History YMMV / NieR

26th Aug '16 5:15:58 PM trixus
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** The same holds true for [[spoiler: the other Shades who want to take the bodies of the Replicants, completely disregarding that these are sentient beings that they would be dooming to an AndIMustScream situation (as seen with the two Yonahs).]]

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** The same holds true for [[spoiler: the other Shades who want to take the bodies of the Replicants, completely disregarding that these are sentient beings that they would be dooming to an AndIMustScream situation (as seen with the two Yonahs).]] Although Grimoire Nier explains that aside the direct members of Gestalt like Noir [[spoiler: the other Shades take the bodies of consenting Replicants with androids playing mediators, the Twins simply found the process too long and less effective than having Weiss and Noir fuse.]]
26th Aug '16 5:15:58 PM trixus
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18th Aug '16 8:11:28 PM NOYB
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* IronWoobie: ''Replicant'' Nier. Both of his parents died before he was ten, but he forbids himself from mourning them in fear of making Yonah sad. Instead, he focused on earning money doing odd jobs in the village, but when Yonah became sick with the [[TheVirus Black Scrawl]], he couldn't afford her medicine. Nier eventually had to resort to prostitution to provide this (he developed a phobia of people touching his hair from these experiences, which led to him tying it up), but even then he bears it silently, believing that it's for Yonah's sake. Later on, it's even implied that [[spoiler:he killed the sex buyer in a Shade-slaying job]]. Since this is [[AllThereInTheManual never mentioned in the actual game]], you can't even tell from his general positivity that these things even happened.

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* IronWoobie: ''Replicant'' Nier. Both of his parents died before he was ten, but he forbids himself from mourning them in fear of making Yonah sad. Instead, he focused on earning money doing odd jobs in the village, but when Yonah became sick with the [[TheVirus Black Scrawl]], Scrawl, he couldn't afford her medicine. Nier eventually had to resort to prostitution to provide this (he developed a phobia of people touching his hair from these experiences, which led to him tying it up), but even then he bears it silently, believing that it's for Yonah's sake. Later on, it's even implied that [[spoiler:he killed the sex buyer in a Shade-slaying job]]. Since this is [[AllThereInTheManual never mentioned in the actual game]], you can't even tell from his general positivity that these things even happened.
18th Aug '16 12:40:10 PM Eagal
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal but it might be a bit hard to sympathize with him since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] Which kind of breaks the parallel built with Nier who may do unsavory things for Yonah, but always takes time helping people as he knows times are rough for everyone.

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The Shadowlord is meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal but it might be a bit hard to sympathize with him since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] Which kind of breaks the parallel built with Nier who may do unsavory things for Yonah, but always takes time helping people as he knows times are rough for everyone.everyone.
** The same holds true for [[spoiler: the other Shades who want to take the bodies of the Replicants, completely disregarding that these are sentient beings that they would be dooming to an AndIMustScream situation (as seen with the two Yonahs).]]
18th Aug '16 12:35:20 PM Eagal
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, and most people agree on that, but it might be a bit hard to sympathize with him since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] Which kind of breaks the parallel built with Nier who may do unsavory things for Yonah, but always takes time helping people as he knows times are rough for everyone.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The Shadowlord is meant to be seen as a tragic figure after TheReveal, and most people agree on that, TheReveal but it might be a bit hard to sympathize with him since he's putting his own desires over that of everyone else. [[spoiler: He kidnaps Yonah and implants his daughter's soul into her, despite the fact that she's a sentient being in her own right.]] Which kind of breaks the parallel built with Nier who may do unsavory things for Yonah, but always takes time helping people as he knows times are rough for everyone.
18th Aug '16 12:31:27 PM Eagal
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* GeniusBonus: [[spoiler:Got an intricate knowledge of DNA code and the celestial language? Then you might have picked up on the Black Scrawl and Shades being composed of broken strings of DNA.]]

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* GeniusBonus: [[spoiler:Got Got an intricate knowledge of DNA code and the celestial language? Then you might have picked up on the Black Scrawl and Shades being composed [[spoiler:composed of broken strings of DNA.]]
15th Aug '16 10:59:39 AM trixus
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** It's revealed that Kainé, unlike Nier, is very well aware of fact that [[spoiler:Shades are sentient]], however she never drops a hint or tries to stop the merciless slaughter. It's revealed that she's trying to convince herself that they aren't human when Tyrann mocks her numerous times for killing innocent souls, and she yells at him to shut up.

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** It's revealed that Kainé, unlike Nier, is very well aware of fact that [[spoiler:Shades are sentient]], however she never drops a hint or tries to stop the merciless slaughter. It's revealed that she's trying to convince herself that they aren't human when Tyrann mocks her numerous times for killing innocent souls, and she yells at him to shut up. To her defense the lizard shade taunted her by pretending to be a grandma early so she might not trust what the voices says.
28th Jul '16 6:51:43 AM TastySauce
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* GeniusBonus: [[spoiler:Got an intricate knowledge of DNA code and the celestial language? Then you might have picked up on the black scrawl and shades being composed of broken strings of DNA]]

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* GeniusBonus: [[spoiler:Got an intricate knowledge of DNA code and the celestial language? Then you might have picked up on the black scrawl Black Scrawl and shades Shades being composed of broken strings of DNA]]DNA.]]
28th Jun '16 6:02:54 AM longWriter
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* AnnoyingVideoGameHelper: Weiss becomes somewhat annoying during some parts of the game, such as the final phase of the battle against Wendy where he might keep repeating the same thing over and over again: he also tends to get annoying during the mandatory part of the fishing minigame by repeating the same hint over and over again instead of asking whether you're even at the right location, which is an easy mistake to make since there's a beach right next to the person who gives you the fishing equipment which is where most people would try out fishing instead of slavishly staring at the map to follow the destination marker elsewhere, only for them to end up thinking that they suck too much at the mini game to proceed since all the fish found on the beach next to the fisherman are far too strong to be caught right away.



* StopHelpingMe: Weiss becomes somewhat annoying during some parts of the game, such as the final phase of the battle against Wendy where he might keep repeating the same thing over and over again: he also tends to get annoying during the mandatory part of the fishing minigame by repeating the same hint over and over again instead of asking whether you're even at the right location, which is an easy mistake to make since there's a beach right next to the person who gives you the fishing equipment which is where most people would try out fishing instead of slavishly staring at the map to follow the destination marker elsewhere, only for them to end up thinking that they suck too much at the mini game to proceed since all the fish found on the beach next to the fisherman are far too strong to be caught right away.
23rd Jun '16 7:55:54 AM Hyttenhoof
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* GeniusBonus: [[Got an intricate knowledge of DNA code and the celestial language? Then you might have picked up on the black scrawl and shades being composed of broken strings of DNA]]

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* GeniusBonus: [[Got [[spoiler:Got an intricate knowledge of DNA code and the celestial language? Then you might have picked up on the black scrawl and shades being composed of broken strings of DNA]]
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