History YMMV / MoulinRouge

19th Jun '16 1:24:07 PM HazzyHaz
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** If you removed the motivation of love and happiness from the picture, and presented the events as a police report, it would describe a group of vagrants and prostitutes conning a rich buffoon into financing their production while one of their number seduces him for even more wealth and fortune. Of course, the movie makes it clear that Satine is essentially an indentured servant who cannot say no to the Duke if she wants to, but from a lawful standpoint, really what they did was swindle him.
3rd Jun '16 4:13:47 AM DarkMask
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* DesignatedHero: If you removed the motivation of love and happiness from the picture, and presented the events as a police report, it would describe a group of vagrants and prostitutes conning a rich buffoon into financing their production while one of their number seduces him for even more wealth and fortune. Of course, the movie makes it clear that Satine is essentially an indentured servant who cannot say no to the Duke if she wants to, but from a lawful standpoint, really what they did was swindle him.

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If you removed the motivation of love and happiness from the picture, and presented the events as a police report, it would describe a group of vagrants and prostitutes conning a rich buffoon into financing their production while one of their number seduces him for even more wealth and fortune. Of course, the movie makes it clear that Satine is essentially an indentured servant who cannot say no to the Duke if she wants to, but from a lawful standpoint, really what they did was swindle him.him.
** Harold Zidler in particular comes off as a rather vile character if you break down everything he does during the movie; first off he is a pimp and is in charge of selling Satine and the other Diamond Dogs to interested buyers, he bankrupts the brothel he's running due to his sick obsession with electricity (an investment that he could never hope to see a return on due to the cost of power and maintenance of such a set-up during the turn of the century), he is the mastermind behind the plan to lure the Duke in and have him bankroll the brothel's transformation into a theater, he holds Satine's dream of being a 'real actress' over her head to convince her to do what he says, he knows Satine's health is deteriorating but doesn't remove her from the show, tell the Duke, or even ''her'' until she's ready to leave the show, and he is the one who agreed to the Duke's terms to have Satine contractually bound to the Duke and handed the deed over to him. And yet, he gets a pass just because he punches the Duke at the end.
30th Jan '16 4:03:49 AM rememberthehood1941
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* NightmareFuel: ''El Tango De Roxanne'' starts to veer into this territory when the Duke realizes he's been played for a fool and prepares to rape Satine.
8th Nov '15 1:04:40 PM creativename24
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** As of 2015, we have [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVThePhantomPain a new series of Diamond Dogs.]]
16th May '15 6:33:43 AM FromtheWordsofBR
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** The Duke screaming "[[SuddenlyShouting I JUST DON'T LIKE OTHER PEOPLE TOUCHING MY THINGS]][[PunctuatedForEmphasis !!!!!!]]"

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** The Duke screaming "[[SuddenlyShouting I JUST DON'T JUST...DON'T...LIKE OTHER PEOPLE TOUCHING MY THINGS]][[PunctuatedForEmphasis !!!!!!]]"
7th May '15 8:07:55 PM MindScream
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** ...so, because she was concerned that Satine and Christian's relationship might ruin everything if things went wrong, she ''told'' The Duke, thus ensuring that things ''would'' go wrong, and a lot sooner than they might have otherwise? [[DidntThinkThisThrough What??]]
22nd Feb '15 6:49:14 AM Ciara25
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Nini might have squealed on Satine and Christian primarily out of jealousy, but she has a valid reason to be worried about their love affair causing disaster. The Duke is, after all, holding the deed to the Moulin Rouge hostage, and ''everyone's'' livelihood is at stake if things go wrong. Can you blame Nini for getting tired of helping to hide a relationship that might wreck everything the troupe's worked so hard for?

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Nini might have squealed on Satine and Christian primarily out of jealousy, but she has a valid reason to be worried about their love affair causing disaster. The Duke is, after all, holding the deed to the Moulin Rouge hostage, and ''everyone's'' livelihood is at stake if things go wrong. Can you blame Nini for getting tired sick of helping to hide hiding a relationship that might wreck everything the troupe's worked so hard for?
22nd Feb '15 6:42:02 AM Ciara25
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Nini might have squealed on Satine and Christian primarily out of jealousy, but she has a valid reason to be concerned about their love affair causing disaster. The Duke is, after all, holding the deed to the Moulin Rouge hostage, and ''everyone's'' livelihood is at stake if things go wrong. Can you blame Nini for getting fed up with helping to conceal a relationship that might wreck everything the troupe's worked so hard for?

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Nini might have squealed on Satine and Christian primarily out of jealousy, but she has a valid reason to be concerned worried about their love affair causing disaster. The Duke is, after all, holding the deed to the Moulin Rouge hostage, and ''everyone's'' livelihood is at stake if things go wrong. Can you blame Nini for getting fed up with tired of helping to conceal hide a relationship that might wreck everything the troupe's worked so hard for?
22nd Feb '15 6:37:56 AM Ciara25
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Nini might have squealed on Satine and Christian primarily out of jealousy, but she has a valid reason to be concerned about their love affair causing disaster. The Duke is, after all, holding the deed to the Moulin Rouge hostage, and ''everyone's'' livelihood is at stake if things go wrong. Can you blame Nini for getting fed up with helping to conceal a relationship that might wreck everything the troupe's worked so hard for?
15th Feb '15 9:40:18 PM helterskelter
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* DesignatedHero: Satine, Christian and the whole Circus are basically trying to seduce a rich simpleton (who granted is a {{Jerkass}}, but they neither knew nor cared about that when they started) and squeeze him for every penny in order to finance their dreams of fame and fortune. Basically, our "heroes" are little more than self-absorbed con-artists. They are only sympathetic because the Duke is an idiot who becomes increasingly unpleasant as the movie goes on, but this doesn't change the fact that they are hardly the nicest people themselves.
* EsotericHappyEnding: It's really, really hard to find the good in the situation at the film's opening: [[spoiler: Satine dead, Christian almost broken with grief, the Moulin Rouge a closed-down, decrepit ruin.]] However, the [[spoiler: absolutely ''epic'' triumph over the Duke]] implies that [[spoiler: the protagonists' ''ideals'' go on, even if they themselves are dead or scattered]].

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* DesignatedHero: Satine, Christian If you removed the motivation of love and happiness from the whole Circus are basically trying to seduce picture, and presented the events as a police report, it would describe a group of vagrants and prostitutes conning a rich simpleton (who granted is a {{Jerkass}}, but they neither knew nor cared about that when they started) and squeeze buffoon into financing their production while one of their number seduces him for every penny in order to finance their dreams of fame even more wealth and fortune. Basically, our "heroes" are little more than self-absorbed con-artists. They are only sympathetic because the Duke is an idiot who becomes increasingly unpleasant as Of course, the movie goes on, but this doesn't change the fact makes it clear that they are hardly Satine is essentially an indentured servant who cannot say no to the nicest people themselves.
* EsotericHappyEnding: It's really,
Duke if she wants to, but from a lawful standpoint, really hard to find the good in the situation at the film's opening: [[spoiler: Satine dead, Christian almost broken with grief, the Moulin Rouge a closed-down, decrepit ruin.]] However, the [[spoiler: absolutely ''epic'' triumph over the Duke]] implies that [[spoiler: the protagonists' ''ideals'' go on, even if what they themselves are dead or scattered]].did was swindle him.
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