History YMMV / NUMASeries

27th Jan '16 1:07:01 PM MagBas
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* GodModeSue: Name a protagonist or major good guy. Now try to name a single time they genuinely put a foot wrong or made a bad decision. To Cussler's credit, RuleOfCool makes this somewhat forgivable, but...
** ''Iceberg''. [[spoiler:Hunnewell's death.]] Pitt spends a good portion of the rest of the book angsting about whether he did something wrong.
** There's also his failure to [[spoiler: prevent Maeve's death]] in ''Shock Wave''.
** ''Cyclops''. Pitt agrees to help the one who insulted him for no reason (and no reward has been promised for his help). Leaves himself entagled in the flight to Cuba plot although he fully understands there's something fishy involved, because he is so tempted to search the namesake vessel he disregards safety.
** ''Inca Gold''. Pitt dives alone (which is not allowed by rules ''because'' it's too dangerous) in the sinkhole, finds his pals abducted and himself left to die in the water. Shoots the private parts of the aggressor, but leaves him alive to seek revenge later. Searches the Sea of Cortez with a very small team and no armed guards although he knows which kind of bastards are around. Flies the [=NUMA=] helicopter to the treasure mountain with most of the team leaving the ship unguarded and his crew and lover unarmed. Knows in which miserable physical state he is when he swims in the treasure cave, but wastes time taunting the criminals instead of shooting them on sight. He does [[GeneralFailure all the imaginable mistakes]], but his sheer badassery allows him to gain victory in the end.
15th Mar '14 3:44:20 PM TVRulezAgain
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* ValuesDissonance / FairForItsDay: One subplot of ''Iceberg'' (1975) involves Pitt pretending to be CampGay to get a potential enemy to underestimate him. Sandecker even asks him why he's acting like a "faggot". Incidentally, [[spoiler:the foe in question is a homophobe ([[CompleteMonster and a domestic abuser, and a CorruptCorporateExecutive, and a megalomaniac]]) and Pitt guessed that he would be when they met based on his personality. When Pitt reveals the truth, it's in the middle of beating five types of crap out of him, which is payback for the beating ''he'' got from him earlier, where he didn't break character. Also, he seems to have no problem with Kristjan becoming Kirsti, and is more concerned with the fact that she seems to have become a sociopath.]]

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* ValuesDissonance / FairForItsDay: One subplot of ''Iceberg'' (1975) involves Pitt pretending to be CampGay to get a potential enemy to underestimate him. Sandecker even asks him why he's acting like a "faggot". Incidentally, [[spoiler:the foe in question is a homophobe ([[CompleteMonster and (and a domestic abuser, and a CorruptCorporateExecutive, and a megalomaniac]]) megalomaniac) and Pitt guessed that he would be when they met based on his personality. When Pitt reveals the truth, it's in the middle of beating five types of crap out of him, which is payback for the beating ''he'' got from him earlier, where he didn't break character. Also, he seems to have no problem with Kristjan becoming Kirsti, and is more concerned with the fact that she seems to have become a sociopath.]]
8th Dec '13 3:17:24 PM Jonn
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* ValuesDissonance / FairForItsDay: One subplot of ''Iceberg'' involves Pitt pretending to be CampGay to get a potential enemy to underestimate him. Sandecker even asks him why he's acting like a "faggot". Incidentally, [[spoiler:the foe in question is a homophobe ([[CompleteMonster and a domestic abuser, and a CorruptCorporateExecutive, and a megalomaniac]]) and Pitt guessed that he would be when they met based on his personality. When Pitt reveals the truth, it's in the middle of beating five types of crap out of him. Also, he seems to have no problem with Kristjan becoming Kirsti, and is more concerned with the fact that she seems to have become a sociopath.]]

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* ValuesDissonance / FairForItsDay: One subplot of ''Iceberg'' (1975) involves Pitt pretending to be CampGay to get a potential enemy to underestimate him. Sandecker even asks him why he's acting like a "faggot". Incidentally, [[spoiler:the foe in question is a homophobe ([[CompleteMonster and a domestic abuser, and a CorruptCorporateExecutive, and a megalomaniac]]) and Pitt guessed that he would be when they met based on his personality. When Pitt reveals the truth, it's in the middle of beating five types of crap out of him.him, which is payback for the beating ''he'' got from him earlier, where he didn't break character. Also, he seems to have no problem with Kristjan becoming Kirsti, and is more concerned with the fact that she seems to have become a sociopath.]]
8th Dec '13 3:16:13 PM Jonn
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* ValuesDissonance: One subplot of ''Iceberg'' involves Pitt pretending to be CampGay to get a potential enemy to underestimate him. Sandecker even asks him why he's acting like a "faggot". Incidentally, [[spoiler:the foe in question is a homophobe, and when Pitt reveals the truth, it's in the middle of beating five types of crap out of him. Also, he seems to have no problem with Kristjan becoming Kirsti, and is more concerned with the fact that she seems to have become a sociopath.]]

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* ValuesDissonance: ValuesDissonance / FairForItsDay: One subplot of ''Iceberg'' involves Pitt pretending to be CampGay to get a potential enemy to underestimate him. Sandecker even asks him why he's acting like a "faggot". Incidentally, [[spoiler:the foe in question is a homophobe, homophobe ([[CompleteMonster and a domestic abuser, and a CorruptCorporateExecutive, and a megalomaniac]]) and Pitt guessed that he would be when they met based on his personality. When Pitt reveals the truth, it's in the middle of beating five types of crap out of him. Also, he seems to have no problem with Kristjan becoming Kirsti, and is more concerned with the fact that she seems to have become a sociopath.]]
24th Jan '13 4:33:52 PM DarkLiterati
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* HarsherInHindsight: Most notably the [[spoiler: plot to level half of Manhattan, outwards from the World Trade Center, which was thankfully foiled at the climax of ''Valhalla Rising''. This same plot may also count as TooSoon.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: Most notably the [[spoiler: plot to level half of Manhattan, outwards from the World Trade Center, which was thankfully foiled at the climax of ''Valhalla Rising''. This same plot may also count as TooSoon.]]Rising.'']]
27th Sep '12 1:54:59 AM Nautilus1
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** ''Cyclops''. Pitt agrees to help the one who insulted him for no reason (and no reward has been promised for his help). Leaves himself entagled in the flight to Cuba plot although he fully understands there's something fishy involved, because he is so tempted to search the namesake vessel he disregards safety.
22nd Sep '12 3:01:31 PM Nautilus1
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** ''Inca Gold''. Pitt dives alone (which is not allowed by rules ''because'' it's too dangerous) in the sinkhole, finds his pals abducted and himself left to die in the water. Shoots the private parts of the aggressor, but leaves him alive to seek revenge later. Searches the Sea of Cortez with a very small team and no armed guards although he knows which kind of bastards are around. Flies the [=NUMA=] helicopter to the treasure mountain with most of the team leaving the ship unguarded and his crew and lover unarmed. Knows in which miserable physical state he is when he swims in the treasure cave, but wastes time taunting the criminals instead of shooting them on sight. He does [[GeneralFailure all the imaginable mistakes]], but his sheer badassery allows him to gain victory in the end.
16th Aug '12 12:08:02 PM Wooboo
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* CriticalResearchFailure: There's a few of these scattered throughout the books, with the most egregious ones appearing in ''Atlantis Found'' and ''Trojan Odyssey''.
* GodModeSue: Name a protagonist or major good guy. Now try to name a single time they genuinely put a foot wrong or made a bad decision. To Cussler's credit, RuleOfCool makes this somewhat forgivable, but...
** ''Iceberg''. [[spoiler:Hunnewell's death.]] Pitt spends a good portion of the rest of the book angsting about whether he did something wrong.
** There's also his failure to [[spoiler: prevent Maeve's death]] in ''Shock Wave''.
* HarsherInHindsight: Most notably the [[spoiler: plot to level half of Manhattan, outwards from the World Trade Center, which was thankfully foiled at the climax of ''Valhalla Rising''. This same plot may also count as TooSoon.]]
* ValuesDissonance: One subplot of ''Iceberg'' involves Pitt pretending to be CampGay to get a potential enemy to underestimate him. Sandecker even asks him why he's acting like a "faggot". Incidentally, [[spoiler:the foe in question is a homophobe, and when Pitt reveals the truth, it's in the middle of beating five types of crap out of him. Also, he seems to have no problem with Kristjan becoming Kirsti, and is more concerned with the fact that she seems to have become a sociopath.]]
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