History YMMV / NineHoursNinePersonsNineDoors

22nd Jun '16 1:04:13 PM NCZ
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** The localization is mostly excellent, but its extensive use of similes comes off as inappropriate during certain moments, such as [[spoiler:Nijisaki / "Snake"'s death, which has his corpse compared to spaghetti and pizza dough.]]
8th Jun '16 9:41:15 AM Willbyr
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* CounterpartComparison: June, to a lot of Ever17 characters. To go over which ones would be spoilers for both games.

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* CounterpartComparison: June, to a lot of Ever17 ''VisualNovel/{{Ever17}}'' characters. To go over which ones would be spoilers for both games.
15th Apr '16 1:16:43 AM NNinja
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* {{Starboarding}}: [[spoiler:Akane/Junpei]] is still a popular ship, despite [[ShipSinking the plot sinking it like the Titanic]].
19th Sep '15 11:22:53 PM crashkey
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* MemeticMutation: The Funyarinpa.[[labelnote:Explanation]]What? An explanation? You don't know about the Funyarinpa already? That's-that's practically blasphemous! Apologize to the Funyarinpa at once! ... A random word that Junpei comes up with on the spot. When the other characters don't know what he's talking about, he says more or less what you just read.[[/labelnote]]
** Upside-down sudoku.[[labelnote:Explanation (spoilers)]]The final puzzle of the game is just a sudoku puzzle, but you have to flip your DS to see it upright due to the nature of the later twists.[[/labelnote]]
10th Sep '15 12:56:48 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilOldFolks Gentarou Hongou]]]], better known by his code name [[spoiler:"Ace"]], [[FauxAffablyEvil first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally]]. This all changes after he is revealed to be the [[spoiler:[[CorruptCorporateExecutive CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical]]]] and the game's true BigBad. He created the First Nonary Game, [[WouldHurtAChild kidnapping eighteen children]] and forcing them to [[DeadlyGame commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line]], for the sake of [[spoiler:[[FreudianExcuse curing his prosopagnosia]] (inability to recognize faces)]]. He personally shoves the young Akane in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where [[ManOnFire she burns alive]], being too frightened and clueless to solve the sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, he intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues [[HeKnowsTooMuch in order to hide his identity]] and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her brother Snake how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and {{sadist}}ic man, he is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while at the same time trying to claim that [[spoiler:he is a tragic individual]].

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* CompleteMonster: [[spoiler:[[EvilOldFolks Gentarou Hongou]]]], [[spoiler:Gentarou Hongou]], better known by his code name [[spoiler:"Ace"]], [[FauxAffablyEvil first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally]]. This all changes after he is revealed to be the [[spoiler:[[CorruptCorporateExecutive CEO [[spoiler:CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical]]]] Pharmaceutical]] and the game's true BigBad. He created the First Nonary Game, [[WouldHurtAChild kidnapping eighteen children]] and forcing them to [[DeadlyGame commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line]], [[FreudianExcuse for the sake of [[spoiler:[[FreudianExcuse curing of]] [[spoiler:curing his prosopagnosia]] prosopagnosia (inability to recognize faces)]]. He personally shoves the young Akane [[spoiler:young Akane]] in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where [[ManOnFire she burns alive]], being too frightened and clueless to solve the sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, he intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues [[HeKnowsTooMuch in order to hide his identity]] and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover [[spoiler:Clover]] in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her [[spoiler:her brother Snake Snake]] how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and {{sadist}}ic man, he is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while at the same time trying to claim that [[spoiler:he is a tragic individual]].
10th Sep '15 11:02:08 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilOldFolks Gentarou Hongou]], better known by his code name "Ace", [[FauxAffablyEvil first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally]]. This all changes after he is revealed to be the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical]] and the game's true BigBad. Hongou created the First Nonary Game, [[WouldHurtAChild kidnapping eighteen children]] and forcing them to [[DeadlyGame commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line]], for the sake of [[FreudianExcuse curing his prosopagnosia]] (inability to recognize faces). He personally shoves the young Akane in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where [[ManOnFire she burns alive]], being too frightened and clueless to solve the sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, Hongou intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues [[HeKnowsTooMuch in order to hide his identity]] and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her brother Snake how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and {{sadist}}ic man, Hongou is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while at the same time trying to claim that he is a tragic individual.

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* CompleteMonster: [[EvilOldFolks [[spoiler:[[EvilOldFolks Gentarou Hongou]], Hongou]]]], better known by his code name "Ace", [[spoiler:"Ace"]], [[FauxAffablyEvil first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally]]. This all changes after he is revealed to be the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive [[spoiler:[[CorruptCorporateExecutive CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical]] Pharmaceutical]]]] and the game's true BigBad. Hongou He created the First Nonary Game, [[WouldHurtAChild kidnapping eighteen children]] and forcing them to [[DeadlyGame commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line]], for the sake of [[FreudianExcuse [[spoiler:[[FreudianExcuse curing his prosopagnosia]] (inability to recognize faces).faces)]]. He personally shoves the young Akane in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where [[ManOnFire she burns alive]], being too frightened and clueless to solve the sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, Hongou he intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues [[HeKnowsTooMuch in order to hide his identity]] and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her brother Snake how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and {{sadist}}ic man, Hongou he is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while at the same time trying to claim that he [[spoiler:he is a tragic individual.individual]].
6th Sep '15 10:38:35 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Gentarou Hongou]], better known by his codename "Ace", [[FauxAffablyEvil first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally]]. This all changes after he is revealed to be the CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical and the game's true BigBad. Hongou created the First Nonary Game, [[WouldHurtAChild kidnapping eighteen children]] and forcing them to [[DeadlyGame commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line]], for the sake of [[FreudianExcuse curing his prosopagnosia]] (inability to recognize faces). He personally shoves the young Akane in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where [[ManOnFire she burns alive]], being too frightened and clueless to solve the sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, Hongou intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues [[HeKnowsTooMuch in order to hide his identity]] and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her brother Snake how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and {{sadist}}ic man, Hongou is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while trying to claim he is a tragic individual at the same time.

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* CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive [[EvilOldFolks Gentarou Hongou]], better known by his codename code name "Ace", [[FauxAffablyEvil first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally]]. This all changes after he is revealed to be the [[CorruptCorporateExecutive CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical Pharmaceutical]] and the game's true BigBad. Hongou created the First Nonary Game, [[WouldHurtAChild kidnapping eighteen children]] and forcing them to [[DeadlyGame commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line]], for the sake of [[FreudianExcuse curing his prosopagnosia]] (inability to recognize faces). He personally shoves the young Akane in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where [[ManOnFire she burns alive]], being too frightened and clueless to solve the sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, Hongou intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues [[HeKnowsTooMuch in order to hide his identity]] and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her brother Snake how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and {{sadist}}ic man, Hongou is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while at the same time trying to claim that he is a tragic individual at the same time.individual.
6th Sep '15 10:16:10 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Gentarou Hongou]], better known by his codename "Ace", [[FauxAffablyEvil first appears as a helpful and altruistic ally]]. This all changes after he is revealed to be the CEO of Cradle Pharmaceutical and the game's true BigBad. Hongou created the First Nonary Game, [[WouldHurtAChild kidnapping eighteen children]] and forcing them to [[DeadlyGame commit numerous tasks with their lives on the line]], for the sake of [[FreudianExcuse curing his prosopagnosia]] (inability to recognize faces). He personally shoves the young Akane in an incinerator after an unsuccessful escape attempt where [[ManOnFire she burns alive]], being too frightened and clueless to solve the sudoku puzzle required to escape. In the Second Nonary Game, this time as a participant himself, Hongou intends to betray and murder everyone in exchange for their bracelets, succeeding in the Submarine Ending. First, he successfully murders his three colleagues [[HeKnowsTooMuch in order to hide his identity]] and keep his crimes from never reaching the court. He also murders Clover in the alternate Safe Ending, later taunting her brother Snake how he loved the sensation. An utterly corrupted, delusional and {{sadist}}ic man, Hongou is willing to murder anyone who stands in his way while trying to claim he is a tragic individual at the same time.
6th May '15 7:34:47 PM Leliel
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** WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: [[spoiler:Akane's own misery ended up turning her into a completely amoral mastermind willing to do anything for survival and revenge...and yet we can't hate her, after what she'd been through to begin with, and it ''was'' pretty much the only way she or anyone else could get out alive.]]
23rd Feb '15 12:16:01 PM VeryMelon
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Who is June? [[spoiler:A heroine justifiably seeking to save herself and give evildoers just desserts, or a villain willing to torture innocents and place them in fear of their lives to correct her own idiocy, possibly with an excessive taste for revenge?]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Who is June? [[spoiler:A heroine justifiably seeking to save herself and give evildoers just desserts, or a villain willing to torture innocents and place them in fear of their lives to correct her own idiocy, possibly with an excessive taste for revenge?]]



** Unless, like [[spoiler:Akane/June]], you've never [[spoiler:played Sudoku before, and aren't even entirely clear on how it ''should'' be played. In which case the "{{final boss}}" certainly starts off as frustrating]].
** Try [[spoiler: solving it following the time limit. All the other puzzles only had the titular 9 hours to solve them, save the cabin, and the freezer, which would have taken longer to expire. This is the only puzzle in which Akane had a time limit, and such a short one at that.]]



** [[spoiler: And the whole All-Ice fiasco could have easily been cut, and the game would've made as much sense. The BigLippedAlligatorMoment of it all seems slightly intentional...]]
*** Maybe slightly less so since [[spoiler: it's explained in the sequel.]]
* CargoShipping: Junpei/First Puzzle Ladder.
** Also, Junpei/Science Boy

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* CargoShipping:
** [[spoiler: And the whole All-Ice fiasco could have easily been cut, and the game would've made as much sense. The BigLippedAlligatorMoment of it all seems slightly intentional...]]
*** Maybe slightly less so since [[spoiler: it's explained in the sequel.]]
* CargoShipping:
Junpei/First Puzzle Ladder.
** Also, Junpei/Science BoyBoy.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Seven. He may seem like a ScaryBlackMan but [[spoiler:he's the guy who saved all the kids at the first time]], and [[TheUnreveal his name is never revealed.]] His brash sense of humor seems to help.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
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Seven. He may seem like a ScaryBlackMan but [[spoiler:he's the guy who saved all the kids at the first time]], and [[TheUnreveal his name is never revealed.]] His brash sense of humor seems to help.



*** GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Possibly. He's only as high as fourth according to a Japanese poll (although he does remain the most popular male character).



* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: the upbeat "love conquers all" vibe becomes FridgeHorror when you realize main character Junpei is unable to stop loving the person who effectively tortured innocents to survive and murdered those who wronged her, and who leaves him without a word. Word of God says he chases her unsuccessfully for the rest of his life.]] To be fair, [[spoiler: you can consider it an extremely bizarre form of murder in self-defense. Young Akane needed someone to connect with in the exact same situation. Junpei or Santa wasn't just going to stumble into a Nonary Game. The only future she found where Junpei was in the same proper frame of mind was one where she put him there. WordOfGod confirms that Junpei would have been willing to save a girl's life had he been asked, just the situation kind of forced it to be involuntary. And deaths surely helped Junpei be in the proper Nonary Game setting to connect with. Considering that these bastards are going to kill Young Akane if she doesn't kidnap them 9 years later and thus save herself...]]
** [[spoiler:Also, look at what Junpei does to ensure he enters Door #3 if he insists on taking that path. He certainly understands being a MagnificentBastard to get what you want, and thus is less likely to hold Akane's actions against her, especially considering she had a much more understandable reason for her actions (read: escaping imminent death and exacting vengeance on the ones who put her through hell) than Junpei did (read: possibly condemning three apparently innocent people to death because he wanted to stay with June)]].

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* EsotericHappyEnding: [[spoiler: the upbeat "love conquers all" vibe becomes FridgeHorror when you realize main character Junpei is unable to stop loving the person who effectively tortured innocents to survive and murdered those who wronged her, and who leaves him without a word. Word of God says he chases her unsuccessfully for the rest of his life.]] To be fair, [[spoiler: you can consider it an extremely bizarre form of murder in self-defense. Young Akane needed someone to connect with in the exact same situation. Junpei or Santa wasn't just going to stumble into a Nonary Game. The only future she found where Junpei was in the same proper frame of mind was one where she put him there. WordOfGod confirms that Junpei would have been willing to save a girl's life had he been asked, just the situation kind of forced it to be involuntary. And deaths surely helped Junpei be in the proper Nonary Game setting to connect with. Considering that these bastards are going to kill Young Akane if she doesn't kidnap them 9 years later and thus save herself...]]
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]]. [[spoiler:Also, look at what Junpei does to ensure he enters Door #3 if he insists on taking that path. He certainly understands being a MagnificentBastard to get what you want, and thus is less likely to hold Akane's actions against her, especially considering she had a much more understandable reason for her actions (read: escaping imminent death and exacting vengeance on the ones who put her through hell) than Junpei did (read: possibly condemning three apparently innocent people to death because he wanted to stay with June)]].



* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: This game sold much better in the States than it did in Japan.
** According to an interview about the sequel, Chunsoft analyzed that 70% of the viewers for the promotional video are English speakers. In fact, one of the reasons they greenlighted a sequel was because of the International fanbase. Germans love David Hasselhoff indeed!

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: This game sold much better in the States than it did in Japan.
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Japan. According to an interview about the sequel, Chunsoft analyzed that 70% of the viewers for the promotional video are English speakers. In fact, one of the reasons they greenlighted a sequel was because of the International fanbase. Germans love David Hasselhoff indeed!



** Except in the True ending, which finishes with the sound of a door closing. In that instance, it's less scary and more like "And that ends this story."



* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:June, a.k.a. Akane]] who masterminds the entire plot and shows a considerable ruthless streak in disposing of enemies.

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* MagnificentBastard: IronWoobie: [[spoiler:Snake...and possibly Akane, depending on your interpretation of her character.]]
* MagnificentBastard:
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[[spoiler:June, a.k.a. Akane]] who masterminds the entire plot and shows a considerable ruthless streak in disposing of enemies.



* {{Narm}}: [[spoiler:Junpei in the Safe ending, with his scream of "'''KAAAAAANNNNNNYYYYYYYYYY!'''" The pose doesn't help much, either.]]

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}}:
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[[spoiler:Junpei in the Safe ending, with his scream of "'''KAAAAAANNNNNNYYYYYYYYYY!'''" The pose doesn't help much, either.]]



* PlayerPunch: [[spoiler: Snake's (fake) death, if you chose room 5. He is one of the most awesome characters in the game, and one of the most useful.]]

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* PlayerPunch: PlayerPunch:
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[[spoiler: Snake's (fake) death, if you chose room 5. He is one of the most awesome characters in the game, and one of the most useful.]]



** That's probably [[spoiler:just for foreshadowing reasons; June is in the boiler room, and yet Santa doesn't invite her up the stairs...]]



* UngratefulBastard: In the true ending, [[spoiler:Akane uses Junpei in her plan to form a StableTimeLoop, saving her life and killing her enemies in the process, and then she simply vanishes from the face of the Earth.]] See EsotericHappyEnding above.



** IronWoobie: [[spoiler:Snake...and possibly Akane, depending on your interpretation of her character.]]

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** IronWoobie: [[spoiler:Snake...and possibly Akane, depending on your interpretation of her character.]]
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