History YMMV / Naruto

20th Sep '17 1:28:04 PM mrbits
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** Orochimaru is met with better reception in the west than in Japan, with many fans seeing him as far more interesting than the Uchihas.

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** Orochimaru is met with better reception in the west than in Japan, with many fans seeing him as a far more interesting villain than the Uchihas.
19th Sep '17 9:16:46 AM mrbits
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** This also happened to Karin when Sasuke sacrificing her to kill Danzo turned her into TheWoobie. Although she survived, she made it clear she didn't care about Sasuke after what he did. Not only did this remove her from the shipping equation, but she also displayed, what some fans believe, more common sense than other characters in the series. Although that fell flat when she reunites with Team Taka after that and [[EasilyForgiven easily forgives Sasuke]] after he just awkwardly mutters a "Sorry, Karin". While some found that hilarious, a lot of readers didn't take that well and quickly called her the most pathetic female character in the manga (which is saying something).
** Sakura went through this at the start of Part II due to CharacterDevelopment, [[TookALevelInBadass becoming stronger]], and becoming a [[TheMedic competent medical ninja]]. However, she quickly became TheScrappy again because she didn't really do anything significant after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her awesome fight against Sasori]]. She all but cemented her Scrappy status after her infamous [[FalseConfession fake love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, and her general crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I. However, her CoolBigSis role around both [[TwiceShy Naruto and Hinata]] in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' and [[ShipperOnDeck genuinely trying to bring them together]] did manage to regain some of her former glory that she once had at the start of Part II. Unfortunately, that ''also'' didn't last for too long, and she ultimately cemented herself as a major BaseBreakingCharacter as of ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}''.
19th Sep '17 9:13:03 AM mrbits
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** The most common homosexual options are [[BlondeBrunetteRedhead Naruto/Sasuke/Gaara]] and Ino/Sakura/Hinata.
** Obito/Rin/Kakashi was mildly popular after the team's history was given focus in ''Kakashi Gaiden''. More recent revelations such as Tobi's true identity as Obito and the [[LotusEaterMachine Moon's Eye Plan]] largely stemming from Obito seeing Rin die at Kakashi's hands ([[HeroicSacrifice long story there]], but it was actually Rin ''[[SuicideByCop impaling herself]]'' on Kakashi's Lightning Cutter) only seem to have bolstered the threesome's standing among the fandom.

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** The most common homosexual options are [[BlondeBrunetteRedhead Naruto/Sasuke/Gaara]] and Ino/Sakura/Hinata.
** Obito/Rin/Kakashi was mildly popular after the team's history was given focus in ''Kakashi Gaiden''. More recent Later revelations such as Tobi's true identity as Obito and the [[LotusEaterMachine Moon's Eye Plan]] largely stemming from Obito seeing Rin die at Kakashi's hands ([[HeroicSacrifice long story there]], but it was actually Rin ''[[SuicideByCop impaling herself]]'' on Kakashi's Lightning Cutter) only seem to have bolstered the threesome's standing among the fandom.
19th Sep '17 8:56:22 AM mrbits
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** The infamous SURPRISE BUTTSECKS panel before Sasuke fights Danzo.
19th Sep '17 8:53:16 AM mrbits
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** Who's more powerful--Itachi or Jiraiya? When Itachi said he and Kisame could have fought Jiraiya to a draw, was he telling the truth of bluffing to convince Kisame to back out of the fight? What about the fourth hokage in his prime? Where does he fit in all of this? (To further exacerbate things, [[AllThereInTheManual the databooks]] have them ''tied''...)
19th Sep '17 8:49:28 AM mrbits
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** Orochimaru and Kabuto are met with better reception in the west than they do in Japan, with many fans seeing them as far more interesting villains than the Uchihas.

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** Orochimaru and Kabuto are is met with better reception in the west than they do in Japan, with many fans seeing them him as far more interesting villains than the Uchihas.
19th Sep '17 8:44:53 AM mrbits
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* FanPreferredCouple:
** Naruto and Hinata ("[[PortmanteauCoupleName NaruHina]]"), as mentioned above. Especially in the [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff western fandom]]. It got to a point where a [[NarutoShippudenUltimateNinjaStorm2 video game adaptation]] decided that these two were "secret lovers", despite not being too much {{canon}} support at the time. Cue the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g_nRQRqXGk angry]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf2ONPAfP3s shippers]]! [[spoiler:Which got HilariousInHindsight, since they became an OfficialCouple by the end. Needless to say, fans went nuts on both sides.]]
** Minato and Kushina. Not in the sense of other potential pairings involving them (there were none), but rather of people preferring them over other ships due to being considered the best written couple in the story.
9th Sep '17 6:58:46 PM Lightysnake
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* IronWoobie: Kakashi for most of the series, till he faces Obito. Even he couldn't not let that get to him.

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* IronWoobie: IronWoobie:
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Kakashi for most Hatake is one of Konoha's strongest ninja, but is plagued inside by the death of his father and the deaths of his Sensei and best friends, Rin Nohara and Obito Uchiha, particularly after he promised Obito he'd protect Rin to the end. It got so bad that the Third Hokage assigned Kakashi away from the ANBU corps and towards teaching so he would be able to rediscover his kindness. Despite his pain, Kakashi is a consummate professional who soldiers on throughout.
** Jiraiya, who was never able to win the heart
of the series, till love of his life (until just before he faces Obito. Even died, and even then he couldn't not let never found out she returned his feelings), who lost his best friend to evil, and lives with immense guilt for failing to save the lives of his student Minato the Fourth Hokage and his teacher Hiruzen the Third Hokage. Jiraiya even says happiness is something he isn't meant for and that get his life has been a series of failures. Nevertheless, Jiraiya never stops fighting for his home, and has made it his life's mission to him.find a lasting peace in the Shinobi world. The man never, ever, ever breaks down or stops soldiering on.
3rd Sep '17 5:22:29 PM siamesecatman444
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** Sakura Haruno. First, people disliked her because she insulted Naruto ''[[KickTheDog for not having parents]]'' while she was talking to Sasuke, who knows very well what it's like to not have a family. She ''only'' starts being nicer to Naruto after [[WhatTheHellHero Sasuke called her out on her insensitivity]], and yet she continued to be ''especially'' condescending to Naruto for the rest of the series anyways. Then, she was disliked because [[WeUsedToBeFriends she broke off her friendship with Ino in the past]] for an extremely petty reason: because they both liked Sasuke. Then, she was disliked because out of Team 7, she's had by far the least characterization drive plotted into her (Naruto wants to become Hokage; Sasuke wants to avenge his clan; Sakura wants to... win Sasuke's heart?). Then, she was disliked because [[FauxActionGirl she wasn't]] [[TheLoad powerful enough]] and often let her {{fangirl}}ing over [[TheStoic Sasuke]] take away from her potential. However, when Part II started, it's revealed that she trained with Tsunade in [[TheMedic the medical arts]] and [[TookALevelInBadass became a competent ninja in her own right]] during the TimeSkip, and it looked like she was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, especially after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her fight against Sasori]]. However, people quickly disliked her again because she didn't really do anything significant afterwards. Her subsequent re-{{Chickification}}, AesopAmnesia, her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, her general crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I, and, [[NeverLiveItDown most infamously]], her [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim painfully fake]] [[FalseConfession love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], has not been very well-received by her fans, let alone by her non-fans and the more neutral fans. While she did get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap again in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'', she ultimately ended up becoming the biggest example of a BaseBreakingCharacter from ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'' onwards.

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** Sakura Haruno. First, people disliked her because she insulted Naruto ''[[KickTheDog for not having parents]]'' while she was talking to Sasuke, who knows very well what it's like to not have a family. She ''only'' starts being nicer to Naruto after [[WhatTheHellHero Sasuke called her out on her insensitivity]], and yet she continued to be ''especially'' condescending to Naruto for the rest of the series anyways. Then, she was disliked because [[WeUsedToBeFriends she broke off her friendship with Ino in the past]] for an extremely petty reason: because they both liked Sasuke. Then, she was disliked because out of Team 7, she's had by far the least characterization drive plotted into her (Naruto wants to become Hokage; Sasuke wants to avenge his clan; Sakura wants to... win Sasuke's heart?). Then, she was disliked because [[FauxActionGirl she wasn't]] [[TheLoad powerful enough]] and often let her {{fangirl}}ing over [[TheStoic Sasuke]] take away from her potential. However, when Part II started, it's revealed that she trained with Tsunade in [[TheMedic the medical arts]] and [[TookALevelInBadass became a competent ninja in her own right]] during the TimeSkip, and it looked like she was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, especially after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her fight against Sasori]]. However, people quickly disliked her again because she didn't really do anything significant afterwards. Her subsequent re-{{Chickification}}, AesopAmnesia, her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, her general crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I, and, [[NeverLiveItDown most infamously]], her [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim painfully fake]] [[FalseConfession love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], has not been very well-received by her fans, let alone by her non-fans and the more neutral fans. While she did get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap again in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'', she ultimately ended up becoming the biggest example of a BaseBreakingCharacter from ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}'' onwards.in the ''entire'' franchise.
3rd Sep '17 4:04:26 AM siamesecatman444
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** Sakura Haruno. First, people disliked her because she insulted Naruto ''[[KickTheDog for not having parents]]'' while she was talking to Sasuke, who knows very well what it's like to not have a family. She ''only'' starts being nicer to Naruto after [[WhatTheHellHero Sasuke called her out on her insensitivity]], and yet she continued to be ''especially'' condescending to Naruto for the rest of the series anyways. Then, she was disliked because [[WeUsedToBeFriends she broke off her friendship with Ino in the past]] for an extremely petty reason: because they both liked Sasuke. Then, she was disliked because out of Team 7, she's had by far the least characterization drive plotted into her (Naruto wants to become Hokage; Sasuke wants to avenge his clan; Sakura wants to... win Sasuke's heart?). Then, she was disliked because [[FauxActionGirl she wasn't]] [[TheLoad powerful enough]] and often let her {{fangirl}}ing over [[TheStoic Sasuke]] take away from her potential. However, when Part II started, it's revealed that she trained with Tsunade in [[TheMedic the medical arts]] and [[TookALevelInBadass became a competent ninja in her own right]] during the TimeSkip, and it looked like she was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, especially after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her fight against Sasori]]. However, people quickly disliked her again because she didn't really do anything significant afterwards. Her subsequent re-{{Chickification}}, AesopAmnesia, her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, her general crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I, and, [[NeverLiveItDown most infamously]], her [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim painfully fake]] [[FalseConfession love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], has not been very well-received by her fans, let alone by her non-fans and the more neutral fans. While she did get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap again in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'', she went right back to being this in ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}''.

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** Sakura Haruno. First, people disliked her because she insulted Naruto ''[[KickTheDog for not having parents]]'' while she was talking to Sasuke, who knows very well what it's like to not have a family. She ''only'' starts being nicer to Naruto after [[WhatTheHellHero Sasuke called her out on her insensitivity]], and yet she continued to be ''especially'' condescending to Naruto for the rest of the series anyways. Then, she was disliked because [[WeUsedToBeFriends she broke off her friendship with Ino in the past]] for an extremely petty reason: because they both liked Sasuke. Then, she was disliked because out of Team 7, she's had by far the least characterization drive plotted into her (Naruto wants to become Hokage; Sasuke wants to avenge his clan; Sakura wants to... win Sasuke's heart?). Then, she was disliked because [[FauxActionGirl she wasn't]] [[TheLoad powerful enough]] and often let her {{fangirl}}ing over [[TheStoic Sasuke]] take away from her potential. However, when Part II started, it's revealed that she trained with Tsunade in [[TheMedic the medical arts]] and [[TookALevelInBadass became a competent ninja in her own right]] during the TimeSkip, and it looked like she was RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap, especially after [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome her fight against Sasori]]. However, people quickly disliked her again because she didn't really do anything significant afterwards. Her subsequent re-{{Chickification}}, AesopAmnesia, her inability to kill the defected-Sasuke, her general crying and relying on Naruto again like in Part I, and, [[NeverLiveItDown most infamously]], her [[BreakHisHeartToSaveHim painfully fake]] [[FalseConfession love confession]] to Naruto in [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]], has not been very well-received by her fans, let alone by her non-fans and the more neutral fans. While she did get RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap again in ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'', she went right back to being this in ultimately ended up becoming the biggest example of a BaseBreakingCharacter from ''Manga/{{Naruto Gaiden}}''.Gaiden}}'' onwards.
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