History YMMV / NieR

25th Apr '16 8:06:39 PM Eagal
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* TheWoobie: The main characters could all qualify. In fact, most of the cast could qualify. Hell, the ''Shades'' qualify, once you learn what they actually are.
** With everything Emil goes through you could hardly blame him if he ended up suicidally depressed, but he actually is one of the most optimistic and positive characters by the end of the game.

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* TheWoobie: The main characters could all qualify. In fact, most of the cast could qualify. Hell, the ''Shades'' qualify, once you learn what they actually are.
** With everything
Emil goes through you could hardly blame him if he ended up suicidally depressed, but he actually is one of the most optimistic and positive characters by the end of the game.game despite having a pretty shitty life, being turned into a human weapon whose only purpose is to kill his sister (another human weapon) if she goes rogue, being treated like an outcast by everyone by Kaine, Nier and Weiss once he actually finds friendship, etc.
23rd Apr '16 2:38:36 PM Eagal
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* SuperlativeDubbing: Due to its unusual localization process (which led to, among other things, the cutscenes being made with English voice actors in mind as far as mouth flaps go) and excellent voice direction, ''[=NieR=]'' is widely considered to have one of the best English dubs of any Japanese game ever. It even seems like most people prefer it over the Japanese dub. In particular, Liam O'Brien's performance as Grimoire Weiss is widely praised.
22nd Apr '16 5:59:42 PM Eagal
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* PlayerPunch: Can't get much worse than the haymaker that is the [[spoiler:forced deletion of ALL your save games you've put 30+ hours into in order to see the ending D, complete with each page of Grimoire Weiss being erased one by one, finishing it off by deleting the save files themselves.]]

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* PlayerPunch: PlayerPunch:
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Can't get much worse than the haymaker that is the [[spoiler:forced deletion of ALL your save games you've put 30+ hours into in order to see the ending D, complete with each page of Grimoire Weiss being erased one by one, finishing it off by deleting the save files themselves.]]
22nd Apr '16 5:59:10 PM Eagal
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** It would be more accurately described as [[RapidFireFisticuffs Rapid Fire]] {{Player Punch}}es. When seeing a harmless, pretty [[spoiler:flower]] on the title screen reduces even hardcore players to sobbing wrecks...
16th Apr '16 9:49:39 PM wehrmacht
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, and most people agree on that, but it might be a bit hard to sympathize with him since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the plain fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]]

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, and most people agree on that, but it might be a bit hard to sympathize with him since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the plain fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] ]]
16th Apr '16 9:46:34 PM wehrmacht
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* TrueArtIsAngsty: The game was overlooked on the whole, selling poorly in the west and greeted by mixed reviews. However, a few critics and a number of the people in the game's small fanbase consider the game unusually well-written and emotionally powerful, not just for a JRPG but as a game in general. It's also easily one of the most depressing and oppressive games in recent memory.

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* TrueArtIsAngsty: The game was overlooked on the whole, selling poorly in the west and greeted by mixed reviews. However, a few critics and a number of the people in the game's small fanbase consider the game unusually well-written and emotionally powerful, interesting, not just for a JRPG but as a game in general. It's also easily one of the most depressing and oppressive games in recent memory.
16th Apr '16 9:45:34 PM wehrmacht
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
** The Shadowlord is probably meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, but it's hard sympathize since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the plain fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] If Nier is unsympathetic for ignoring the Shades' sentience, Shadowlord is no better.
** Similarly, the Shades, which are [[spoiler: supposedly just trying to protect their friends]] are also meant to be seen as tragic, but are just not that sympathetic given that they are nearly invariably hostile and are always the ones to initiate hostilities.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is probably meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, and most people agree on that, but it's it might be a bit hard to sympathize with him since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the plain fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] If Nier is unsympathetic for ignoring the Shades' sentience, Shadowlord is no better.
** Similarly, the Shades, which are [[spoiler: supposedly just trying to protect their friends]] are also meant to be seen as tragic, but are just not that sympathetic given that they are nearly invariably hostile and are always the ones to initiate hostilities.
12th Apr '16 4:07:19 PM Eagal
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* DesignatedHero: It's revealed that Kainé, unlike Nier, is very well aware of fact that [[spoiler:Shades are sentient]], however she never drops a hint or tries to stop the merciless slaughter. It's revealed that she's trying to convince herself that they aren't human when Tyrann mocks her numerous times for killing innocent souls, and she yells at him to shut up.

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* DesignatedHero: DesignatedHero:
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It's revealed that Kainé, unlike Nier, is very well aware of fact that [[spoiler:Shades are sentient]], however she never drops a hint or tries to stop the merciless slaughter. It's revealed that she's trying to convince herself that they aren't human when Tyrann mocks her numerous times for killing innocent souls, and she yells at him to shut up.
12th Apr '16 4:06:05 PM Eagal
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is probably meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, but it's hard sympathize since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the plain fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] If Nier is unsympathetic for ignoring the Shades' sentience, Shadowlord is no better.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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The Shadowlord is probably meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, but it's hard sympathize since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the plain fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] If Nier is unsympathetic for ignoring the Shades' sentience, Shadowlord is no better.better.
** Similarly, the Shades, which are [[spoiler: supposedly just trying to protect their friends]] are also meant to be seen as tragic, but are just not that sympathetic given that they are nearly invariably hostile and are always the ones to initiate hostilities.
11th Apr '16 5:52:36 PM Eagal
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is probably meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, but it's hard sympathize since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the plain fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] If Nier is unsympathetic for ignoring the Shades' sentience, Shadowlord is no better.
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