History YMMV / NineInchNails

2nd Feb '17 8:45:59 AM Black_Diesel
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: All of his albums have gone through this on some level, particularly more recent ones. Apparently, now that he's gotten clean, is [[BabiesEverAfter married with two kids]], is, in his own words, the happiest he's ever been, and his music isn't as full of {{angst}} as it once was, Trent's lost his mojo, which carries some UnfortunateImplications.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: All of his albums have gone through this on some level, particularly more recent ones. Apparently, now that he's gotten clean, is [[BabiesEverAfter married with two four kids]], is, in his own words, the happiest he's ever been, and his music isn't as full of {{angst}} as it once was, Trent's lost his mojo, which carries some UnfortunateImplications.
6th Jan '17 11:48:06 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight: Some fans interpret the gun imagery in ''Music/TheDownwardSpiral'' as this.
** The "Closer" video was purposefully filled with plenty of references to this trope.
--->'''Mark Romanek, the director''': "I like how the front of [the microphone] looks like a little nipple."
25th Dec '16 12:33:48 PM CassandraLeo
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* WinBackTheCrowd: A number of NIN's recent releases had received mixed reception from fans. ''Not the Actual Events'' has been almost universally beloved.
13th Jul '16 9:21:18 AM wyattte
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: If you can get past the melodrama, quite a bit. Most fans admit that lyrics can enter the state of {{narm}} fairly frequently, (the chorus of "Where is Everybody?," especially) but state that the music itself more than makes up for it.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: If you can get past the melodrama, quite a bit. Most fans admit that lyrics can enter the state of {{narm}} fairly frequently, (the chorus of "Where is Everybody?," especially) but state that the music itself more than makes up for it. There's enough great, fascinating music that [[AwesomeMusic/NineInchNails it now has its own page.]]



** [[ChorusOnlySong I WANNA FUCK YOU LIKE AN ANIMAL!]]

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** [[ChorusOnlySong I "I WANNA FUCK YOU LIKE AN ANIMAL!]]ANIMAL!"]]



* {{Narm}}: "Closer", mainly because of the chorus.

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* {{Narm}}: Trent is a tremendous producer and composer, but even fans know how his lyrics can fall into {{Wangst}} sometimes:
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"Closer", mainly because of the chorus.



** "I've got my arms A FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP! I got my head on a shpriiinga."
** "AWITHATEETHA"

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** "Getting Smaller" has this weird mid-verse flip-out: "I've got my arms A FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP FLIP! I got my head on a shpriiinga."
** "AWITHATEETHA""AWITHATEETHA!"
** "That's What I Get": "How can you turn me into this? After you just taught me how to kiss... youuuuu?"



* SecondVerseCurse: "Closer".

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* SecondVerseCurse: "Closer"."Closer," "Head Like A Hole."
4th Jun '16 12:18:38 AM bt8257
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* FriendlyFandoms: As of late, the NIN fanbase is crossing roads with the fanbase of '''Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge''', of all bands. Why? Trent Reznor has collaborated with QOTSA for their latest effort, ''...Like Clockwork'', and the two bands have toured extensively across Australasia.

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* FriendlyFandoms: As of late, the NIN fanbase is crossing roads with the fanbase of '''Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge''', of all bands. Why? Trent Reznor has collaborated with QOTSA them for their latest effort, ''...Like Clockwork'', and the two bands have toured extensively across Australasia.



* FridgeBrilliance: "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" both have the same tempo (100 BPM) and similar melodies. It could be chalked up to coincidence if not for the fact that "Big Man with a Gun" is the moment where the protagonist becomes fully corrupted and seemingly irredeemable -- the very thing foreshadowed in "Mr. Self Destruct". Also, "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" open and close the first 'section' of the album (tracks 1-9, according to Trent).

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* FridgeBrilliance: "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" both have the same tempo (100 BPM) and similar melodies. It could be chalked up to coincidence if not for the fact that "Big Man with a Gun" is the moment where the protagonist becomes fully corrupted and seemingly irredeemable -- the very thing foreshadowed in "Mr. Self Destruct". Also, "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" open and close the first 'section' of the album (tracks 1-9, 19, according to Trent).



** The chorus to "Where is Everybody?" which rhymes off words ending with "ing" and not much else.
** From "Something I Can Never Have:" "Grey would be the color, if I had a heart."

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** The chorus to "Where is Is Everybody?" which rhymes off words ending with "ing" and not much else.
** From "Something I Can Never Have:" Have": "Grey would be the color, if I had a heart."



*** "Happiness in Slavery", the most (in)famous video, shows a man stripping naked and situating himself in a device that graphically eviscerates his body (inducing both great pain and [[TooKinkyToTorture pleasure]]), including [[GroinAttack ripping off his penis]], and ends with the man being ground to provide fertilizer for a garden of some sort.

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*** "Happiness in Slavery", "HappinessInSlavery", the most (in)famous video, shows a man stripping naked and situating himself in a device that graphically eviscerates his body (inducing both great pain and [[TooKinkyToTorture pleasure]]), including [[GroinAttack ripping off his penis]], and ends with the man being ground to provide fertilizer for a garden of some sort.



* VindicatedByHistory: Fan response to ''The Fragile'' was rather lukewarm despite strong reviews, most likely because it wasn't as heavy as ''The Downward Spiral'' and didn't have a song with a chorus as [[MemeticMutation memetically popular]] as "Closer". However, a few years later fans have started to judge it on its own merits and it's now considered to be Reznor's best. Trent seems to have picked up on this.

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* VindicatedByHistory: Fan response to ''The Fragile'' was rather lukewarm despite strong reviews, most likely because it wasn't as heavy as ''The Downward Spiral'' and didn't have a song with a chorus as [[MemeticMutation memetically popular]] as "Closer". However, a few years later fans have started to judge it on its own merits and it's its now considered to be Reznor's best. Trent seems to have picked up on this.
23rd May '16 10:04:00 PM bt8257
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* BrokenBase:
** Reactions to Trent Reznor's film score work range from outright hate (much of the film score community) to hyperbolic praise (pretty much everybody else).

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* BrokenBase:
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BrokenBase: Reactions to Trent Reznor's film score work range from outright hate (much of the film score community) to hyperbolic praise (pretty much everybody else).



* ChorusOnlySong: "Closer."
* CoveredUp:
** NIN's version of "Physical" is now more famous than Music/AdamAnt's original.

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* ChorusOnlySong: "Closer."
"Closer".
* CoveredUp:
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CoveredUp: NIN's version of "Physical" is now more famous than Music/AdamAnt's original.



** "Head Like a Hole," "The Hand That Feeds," "Survivalism," and "Capital G" are bound to get stuck in any fan's head.

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** "Head Like a Hole," Hole", "The Hand That Feeds," "Survivalism," Feeds", "Survivalism", and "Capital G" are bound to get stuck in any fan's head.



* EpicRiff: "Wish," "March of the Pigs," "Starfuckers Inc.," "My Violent Heart," and "The Warning."

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* EpicRiff: "Wish," "Wish", "March of the Pigs," Pigs", "Starfuckers Inc.," ", "My Violent Heart," Heart", and "The Warning."Warning".



* FandomRivalry: With Music/{{Ministry}}. The two fanbases don't realize, however, that Trent Reznor is friends with Ministry frontman, Al Jourgensen.

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* FandomRivalry: With Music/{{Ministry}}. The two fanbases don't realize, however, that Trent Reznor is friends with Ministry frontman, frontman Al Jourgensen.



* FreudWasRight: Some fans interpret the gun imagery in ''[[ConceptAlbum The Downward Spiral]]'' as this.

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* FreudWasRight: Some fans interpret the gun imagery in ''[[ConceptAlbum The Downward Spiral]]'' ''Music/TheDownwardSpiral'' as this.



* FridgeBrilliance: "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" both have the same tempo (100 BPM) and similar melodies. It could be chalked up to coincidence if not for the fact that "Big Man with a Gun" is the moment where the protagonist becomes fully corrupted and seemingly irredeemable -- the very thing foreshadowed in "Mr. Self Destruct." Also, "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" begin and end the first 'section' of the album (tracks 1-9, according to Trent).

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* FridgeBrilliance: "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" both have the same tempo (100 BPM) and similar melodies. It could be chalked up to coincidence if not for the fact that "Big Man with a Gun" is the moment where the protagonist becomes fully corrupted and seemingly irredeemable -- the very thing foreshadowed in "Mr. Self Destruct." Destruct". Also, "Mr. Self Destruct" and "Big Man with a Gun" begin open and end close the first 'section' of the album (tracks 1-9, according to Trent).



* ItsPopularNowItSucks: Around the ''Broken'' era, NIN were gaining more popularity and some original fans decided they were getting too "mainstream."

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* ItsPopularNowItSucks: Around the ''Broken'' era, NIN were gaining more popularity and some original fans decided they were getting too "mainstream." "mainstream".



* {{Narm}}:
** "Closer," mainly because of the chorus.

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* {{Narm}}:
** "Closer,"
{{Narm}}: "Closer", mainly because of the chorus.



** From "Something I Can Never Have:" "Grey would be the colour, if I had a heart."
** The monkey noises in "Head Like a Hole."

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** From "Something I Can Never Have:" "Grey would be the colour, color, if I had a heart."
** The monkey noises in "Head Like a Hole."Hole".



** "The Downward Spiral." The detuned guitars, the flies, the screams, the ugly, clipped backing music in the distance... [[DrivenToSuicide The lyrics...]]

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** "The Downward Spiral." Spiral". The detuned guitars, the flies, the screams, the ugly, clipped backing music in the distance... [[DrivenToSuicide The lyrics...]]



* SecondVerseCurse: "Closer."
* SignatureSong: "Closer" is the top candidate, but "Head Like a Hole," "Wish," "Hurt," and "The Hand That Feeds" are also common.

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* SecondVerseCurse: "Closer."
"Closer".
* SignatureSong: "Closer" is the top candidate, but "Head Like a Hole," "Wish," "Hurt," Hole", "Wish", "Hurt", and "The Hand That Feeds" are also common.



* VindicatedByHistory: Fan response to ''The Fragile'' was rather lukewarm despite strong reviews, most likely because it wasn't as heavy as ''The Downward Spiral'' and didn't have a song with a chorus as [[MemeticMutation memetically popular]] as "Closer." However, a few years later fans have started to judge it on its own merits and it's now considered to be Reznor's best. Trent seems to have picked up on this.
--->"The Fragile is weird because when it came out it felt like everyone hated it to me, and now it feels like it's everyone's favorite album, fan-wise."

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* VindicatedByHistory: Fan response to ''The Fragile'' was rather lukewarm despite strong reviews, most likely because it wasn't as heavy as ''The Downward Spiral'' and didn't have a song with a chorus as [[MemeticMutation memetically popular]] as "Closer." "Closer". However, a few years later fans have started to judge it on its own merits and it's now considered to be Reznor's best. Trent seems to have picked up on this.
--->"The Fragile --->"''The Fragile'' is weird because when it came out it felt like everyone hated it to me, and now it feels like it's everyone's favorite album, fan-wise."



%%WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds belongs on the main page.
* WhatAnIdiot: The protagonist of ''The Downward Spiral'''s premature celebration at the end of "Ruiner." "You didn't hurt me... Nothing can hurt me... You didn't hurt me... Nothing can stop-" *cue "[[FromBadToWorse The Becoming]]"*

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%%WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds belongs on the main page.
* WhatAnIdiot: The protagonist of ''The Downward Spiral'''s premature celebration at the end of "Ruiner." "Ruiner". "You didn't hurt me... Nothing can hurt me... You didn't hurt me... Nothing can stop-" *cue "[[FromBadToWorse The Becoming]]"*
22nd Mar '16 11:21:05 AM stuffedninja
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** A big contention amongst fans are whether any of the albums Post-''With Teeth'' are as good as the ones that came before. A lot of the contention comes from the fact that the lyrical content and especially Trent's vocal style are vastly different than ''Music/TheDownwardSpiral'' and ''The Fragile''.

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** A big contention amongst among fans are is whether any of the albums Post-''With post-''With Teeth'' are as good as the ones that came before. A lot of the contention comes from the fact that the lyrical content and especially Trent's vocal style are vastly different than ''Music/TheDownwardSpiral'' and ''The Fragile''.



** Trent has a quite a bit of HoYay *and* FoeYay with protegee Marilyn Manson, much to the joy of [[YaoiFangirl Slash Fangirls]] everywhere.

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** Trent has a quite a bit of HoYay *and* FoeYay with protegee protege Marilyn Manson, much to the joy of [[YaoiFangirl Slash Fangirls]] everywhere.
22nd Mar '16 11:16:33 AM stuffedninja
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* CoveredUp: NIN's version of "Physical" is now more famous than Music/AdamAnt's original.

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* CoveredUp: CoveredUp:
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NIN's version of "Physical" is now more famous than Music/AdamAnt's original.


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* CriticalDissonance: The remix album of ''The Fragile'', ''Things Falling Apart'', was detested quite severely and harshly by critics upon release to the point where ''NME'' gave the album a bad review but then ended by giving it a 10/10 as a joke, but most NIN fans agree that the album isn't all that bad.
12th Feb '16 3:10:47 PM BronyoftheOctaves
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* TheWoobie: Trent Reznor, ''full stop''. May also veer into IronWoobie, considering he was able to keep himself sane for so many years before finding happiness.
6th Feb '16 2:27:46 PM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: Usually considered to be either ''The Downward Spiral'' or ''The Fragile''. ([=AllMusic=], on the other hand, gave their highest rating to ''Pretty Hate Machine'').



* VindicatedByHistory: Fan response to ''The Fragile'' was rather lukewarm despite strong reviews, most likely because it wasn't as heavy as ''The Downward Spiral'' and didn't have a song with a chorus as [[MemeticMutation memetically popular]] as "Closer." However, a few years later fans have started to judge it on its own merits and it's now considered to be Reznor's MagnumOpus. Trent seems to have picked up on this.

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* VindicatedByHistory: Fan response to ''The Fragile'' was rather lukewarm despite strong reviews, most likely because it wasn't as heavy as ''The Downward Spiral'' and didn't have a song with a chorus as [[MemeticMutation memetically popular]] as "Closer." However, a few years later fans have started to judge it on its own merits and it's now considered to be Reznor's MagnumOpus.best. Trent seems to have picked up on this.
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