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25th Jun '17 11:32:06 PM creader
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* ValuesDissonance: All over the place due to the setting, as the series largely averts PoliticallyCorrectHistory:
** Casual racism towards blacks, Jews, the Irish, Chinese, etc., a sharp divide between social classes, sexism, the treatment of homosexuals, and religious intolerance are openly on display. More progressive characters do call attention to the unfairness of it, but other characters are allowed their prejudices without losing sympathy, and these attitudes are presented as simply how the world is.
** Heroin, opium, cocaine, and other drugs are all used medicinally with nary a blink.
** Eugenics is still considered a serious science, despite having been discredited. What makes it this as well of ScienceMarchesOn is its close ties to concepts of racial and class superiority; one murder was committed by a man whose fiancée's father disapproved of their marriage because of his "lesser" pedigree. [[spoiler:Ironically, the victim reconsidered and was even going to leave the Eugenics Society.]]
17th Apr '17 7:13:38 PM LordYAM
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* CompleteMonster: [[FauxAffablyEvil James Gillies]] is Detective William Murdoch's ArchEnemy and one of the most dangerous men he's ever met. Initially coming into conflict with Murdoch after he murdered his professor as part of a way to [[ForScience test a theory of Applied Physics]], Gillies was defeated when Murdoch tricked his weak-willed partner, Robert into turning on him. After escaping the noose by bribing a dying man into taking his place, Gillies murders Robert by sawing his head off while he's still alive. He then initiates a [[CriminalMindGames twisted mind game]] with Murdoch that culminates in him [[BuriedAlive burying Julia alive]], with Murdoch only narrowly getting there in time to save her. Unfortunately, Gillies escapes and one year later [[FrameUp frames Julia]] for the murder of her husband, all as part of a plan to lure Murdoch into a SadisticChoice of either saving his own life or that of Julia. Fortunately Murdoch is able to alert his fellow officers, who arrive in time to save him before the [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]] floods the room. Finally, he arranged for several criminals to break onto the train transporting him into prison, causing chaos which he used to try to escape, all the while taunting both Murdoch and Julia that they "owe him" for killing Julia's husband and allowing them to be together. Sadistic and defined by pettiness, James Gillies is the worst that Detective Murdoch has ever faced.

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* CompleteMonster: [[FauxAffablyEvil James Gillies]] is Detective William Murdoch's ArchEnemy and one of the most dangerous men he's ever met. Initially coming into conflict with Murdoch after he murdered his professor as part of a way to [[ForScience test a theory of Applied Physics]], Gillies was defeated when Murdoch tricked his weak-willed partner, Robert into turning on him. After escaping the noose by bribing a dying man into taking his place, Gillies murders Robert by sawing his head off while he's still alive. He then initiates a [[CriminalMindGames twisted mind game]] with Murdoch that culminates in him [[BuriedAlive burying Julia alive]], with Murdoch only narrowly getting there in time to save her. Unfortunately, Gillies escapes and one year later [[FrameUp frames Julia]] for the murder of her husband, all as part of a plan to lure Murdoch into a SadisticChoice of either saving his own life or that of Julia. Fortunately Murdoch is able to alert his fellow officers, who arrive in time to save him before the [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]] floods the room. Finally, Afterwards he arranged for several criminals to break onto the train transporting him into prison, causing chaos which he used to try to escape, all the while taunting both Murdoch and Julia that they "owe him" for killing Julia's husband and allowing them to be together.together. Finally he makes a final play for revenge on Murdoch that climaxed in him endangering a child Murdoch had come to care for. Sadistic and defined by pettiness, James Gillies is the worst that Detective Murdoch has ever faced.
15th Jan '17 1:23:18 PM creader
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* PoliticallyCorrectHistory: While the racial and sexual biases of the era are prominent in the background, and often inform the cases being investigated, the central characters seldom espouse them, and if so only during subplots that require introspection and are resolved by learning the corresponding 21st-century value:
** Murdoch, a Catholic, initially receives some stick from Brackenreid for being a "Papist", but this is dropped relatively early.
** Murdoch also must come to terms with Dr. Ogden's abortion, both as a moral dilemma and because she's his OneTrueLove.
** In one episode, Brackenreid worries that his son might be gay because he wants to play a female part in a play. This leads to the boy getting hurt badly in rugby trying to impress his dad. While the boy's ultimate reasoning for wanting the female role (she had more lines) is later revealed and accepted, it doesn't come before Dr. Ogden has to talk Brackenreid into accepting his son's possible sexuality. In an episode set nearly ''seventy years'' before the decriminalization of homosexuality in Canada.
** While initially not thrilled to discover that Dr. Grace is engaging in lesbianism, Brackenreid rather quickly ends up showing understanding for her.
** Justified in the cases of Dr. Ogden and Dr. Grace, as two rare female physicians and pathologists during that period. Indeed, Dr. Ogden's unabashed statements of progressive views led to marital strain during her first marriage to Dr. Garland. In later seasons, we see her start an underground women's health clinic teaching birth control (which she was briefly arrested for), and vehemently object to the MaritalRapeLicense of the period. Dr. Grace, meanwhile, [[BiTheWay engaged in a same-sex relationship]]. Both were involved in the nascent suffrage movement of the early 1900s.
*** It is pretty safe to assume that Toronto did not have two female coroners around that time, and that the men of the time would not have accepted the idea of women working in a morgue nearly as well as they do throughout this series. However, there was at least one skilled female Canadian pathologist, Maude Abbott.
*** There's also little comment on Dr. Ogden choosing a black woman to serve as her assistant, aside from one politician who was blackmailed into submission.
** In "A Merry Murdoch Christmas", Brackenreid feels guilty for having harshly told off his father as a child for having made him a Christmas present instead of buying him a toy soldier he wanted (which his father was too poor to afford). A child of English working-class parents at the time would have been well aware that his family's income was literally subsistence-level and would likely have understood why he or she was not receiving any store-bought presents, if any.
** In "The Big Chill", the term "Inuit" is used throughout the episode. The name "Eskimo" (which is considered obsolete and inappropriate in Canada today but is correct for the period) appears only once.
10th Nov '16 6:33:36 PM erracht
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** In "A Merry Murdoch Christmas", Brackenreid feels guilty for having harshly told off his father as a child for having made him a Christmas present instead of buying him a toy soldier he wanted (which his father was too poor to afford). Not only would a Victorian child, drilled to have absolute deference toward his or her parents, been highly unlikely to act in this way, but a child of English working-class parents at the time would have been well aware that his family's income was literally subsistence-level and would likely have understood why he or she was not receiving any store-bought presents, if any.

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** In "A Merry Murdoch Christmas", Brackenreid feels guilty for having harshly told off his father as a child for having made him a Christmas present instead of buying him a toy soldier he wanted (which his father was too poor to afford). Not only would a Victorian child, drilled to have absolute deference toward his or her parents, been highly unlikely to act in this way, but a A child of English working-class parents at the time would have been well aware that his family's income was literally subsistence-level and would likely have understood why he or she was not receiving any store-bought presents, if any.
10th Nov '16 6:31:55 PM erracht
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** It is pretty safe to assume that Toronto did not have two female coroners around that time, and that the men of the time would not have accepted the idea of women working in a morgue nearly as well as they do throughout this series. However, there was at least one skilled female Canadian pathologist, Maude Abbott.

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** *** It is pretty safe to assume that Toronto did not have two female coroners around that time, and that the men of the time would not have accepted the idea of women working in a morgue nearly as well as they do throughout this series. However, there was at least one skilled female Canadian pathologist, Maude Abbott.


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** In "A Merry Murdoch Christmas", Brackenreid feels guilty for having harshly told off his father as a child for having made him a Christmas present instead of buying him a toy soldier he wanted (which his father was too poor to afford). Not only would a Victorian child, drilled to have absolute deference toward his or her parents, been highly unlikely to act in this way, but a child of English working-class parents at the time would have been well aware that his family's income was literally subsistence-level and would likely have understood why he or she was not receiving any store-bought presents, if any.
30th Oct '16 7:01:26 PM danlansdowne
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*** There's also little comment on Dr. Ogden choosing a black woman to serve as her assistant, aside from one politician who was blackmailed into submission.
3rd Jul '16 2:07:26 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: James Gillies is Detective William Murdoch's ArchEnemy and one of the most dangerous men he's ever met. Initially coming into conflict with Murdoch after he murdered his professor as part of a way to [[ForScience test a theory of Applied Physics]], Gillies was defeated when Murdoch tricked his weak-willed partner, Robert into turning on him. After escaping the noose by bribing a dying man into taking his place, Gillies murders Robert by sawing his head off while he's still alive. He then initiates a [[CriminalMindGames twisted mind game]] with Murdoch that culminates in him [[BuriedAlive burying Julia alive]], with Murdoch only narrowly getting there in time to save her. Unfortunately, Gillies escapes and one year later [[FrameUp frames Julia]] for the murder of her husband, all as part of a plan to lure Murdoch into a SadisticChoice of either saving his own life or that of Julia. Fortunately Murdoch is able to alert his fellow officers, who arrive in time to save him before the [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]] floods the room. Finally, he arranged for several criminals to break onto the train transporting him into prison, causing chaos which he used to try to escape, all the while taunting both Murdoch and Julia that they "owe him" for killing Julia's husband and allowing them to be together. Sadistic and defined by pettiness, James Gillies is the worst that Detective Murdoch has ever faced.

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* CompleteMonster: [[FauxAffablyEvil James Gillies Gillies]] is Detective William Murdoch's ArchEnemy and one of the most dangerous men he's ever met. Initially coming into conflict with Murdoch after he murdered his professor as part of a way to [[ForScience test a theory of Applied Physics]], Gillies was defeated when Murdoch tricked his weak-willed partner, Robert into turning on him. After escaping the noose by bribing a dying man into taking his place, Gillies murders Robert by sawing his head off while he's still alive. He then initiates a [[CriminalMindGames twisted mind game]] with Murdoch that culminates in him [[BuriedAlive burying Julia alive]], with Murdoch only narrowly getting there in time to save her. Unfortunately, Gillies escapes and one year later [[FrameUp frames Julia]] for the murder of her husband, all as part of a plan to lure Murdoch into a SadisticChoice of either saving his own life or that of Julia. Fortunately Murdoch is able to alert his fellow officers, who arrive in time to save him before the [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]] floods the room. Finally, he arranged for several criminals to break onto the train transporting him into prison, causing chaos which he used to try to escape, all the while taunting both Murdoch and Julia that they "owe him" for killing Julia's husband and allowing them to be together. Sadistic and defined by pettiness, James Gillies is the worst that Detective Murdoch has ever faced.
3rd Jul '16 2:02:41 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: James Gillies is Detective William Murdoch's ArchEnemy and one of the most dangerous men he's ever met. Initially coming into conflict with Murdoch after murdering his professor to help [[ForScience test a theory of Applied Physics]], Gillies was defeated when Murdoch tricked his weak willed partner into turning on him. Angry at being defeated, Gillies swore revenge on Murdoch. After escaping the noose by bribing a dying man into taking his place, Gillies murders his former partner Robert by [[OffWithHisHead sawing his head off]] while he's still alive, before initiating a [[CriminalMindGames twisted mind game]] with Murdoch. This culminates in him [[BuriedAlive burying Julia alive]], with Murdoch only narrowly getting there in time to save her. Unfortunately, Gillies escapes when the wagon is overturned and falls into a river, allowing him to plot another scheme. This culminates in him [[FrameUp framing Julia]] for the murder of her husband, all as part of a plan to lure Murdoch into a DeathTrap where he will have to make a SadisticChoice. Curious to see whether Murdoch is willing to die to save the woman he loves, he sets the trap up so that either he lets Julia die or he sends the film containing Gillies's confession to the judge. Fortunately Murdoch is able to alert his fellow officers, who arrive in time to save him before [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]] floods the room. Gillies's final clash with Murdoch occurred when he arranged for several criminals to break onto the train transporting him into prison, causing chaos. Gillies taunts both Murdoch and Julia that they "owe him" for killing Julia's husband and allowing them to be together before escaping and jumping into the river. Sadistic and defined by pettiness, James Gillies is the worst that Detective Murdoch has ever faced.

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* CompleteMonster: James Gillies is Detective William Murdoch's ArchEnemy and one of the most dangerous men he's ever met. Initially coming into conflict with Murdoch after murdering he murdered his professor as part of a way to help [[ForScience test a theory of Applied Physics]], Gillies was defeated when Murdoch tricked his weak willed partner weak-willed partner, Robert into turning on him. Angry at being defeated, Gillies swore revenge on Murdoch. After escaping the noose by bribing a dying man into taking his place, Gillies murders his former partner Robert by [[OffWithHisHead sawing his head off]] off while he's still alive, before initiating alive. He then initiates a [[CriminalMindGames twisted mind game]] with Murdoch. This Murdoch that culminates in him [[BuriedAlive burying Julia alive]], with Murdoch only narrowly getting there in time to save her. Unfortunately, Gillies escapes when the wagon is overturned and falls into a river, allowing him to plot another scheme. This culminates in him one year later [[FrameUp framing frames Julia]] for the murder of her husband, all as part of a plan to lure Murdoch into a DeathTrap where he will have to make a SadisticChoice. Curious to see whether Murdoch is willing to die to save the woman he loves, he sets the trap up so that SadisticChoice of either he lets Julia die saving his own life or he sends the film containing Gillies's confession to the judge. that of Julia. Fortunately Murdoch is able to alert his fellow officers, who arrive in time to save him before the [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]] floods the room. Gillies's final clash with Murdoch occurred when Finally, he arranged for several criminals to break onto the train transporting him into prison, causing chaos. Gillies taunts chaos which he used to try to escape, all the while taunting both Murdoch and Julia that they "owe him" for killing Julia's husband and allowing them to be together before escaping and jumping into the river.together. Sadistic and defined by pettiness, James Gillies is the worst that Detective Murdoch has ever faced.
3rd Jul '16 12:28:00 PM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: James Gillies is Detective William Murdoch's ArchEnemy and one of the most dangerous men he's ever met. Initially coming into conflict with Murdoch after murdering his professor to help [[ForScience test a theory of Applied Physics]], Gillies was defeated when Murdoch tricked his weak willed partner into turning on him. Angry at being defeated, Gillies swore revenge on Murdoch. After escaping the noose by bribing a dying man into taking his place, Gillies murders his former partner Robert by [[OffWithHisHead sawing his head off]] while he's still alive, before initiating a [[CriminalMindGames twisted mind game]] with Murdoch. This culminates in him [[BuriedAlive burying Julia alive]], with Murdoch only narrowly getting there in time to save her. Unfortunately, Gillies escapes when the wagon is overturned and falls into a river, allowing him to plot another scheme. This culminates in him [[FrameUp framing Julia]] for the murder of her husband, all as part of a plan to lure Murdoch into a DeathTrap where he will have to make a SadisticChoice. Curious to see whether Murdoch is willing to die to save the woman he loves, he sets the trap up so that either he lets Julia die or he sends the film containing Gillies's confession to the judge. Fortunately Murdoch is able to alert his fellow officers, who arrive in time to save him before [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]] floods the room. Gillies's final clash with Murdoch occurred when he arranged for several criminals to break onto the train transporting him into prison, causing chaos. Gillies taunts both Murdoch and Julia that they "owe him" for killing Julia's husband and allowing them to be together before escaping and jumping into the river. Sadistic and defined by pettiness, James Gillies is the worst that Detective Murdoch has ever faced.
7th Apr '16 8:45:40 AM XFllo
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** Similarly, while initially not thrilled to discover that Dr. Grace is engaging in lesbianism, he rather quickly ends up showing understanding for her.

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** Similarly, while While initially not thrilled to discover that Dr. Grace is engaging in lesbianism, he Brackenreid rather quickly ends up showing understanding for her.



** It is pretty safe to assume that Toronto did NOT have one, let alone two female coroners around that time, and that the men of the time would not have accepted the idea of women working in a morgue nearly as well as they do throughout this series. Furthermore, this troper questions if Drs. Ogden and Grace would even have qualified for the position, as a coroner is a public official, and Canadian law at the time did not allow women to be appointed to public office.
*** Actually, there was at least one skilled female pathologist, Maude Abbott. It's also implied that both Julia and Emily have parents who are rather influential.

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** It is pretty safe to assume that Toronto did NOT not have one, let alone two female coroners around that time, and that the men of the time would not have accepted the idea of women working in a morgue nearly as well as they do throughout this series. Furthermore, this troper questions if Drs. Ogden and Grace would even have qualified for the position, as a coroner is a public official, and Canadian law at the time did not allow women to be appointed to public office.
*** Actually,
However, there was at least one skilled female Canadian pathologist, Maude Abbott. It's also implied that both Julia and Emily have parents who are rather influential.Abbott.
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