slavery or the incompetency of his keepers, he both does his part when crisis strikes and sometimes does things that are not required of him. [[spoiler: And at the very end, when those who are standing in for the original Seven are just about to falter, Mogget steps in and adds his power to the binding and helps to save the world.]]
10th Jan '16 7:22:18 PM darkabomination
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* AwesomenessWithdrawal: The books are beloved by those that have read them, but the long gaps in installments prevent the fanbase from being too enthusiastic about the series in general.
3rd Oct '15 11:50:35 AM JustCause
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* BaseBreaker: Clariel. Some people love her as one of the few examples of an Asexual in literature and find her realistically flawed and her StartOfDarkness plausible. Other readers find her flaws unsympathetic and frustrating to read. It doesn't help that she's very different from Sabriel and Lirael.
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