History YMMV / NextAvengersHeroesOfTomorrow

23rd May '17 1:21:43 AM GlitteringWolf
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*DeusExMachina: It's real convenient Hulk can beat Ultron so easily considering none of the kids come close to doing it on their own really.



* IdiotPlot: The Hulk could have solved the plot before it even began if he, or the people who refused to force him into the fight before hand, are either selfish or idiots. All of Hulk's friends are dead, their children are in danger of dying, and humanity is being tormented by a crazy robot, and he does nothing to help, despite being able to be Ultron so easily it's pathetic. He seems afraid of turning into a monster, but apparently that fear is more important than the lives of millions! If that isn't enough, the kids get him to fight rather easily by pissing him off, why didn't Tony or one of the other Avengers go to him before the situation got so bad and force him into it? Sure they have to deal with the Hulk, but at least that would have saved countless lives!

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* IdiotPlot: The Hulk could have solved the plot before it even began if began bug didn't because he, or the people who refused to force him into the fight before hand, are either selfish or idiots. All of Hulk's friends are dead, their children are in danger of dying, and humanity is being tormented by a crazy robot, and he does nothing to help, despite being able to be defeat Ultron so easily it's pathetic. He seems afraid of turning into a monster, but apparently that fear is more important than the lives of millions! If that isn't enough, the kids get him to fight rather easily by pissing him off, why didn't Tony or one of the other Avengers go to him before the situation got so bad and force him into it? Sure they have to deal with the Hulk, but at least that would have saved countless lives!
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17th Mar '17 2:07:41 AM GlitteringWolf
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* IdiotPlot: The Hulk could have solved the plot before it even began if he, or the people who refused to force him into the fight before hand, are either selfish or idiots. All of Hulk's friends are dead, their children are in danger of dying, and humanity is being tormented by a crazy robot, and he does nothing to help, despite being able to be Ultron so easily it's pathetic. He seems afraid of turning into a monster, but apparently that fear is more important than the lives of millions! If that isn't enough, the kids get him to fight rather easily by pissing him off, why didn't Tony or one of the other Avengers go to him before the situation got so bad and force him into it? Sure they have to deal with the Hulk, but at least that would have saved countless lives!
7th Feb '17 12:58:11 PM creader
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* EvilIsCool: Ultron

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* EvilIsCool: UltronUltron.
30th Jul '16 7:07:49 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* {{Narm}}[=/=]NarmCharm: Thor and Torunn's little reunion at the end.

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* {{Narm}}[=/=]NarmCharm: NarmCharm: Thor and Torunn's little reunion at the end.



* WhatAnIdiot: James Rogers. He ends up activating the Iron Avengers and giving away their location to Ultron all based on the (not quite plausible) possibility that the robots had been programmed with the exact memories and personalities of the original Avengers, hoping that at least this was the case for his dad's robot.

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* WhatAnIdiot: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: The film explains that Thor left Torunn on Earth so she would learn the same lesson he did, but it completely ignores that Thor only needed to learn it that way because his own father failed to instill it while he was growing up and went for the tough love approach to get it through. Thor makes no attempt to teach her at all and just figures she'll learn it on her own, which makes him come off as an amazingly lazy father. After all, it's not like Odin didn't have the time to raise Thor, and surely Thor could at least try given he has some understanding of where Odin's parenting style was lacking.
* WhatAnIdiot:
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James Rogers. He ends up activating the Iron Avengers and giving away their location to Ultron all based on the (not quite plausible) possibility that the robots had been programmed with the exact memories and personalities of the original Avengers, hoping that at least this was the case for his dad's robot.
1st Aug '15 4:38:44 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: ComicBook/{{Ultron}}, built by Tony Stark to assist The Avengers and bring order to the world, [[AIIsACrapshoot decided the best way to bring order was to be the one giving orders]]. This drives him to betray and murder most of The Avengers, with Iron Man barely escaping with The Avenger's children in tow. After 12 years, during which time Ultron conquered half of the planet, killing millions and driving the survivors underground, he locates Iron Man hiding out in a base in the Arctic. Smashing his way in, he confronts the children, now teenagers, and attempts to kill them for being "potential threats." The kids escape while Ultron beats down Iron Man, at which point he captures and proceeds to torture him for information regarding the kids. When the teens sneak into Ultron's HQ to rescue Tony, they stumble upon Ultron's TrophyRoom, showcasing the hundreds of signature items of [[HeroKiller superheroes he murdered over the years]]. The children later try to use The Hulk, who had been hiding out in the desert over the years, to destroy Ultron; however the machine bests him and then prepares to kill the children for possessing the "superhuman variable." While both Ultron and Stark would claim he is a creature of logic, Ultron shows through his megalomaniacal and cruel personality that this is just a poorly-veiled attempt to differentiate himself from the humans he so despises, and [[NotSoDifferent yet resembles in more ways than he'd ever admit]].
4th May '15 8:30:03 PM WJTaylor4
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Thor, who was pretty much forced to sit out the entire film for no better reason than he didn't have a big movie in 2008 while IronMan and the Hulk did.
21st Mar '15 7:01:37 PM AnoBakaDesu
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* NeedsMoreLove: A fun and action-packed film with an interesting premise and execution (Playboy Tony Stark put into a situation [via his rogue Voltron] where he has to raise the kids of his fallen comrades, and is shown having largely succeeded, all things considered) and neat characters and interaction all around, that was largely spurned when it was released and is generally seen as an obscure thing now.
19th Mar '15 12:12:24 AM TheHolotome
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* {{Narm}} / NarmCharm: Thor and Torunn's little reunion at the end.

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* {{Narm}} / NarmCharm: {{Narm}}[=/=]NarmCharm: Thor and Torunn's little reunion at the end.end.
* NeedsMoreLove: A fun and action-packed film with an interesting premise and execution (Playboy Tony Stark put into a situation [via his rogue Voltron] where he has to raise the kids of his fallen comrades, and is shown having largely succeeded, all things considered) and neat characters and interaction all around, that was largely spurned when it was released and is generally seen as an obscure thing now.
10th Dec '14 6:58:22 PM firejewel
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* {{Narm}}: Thor and Torunn's little reunion at the end.

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* {{Narm}}: {{Narm}} / NarmCharm: Thor and Torunn's little reunion at the end.
22nd Nov '14 3:23:38 PM megazilla
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* EvilIsCool: Ultron
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