History YMMV / MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E25ACanterlotWeddingPart1

13th May '16 12:34:44 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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%%* GeniusBonus: UpToEleven with [[http://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/sm22p/a_spoiler_in_the_song/ this]]. And WordOfGod says [[https://twitter.com/#!/dannyimusic/status/193926339043147777 yes, that was intentional.]]
* FourthWallMyopia: The rest of the Mane Six turing on Twilight can fall into this since, unlike audiences, they didn't get to see Twilight's flashbacks that would prove how suspiciously {{out of character|alert}} Cadance was acting. Also, the most obvious sign (different colored magic) has never been verified to be observable in-universe.

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* FourthWallMyopia: The rest of the Mane Six turing on Twilight can fall into this since, unlike audiences, they didn't get to see Twilight's flashbacks that would prove how [[OutOfCharacterAlert suspiciously out of character]] Cadance was acting. Also, the most obvious sign (different colored magic) has never been verified to be observable in-universe.
%%* GeniusBonus: UpToEleven with With [[http://www.reddit.com/r/mylittlepony/comments/sm22p/a_spoiler_in_the_song/ this]]. And WordOfGod says [[https://twitter.com/#!/dannyimusic/status/193926339043147777 yes, that was intentional.]]
* FourthWallMyopia: The rest of the Mane Six turing on Twilight can fall into this since, unlike audiences, they didn't get to see Twilight's flashbacks that would prove how suspiciously {{out of character|alert}} Cadance was acting. Also, the most obvious sign (different colored magic) has never been verified to be observable in-universe.
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13th May '16 12:28:54 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Some people think that Twilight was ''[[BrotherSisterIncest jealous]]'' instead of ProperlyParanoid towards her brother.

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** Some people think that Twilight was ''[[BrotherSisterIncest ''[[IncestSubtext jealous]]'' instead of ProperlyParanoid towards her brother.



** There's also another group that just wants both the defenders and detractors of Twilight's friends' actions to ''get over it'' and move on, since, in the long run, it's a minor plot point compared to the others that happened in the two-parter.



** The debate over Twilight's confrontation with the others likely would have caused the episodes to be OvershadowedByControversy if not for the action-packed payoff of Part 2. Many feel the others were in the wrong for dismissing her in spite of everything she had done by that point in the series to show she wouldn't make such an accusation baselessly, knowing Cadance well enough so that her suspicions should have been taken seriously, and their not giving Twilight a chance to explain herself more rationally. Others Defend them arguing Twilight has been known to FreakOut before, [[NotHelpingYourCase she wasn't acting in a way that lived down her accusations of jealousy]], and she failed to give any evidence that couldn't be rationalized away (like Cadance forgetting their SecretHandShake), giving them enough to justify their dismissal. That this gets non-to-minimaly addressed in Part 2, or since, means [[NeverLiveItDown it's not going away anytime soon]].

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** The debate over Twilight's confrontation with the others likely would have caused the episodes to be OvershadowedByControversy if not for the action-packed payoff of Part 2. Many feel the others were in the wrong for dismissing her in spite of everything she had done by that point in the series to show she wouldn't make such an accusation baselessly, knowing Cadance well enough so that her suspicions should have been taken seriously, and their not giving Twilight a chance to explain herself more rationally. Others Defend them arguing Twilight has been known to FreakOut before, [[NotHelpingYourCase she wasn't acting in a way that lived down her accusations of jealousy]], and she failed to give any evidence that couldn't be rationalized away (like Cadance forgetting their SecretHandShake), giving them enough to justify their dismissal. That this gets non-to-minimaly addressed in Part 2, or There's also those that think [[BothSidesHaveAPoint both sides were equally right/wrong]] and/or want the others to ''[[NeverLiveItDown get over it]]'', since, means [[NeverLiveItDown in the long run, it's not going away anytime soon]].a minor plot point compared to the others that happened in the two-parter and the rest of the series.



* SlowPacedBeginning: This episode focuses on building up characters that [[RememberTheNewGuy it's hard to believe we didn't hear of sooner]] and has established ones making [[WhatAnIdiot less then intelligent calls]]. These set the stage for Part 2, which had enough action and payoff to make it well received in spite of the controversial setup.

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* SlowPacedBeginning: This episode focuses on building up characters that [[RememberTheNewGuy it's hard to believe we didn't hear of sooner]] and has established ones making [[WhatAnIdiot less then intelligent calls]]. These calls]] to [[YouCantThwartStageOne set the stage for Part 2, 2]], which had enough action and payoff to make it well received in spite of the controversial setup.
3rd May '16 4:16:06 PM Redmess
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Queen Chrysalis (while disguised) dismisses Pinkies party plan as infantile and not befitting a royal wedding. One can't help but agree.
3rd May '16 4:02:00 PM Redmess
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** Why DID Shining Armour wait so long to tell Twilight about his wedding, and why is he being so evasive about it? Is this a hint that he does not really care as much about her as she thinks?
2nd May '16 6:46:17 AM Berrenta
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* ItGetsBetter: This episode focuses on building up characters that [[RememberTheNewGuy it's hard to believe we didn't hear of sooner]] and has established ones making [[WhatAnIdiot less then intelligent calls]]. These set the stage for Part 2, which had enough action and payoff to make it well received in spite of the controversial setup.


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* SlowPacedBeginning: This episode focuses on building up characters that [[RememberTheNewGuy it's hard to believe we didn't hear of sooner]] and has established ones making [[WhatAnIdiot less then intelligent calls]]. These set the stage for Part 2, which had enough action and payoff to make it well received in spite of the controversial setup.
16th Mar '16 4:41:44 PM Josef5678
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* AccidentalAesop: Don't ignore someone's bad behavior that occurs in private just because they make your family member happy.
** Likewise, don't just frantically accuse someone without sufficient proof.

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* AccidentalAesop: AccidentalAesop:
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Don't ignore someone's bad behavior that occurs in private just because they make your family member happy.
** Likewise, don't Don't just frantically accuse someone without sufficient proof.
16th Mar '16 7:58:26 AM Peridonyx
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** Likewise, don't just frantically accuse someone without sufficient proof.
15th Feb '16 7:01:43 AM MsCC93
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** There's also another group that just wants both the defenders and detractors of Twilight's friends' actions to ''get over it'' and move on, since, in the long run, it's a minor plot point compared to the others that happened in the two-parter.
24th Dec '15 11:29:43 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* MarySue:
** [[BaseBreaker Cadance in some people's eyes.]] Her being an alicorn is the major argument for it but there are other factors common in "Pony Sues": a gradient color scheme, royalty, looked up to and admired by main characters (Twilight Sparkle has admired her since childhood), becoming adored by everypony without any effort which she does once released and able to take part in her wedding preparations, having powers not previously indicated by the show (not a major offender but it is common to such characters), and having the big day-saving scene center around her actions. On the other hand, the following episode showed that she was soundly defeated by the Hive Queen and is now nigh-powerless, and also decidedly NOT any more perfect than any other character.
** In-universe, Imposter Cadance is a Grade-A JerkSue; Twilight can't understand why her friends are defending Imposter Cadance's ridiculing their passions and what her brother sees in her.
24th Nov '15 6:40:16 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The debate over Twilight's confrontation with the others likely would have caused the episodes to be OvershadowedByControversy if not for the action-packed payoff of Part 2. Many feel the others were in the wrong for dismissing her in spite of everything she had done by that point in the series to show she wouldn't make such an accusation baselessly, knowing Cadance well enough so that her suspicions should have been taken seriously, and their not giving Twilight a chance to explain herself more rational. Others Defend them arguing Twilight has been known to FreakOut before, [[NotHelpingYourCase she wasn't acting in a way that lived down her accusations of jealousy]], and she failing to give any evidence that couldn't be rationalized away (like Cadance forgetting their SecretHandShake), giving them enough to justify their dismissal. That this gets non-to-minimaly addressed in Part 2, or since, means [[NeverLiveItDown it's not going away anytime soon]].

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** The debate over Twilight's confrontation with the others likely would have caused the episodes to be OvershadowedByControversy if not for the action-packed payoff of Part 2. Many feel the others were in the wrong for dismissing her in spite of everything she had done by that point in the series to show she wouldn't make such an accusation baselessly, knowing Cadance well enough so that her suspicions should have been taken seriously, and their not giving Twilight a chance to explain herself more rational. rationally. Others Defend them arguing Twilight has been known to FreakOut before, [[NotHelpingYourCase she wasn't acting in a way that lived down her accusations of jealousy]], and she failing failed to give any evidence that couldn't be rationalized away (like Cadance forgetting their SecretHandShake), giving them enough to justify their dismissal. That this gets non-to-minimaly addressed in Part 2, or since, means [[NeverLiveItDown it's not going away anytime soon]].
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