History YMMV / MysteryScienceTheater3000

19th Jan '18 9:59:14 PM DragonQuestZ
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* HarsherInHindsight: As if the RealitySubtext with Crow's script ordeals in ''Film/TheIncredibleMeltingMan'' episode wasn't enough, it gains yet another dimension if you think of what Bill Corbett (who later voiced Crow) went through with his pet project ''[[Film/MeetDave Starship Dave]]''…

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As if the RealitySubtext with Crow's script ordeals in ''Film/TheIncredibleMeltingMan'' episode wasn't enough, it gains yet another dimension if you think of what Bill Corbett (who later voiced Crow) went through with his pet project ''[[Film/MeetDave Starship Dave]]''…Dave]]''…
** One sketch involved the bots listing celebrity couples that were still together, and well over half of those listed had broken up by now.


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* RoboShip: With so many robots on the show, fan pairings will be this more often than not. In fact many of the jokes on this show are just plain robo shipping fuel.
7th Jan '18 6:44:27 PM AnotherGuy
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** Weinstein would reference this during CT appearances by introducing himself as "the Tom Servo you don't like as much".

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** Weinstein would reference this during CT appearances by introducing himself as "the Tom Servo you don't like as much".[[note]]Save the person who sent Kevin Murphy the "I HATE TOM SERVO'S NEW VOICE" banner.[[/note]]
7th Jan '18 6:41:57 PM AnotherGuy
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** In an interview, Hodgson stated that he ultimately decided to leave the show for the good of the show, as he knew tensions between Mallon and himself would only escalate further, causing the show to cease production prematurely. There were too many people Hodgson respected working on the show who would be devastated, financially as well as emotionally, if that happened, so Hodgson ''wanted'' the show to go on for their sakes. Which is why, in the end, Hodgson was happy that the show lasted for as long as it did without his involvement.

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** In an interview, Hodgson stated that he ultimately decided to leave the show for the good of the show, as he knew tensions between Mallon and himself would only escalate further, causing the show to cease production prematurely. There were too many people Hodgson respected working on the show who would be devastated, financially as well as emotionally, if that happened, so Hodgson ''wanted'' the show to go on for their sakes. Which is why, in the end, Hodgson was happy that the show lasted for as long as it did without his involvement. Hodgson also said the interview that had Mike been with the show earlier, he would have given the role to Mike. Instead, Mike was installed as lead writer in Season 2.
7th Jan '18 6:40:31 PM AnotherGuy
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* PeripheryDemographic: The series itself was actually surprisingly popular with younger children particularly during the Joel Era. (See WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids below.) Even though a lot of the jokes would either [[GeniusBonus go over their heads]] or probably be a bit too vulgar for their parents liking. But still a lot of the fan mail that was revealed at the end of an episode was sent in by kids still in Elementary School even though the series is more meant for Teens and Adults. This was more apparent during the early-to-mid '90s, back when the series was on Creator/ComedyCentral. When the series moved to the Sci Fi Channel in the late '90s, this was less apparent.

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* PeripheryDemographic: The series itself was actually surprisingly popular with younger children particularly during the Joel Era. (See WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids below.) Even though a lot of the jokes would either [[GeniusBonus go over their heads]] or probably be a bit too vulgar for their parents liking. But still a lot of the fan mail that was revealed at the end of an episode was sent in by kids still in Elementary School even though the series is more meant for Teens and Adults. This was more apparent during the early-to-mid '90s, back when the series was on Creator/ComedyCentral. When the series moved to the Sci Fi Channel in the late '90s, this was less apparent. Joel did call the show a "cow-town puppet show."
7th Jan '18 5:07:53 PM AnotherGuy
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** Largely averted with Bill Corbett's portrayal of Crow, who most fans grew to accept over time and in some cases even preferred to Trace Beaulieu's. It didn't hurt that by the time Corbett came on board, the fanbase was used to dealing with changes in the series, so his replacing Beaulieu wasn't as big of a deal.

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** Largely averted with Bill Corbett's portrayal of Crow, who most fans grew to accept over time and in some cases even preferred to Trace Beaulieu's. It didn't hurt that by the time Corbett came on board, the fanbase was used to dealing with changes in the series, so his replacing Beaulieu wasn't as big of a deal. If anything, Corbett tried ''too hard'' to mimic Trace's Crow, before Best Brains told him to relax and just do Crow with his own voice.
6th Jan '18 3:07:26 AM MarkLungo
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* HarsherInHindsight: As if the RealitySubtext with Crow's script ordeals in ''Film/TheIncredibleMeltingMan'' episode wasn't enough, it gains yet another dimension if you think of what Bill Corbett (who later voiced Crow) went through with his pet project ''[[MeetDave Starship Dave]]''…

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* HarsherInHindsight: As if the RealitySubtext with Crow's script ordeals in ''Film/TheIncredibleMeltingMan'' episode wasn't enough, it gains yet another dimension if you think of what Bill Corbett (who later voiced Crow) went through with his pet project ''[[MeetDave ''[[Film/MeetDave Starship Dave]]''…



* ILikedItBetterWhenItSucked: Quite a few fans responded to the first looks at the 2017 revival that it just felt wrong for the show to have a crystal clear image and more articulated puppets, after the low tech and homemade feel of the classic version. It's mostly a result of camera and puppetry technology coming a long way and being much cheaper than it was twenty years ago (you can thank Jim Henson for Tom and Crow's new radio-controlled heads). Though they do like that at least all the exterior shots retain the endearingly clunky nature of the original.

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* ILikedItBetterWhenItSucked: Quite a few fans responded to the first looks at the 2017 revival that it just felt wrong for the show to have a crystal clear image and more articulated puppets, after the low tech and homemade feel of the classic version. It's mostly a result of camera and puppetry technology coming a long way and being much cheaper than it was twenty years ago (you can thank Jim Henson Creator/JimHenson for Tom and Crow's new radio-controlled heads). Though they do like that at least all the exterior shots retain the endearingly clunky nature of the original.
6th Jan '18 3:04:49 AM MarkLungo
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** The quip in 'Prince Of Space' "Woody Allen asked me out", then a reference to Woody Allen's marriage to his stepdaughter Soon-Yi took a much darker tone after his stepdaughter Dylan accused him of having molested her.

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** The quip in 'Prince Of Space' "Woody Allen "Creator/WoodyAllen asked me out", then a reference to Woody Allen's marriage to his stepdaughter Soon-Yi took a much darker tone after his stepdaughter Dylan accused him of having molested her.
6th Jan '18 3:02:28 AM MarkLungo
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** Any film or scene set in Chicago will inevitably have a reference to the Cubs' (now ended) 108-year losing streak.

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** Any film or scene set in Chicago UsefulNotes/{{Chicago}} will inevitably have a reference to the Cubs' (now ended) 108-year losing streak.



** The Sci-Fi era took particular delight in bashing the home countries of non-American movies. Notable targets include Japan (for ''Film/InvasionOfTheNeptuneMen''), Canada (''The Final Sacrifice'', ''Zombie Nightmare''), and Britain (''Gorgo'', ''The Deadly Bees'').
** Maltese men in the episode ''Final Justice'', at least to Crow T Robot.

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** The Sci-Fi era took particular delight in bashing the home countries of non-American movies. Notable targets include Japan (for ''Film/InvasionOfTheNeptuneMen''), Canada (''The Final Sacrifice'', ''Zombie Nightmare''), (''Film/TheFinalSacrifice'', ''Film/ZombieNightmare''), and Britain (''Gorgo'', ''The Deadly Bees'').(''Film/{{Gorgo}}'', ''Film/TheDeadlyBees'').
** Maltese men in the episode ''Final Justice'', ''Film/FinalJustice'', at least to Crow T Robot.



** Joel was a lot more frustrated with being in outer space during the KTMA era and season 1. Did the situation grow on him, or was he slowly ConditionedToAcceptHorror? The same could be assumed of Mike. During his first couple seasons as host, he was often seen trying to escape the satellite, but he gave up by around Season 7. In Season 9's "Quest of the Delta Knights", Pearl gets ''infuriated'' when she sees Mike acting too accepting about being held captive in space.

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** Joel was a lot more frustrated with being in outer space during the KTMA era and season 1. Did the situation grow on him, or was he slowly ConditionedToAcceptHorror? The same could be assumed of Mike. During his first couple seasons as host, he was often seen trying to escape the satellite, but he gave up by around Season 7. In Season 9's "Quest of the Delta Knights", ''Film/QuestOfTheDeltaKnights'', Pearl gets ''infuriated'' when she sees Mike acting too accepting about being held captive in space.



** Valeria (from the movie ''Film/RobotHolocaust'') appearing on the Viewscreen in ep. 201 ''Rocketship X-M'', for seemingly no reason. Joel and the robots seem just as puzzled by her appearance as the viewers. After Valeria leaves, the incident isn't brought up again.

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** Valeria (from the movie ''Film/RobotHolocaust'') appearing on the Viewscreen in ep. 201 ''Rocketship X-M'', ''Film/RocketshipXM'', for seemingly no reason. Joel and the robots seem just as puzzled by her appearance as the viewers. After Valeria leaves, the incident isn't brought up again.
6th Jan '18 2:48:59 AM paycheckgurl
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** In ‘’At the Earth’s Core’’ one of the jokes is that the bots were hoping for the new host to be a TJ Miller type instead of Jonah, as that’s what they imagine someone who was equal parts Joel and Mike would be like. Then in late 2017 TJ Miller’s history of sexual harassment and misconduct surfaced...
28th Dec '17 2:01:27 PM nombretomado
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*** The Taliban, prior to 2001, were an obscure group on the State Department's "hostile but ineffective" crazies list - getting the gag was a GeniusBonus at that time. The Taliban were simply thought of as a RealLife version of the town leaders from ''{{Footloose}}''. ("I can't believe it, but I'm starting to agree with the Taliban Militia. Dancing should ''not'' be allowed.")

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*** The Taliban, prior to 2001, were an obscure group on the State Department's "hostile but ineffective" crazies list - getting the gag was a GeniusBonus at that time. The Taliban were simply thought of as a RealLife version of the town leaders from ''{{Footloose}}''.''Film/{{Footloose}}''. ("I can't believe it, but I'm starting to agree with the Taliban Militia. Dancing should ''not'' be allowed.")
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