History YMMV / Nightwing

21st Mar '18 6:40:31 PM DoctorCooper
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* BaseBreaker: Raptor, from the Rebirth series. Some like him as a villain with interesting ties to Dick's past as a friend of his mother's and a man who embraces his Romani heritage, and that he has potential as someone who wants to make Dick step out of Bruce's shadow. Others feel he's yet another character from Dick's past which has been played ''a lot'', and that his speechifying about Dick's heritage and capitalism remove the nuance from his character, and that his role as an EvilMentor could've been filled by Lincoln March, or even Earth 3's Owlman if he were to return, both of whom were killed off, the former by Raptor ''himself''. Some also take issue with his design, dubbing it "edgy [[ComicBook/HawkAndDove Hawk]]" or noting the bonnet. There are also some who see him as a bit overpowered, what with his gauntlet that literally gives him whatever he needs to win a fight, or as a discount version of Midnighter, who was off the table due to getting a miniseries.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Raptor, from the Rebirth series. Some like him as a villain with interesting ties to Dick's past as a friend of his mother's and a man who embraces his Romani heritage, and that he has potential as someone who wants to make Dick step out of Bruce's shadow. Others feel he's yet another character from Dick's past which has been played ''a lot'', and that his speechifying about Dick's heritage and capitalism remove the nuance from his character, and that his role as an EvilMentor could've been filled by Lincoln March, or even Earth 3's Owlman if he were to return, both of whom were killed off, the former by Raptor ''himself''. Some also take issue with his design, dubbing it "edgy [[ComicBook/HawkAndDove Hawk]]" or noting the bonnet. There are also some who see him as a bit overpowered, what with his gauntlet that literally gives him whatever he needs to win a fight, or as a discount version of Midnighter, who was off the table due to getting a miniseries.



** Tarantula, aka Catalina Flores. She's absolutely hated among the DC fanbase for being a petty, spiteful WomanScorned who caused the break-up of Dick and Babs, and for the controversial raping of Nightwing, which she never faced any consequences for. Made worse in that Devin Grayson tried to downplay the rape by claiming "[[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic [she] never said it was rape, just non-consensual]]". Though to the relief of fans, she was [[TakeThatScrappy arrested for Blockbuster's murder and killed off]] by Creator/GailSimone in her Comics/SecretSix run.

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** Tarantula, aka Catalina Flores. She's absolutely hated among the DC fanbase for being a petty, spiteful WomanScorned who caused the break-up of Dick and Babs, and for the controversial raping of Nightwing, which she never faced any consequences for. Made worse in that Devin Grayson tried to downplay the rape by claiming "[[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic "[[DistinctionWithoutADifference [she] never said it was rape, just non-consensual]]". Though to the relief of fans, she was [[TakeThatScrappy arrested for Blockbuster's murder and killed off]] by Creator/GailSimone in her Comics/SecretSix run.
7th Feb '18 4:56:37 PM nombretomado
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** As of the New 52, the guy can't catch a break. He inherited Haley's Circus, but it's destroyed by his EvilFormerFriend Raymond for the [[MisplacedRetribution stupidest of reasons.]] Then, after he's getting it rebuilt, TheJoker then decides to blow it up and poison everyone, the result being a lot of people hating Dick, and him not being able to rebuild it because he put all his money into it. ''Then'', he finds out Tony Zucco, the man who had his parents killed, is still alive. His attempts to track him down, however, just result in a psychopath getting wind of incriminating info on the mayor of Chicago (where Dick has moved to find Zucco), which is promptly used to motivate said psycho into taking over Chicago and causing tons of death, all of which Dick blames himself for. Then ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'' happened...

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** As of the New 52, the guy can't catch a break. He inherited Haley's Circus, but it's destroyed by his EvilFormerFriend Raymond for the [[MisplacedRetribution stupidest of reasons.]] Then, after he's getting it rebuilt, TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker then decides to blow it up and poison everyone, the result being a lot of people hating Dick, and him not being able to rebuild it because he put all his money into it. ''Then'', he finds out Tony Zucco, the man who had his parents killed, is still alive. His attempts to track him down, however, just result in a psychopath getting wind of incriminating info on the mayor of Chicago (where Dick has moved to find Zucco), which is promptly used to motivate said psycho into taking over Chicago and causing tons of death, all of which Dick blames himself for. Then ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil'' happened...
29th Dec '17 4:00:21 PM nombretomado
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** "One Year Later". Jason Todd [[CostumeCopycat dressing up as Nightwing]] isn't a bad idea. And this was Jason's first appearance after the "Under the Red Hood" storyline. Instead of Dick trying to reason with his little brother we have the GirlOfTheWeek save the day after Jason is turned into a tentacle monster. ExecutiveMeddling plays a role in this. Jason Todd really was supposed to be the '''new''' Nightwing, with Dick being KilledOffForReal in InfiniteCrisis. GeoffJohns lobbied to spare Dick of this fate though, resulting in Devin Grayson scrambling with the story, along with Bruce Jones (the writer of the OYL arc).

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** "One Year Later". Jason Todd [[CostumeCopycat dressing up as Nightwing]] isn't a bad idea. And this was Jason's first appearance after the "Under the Red Hood" storyline. Instead of Dick trying to reason with his little brother we have the GirlOfTheWeek save the day after Jason is turned into a tentacle monster. ExecutiveMeddling plays a role in this. Jason Todd really was supposed to be the '''new''' Nightwing, with Dick being KilledOffForReal in InfiniteCrisis. GeoffJohns ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''. Creator/GeoffJohns lobbied to spare Dick of this fate though, resulting in Devin Grayson scrambling with the story, along with Bruce Jones (the writer of the OYL arc).
18th Sep '17 1:40:05 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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* ShipToShipCombat: The development of new love interest [[DatingCatwoman Shawn Tsang]] in Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} complicates an already contentious shipping war with both Comicbook/{{Starfire}} and [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]], both of whom have shared ShipTease with Nightwing. This is somewhat alleviated by Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} writer Tim Seeley writing both women as being understanding as opposed to petty, taking an AmicableExes approach with the former, and an IJustWantMyBelovedToBeHappy approach with the latter. That, and Shawn is already becoming something of an EnsembleDarkHorse.

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* ShipToShipCombat: The development of new love interest [[DatingCatwoman Shawn Tsang]] in Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} complicates an already contentious shipping war with both Comicbook/{{Starfire}} and [[Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} Barbara Gordon]], both of whom have shared ShipTease with Nightwing. This is somewhat alleviated by Comicbook/{{Nightwing}} writer Tim Seeley writing both women as being understanding as opposed to petty, taking an AmicableExes approach with the former, and an IJustWantMyBelovedToBeHappy approach with the latter. That, and Shawn is already becoming something of an EnsembleDarkHorse.
3rd Aug '17 11:58:02 AM StFan
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/DCComics' official position is that he's the most beloved superhero in the community (yes, even moreso than ''Superman'') and that almost any member of it would instantly drop what they were doing to help if he were in trouble. [[note]] He's technically part of the Bat family, an on-again-off-again boyfriend of the InformationBroker for the ''entire'' DCU, has connections to the JLA and JSA via both personal friendships ''and'' his leadership of the [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]]. Through Beast Boy's affiliation, he could probably get help from DoomPatrol. And the [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]] themselves are known for the "mess with one of us, mess with ''all'' of us - '''past and present'''" mentality. (Remember, their BadassCreed is "Titans Together!") Dick could probably rally ''every'' costumed hero in the DCU within three phone calls. [[/note]]

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Creator/DCComics' official position is that he's the most beloved superhero in the community (yes, even moreso than ''Superman'') and that almost any member of it would instantly drop what they were doing to help if he were in trouble. [[note]] He's technically part of the Bat family, an on-again-off-again boyfriend of the InformationBroker for the ''entire'' DCU, has connections to the JLA and JSA via both personal friendships ''and'' his leadership of the [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]]. Through Beast Boy's affiliation, he could probably get help from DoomPatrol.ComicBook/DoomPatrol. And the [[ComicBook/TeenTitans Titans]] themselves are known for the "mess with one of us, mess with ''all'' of us - '''past and present'''" mentality. (Remember, their BadassCreed is "Titans Together!") Dick could probably rally ''every'' costumed hero in the DCU within three phone calls. [[/note]]
3rd Mar '17 2:19:42 AM AlternativeCola
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** Tarantula, aka Catalina Flores. She's absolutely hated among the DC fanbase for being a petty, spiteful WomanScorned who caused the break-up of Dick and Babs, and for the controversial raping of Nightwing, which she never faced any consequences for. Made worse in that Devin Grayson tried to downplay the rape by claiming "[she] never said it was rape, just non-consensual". Though to the relief of fans, she was arrested for Blockbuster's murder and killed off by Gale Simone in her Comics/SecretSix run.

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** Tarantula, aka Catalina Flores. She's absolutely hated among the DC fanbase for being a petty, spiteful WomanScorned who caused the break-up of Dick and Babs, and for the controversial raping of Nightwing, which she never faced any consequences for. Made worse in that Devin Grayson tried to downplay the rape by claiming "[she] "[[UnintentionallyUnsympathetic [she] never said it was rape, just non-consensual". non-consensual]]". Though to the relief of fans, she was [[TakeThatScrappy arrested for Blockbuster's murder and killed off off]] by Gale Simone Creator/GailSimone in her Comics/SecretSix run.
3rd Mar '17 2:17:40 AM AlternativeCola
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3rd Mar '17 2:17:37 AM AlternativeCola
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* MyRealDaddy: BobKane is credited with creating Dick Grayson, with some credit also going to BillFinger... but Nightwing was created by MarvWolfman, who had exclusive rights to the character throughout his entire run on ''New Comicbook/TeenTitans''. Creator/ChuckDixon is then credited with developing Dick's solo career in the 1996 ''Nightwing'' title.

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* MyRealDaddy: BobKane Creator/BobKane is credited with creating Dick Grayson, with some credit also going to BillFinger... Creator/BillFinger... but Nightwing was created by MarvWolfman, Creator/MarvWolfman, who had exclusive rights to the character throughout his entire run on ''New Comicbook/TeenTitans''. Creator/ChuckDixon is then credited with developing Dick's solo career in the 1996 ''Nightwing'' title.
1st Mar '17 5:40:19 PM flyingfishcake
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** There's some divide among the fanbase over Dick's relationship with Shawn Tsang/The Defacer. Straight out the gate, there's this instant attraction between the two, to the point that they almost kiss after their third meeting and are only stopped by the arrival of the police. They get together by the end of the arc, and then the following issue shows their relationship develop over time, but with numerous time jumps, rather than letting the raeder watch it develop organically. This culminates in Dick saying he loves her. Some feel that these developments are rushed, while others think that the relationship has been depicted rather realistically. Also see: ShipToShipCombat

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** There's some divide among the fanbase over Dick's relationship with Shawn Tsang/The Defacer. Straight out the gate, there's this instant attraction between the two, to the point that they almost kiss after their third meeting and are only stopped by the arrival of the police. They get together by the end of the arc, and then the following issue shows their relationship develop over time, but with numerous time jumps, rather than letting the raeder reader watch it develop organically. This culminates in Dick saying he loves her. Some feel that these developments are rushed, while others think that the relationship has been depicted rather realistically. Also see: ShipToShipCombat
1st Mar '17 4:31:47 PM FuzzyBarbarian
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** There's some divide among the fanbase over Dick's relationship with Shawn Tsang/The Defacer. Straight out the gate, there's this instant attraction between the two, to the point that they almost kiss after their third meeting and are only stopped by the arrival of the police. They get together by the end of the arc, and then the following issue shows their relationship develop over time, culminating in Dick saying he loves her. Some feel that these developments are rushed, while others think that the relationship has been depicted rather realistically. Also see: ShipToShipCombat

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** There's some divide among the fanbase over Dick's relationship with Shawn Tsang/The Defacer. Straight out the gate, there's this instant attraction between the two, to the point that they almost kiss after their third meeting and are only stopped by the arrival of the police. They get together by the end of the arc, and then the following issue shows their relationship develop over time, culminating time, but with numerous time jumps, rather than letting the raeder watch it develop organically. This culminates in Dick saying he loves her. Some feel that these developments are rushed, while others think that the relationship has been depicted rather realistically. Also see: ShipToShipCombat
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