History YMMV / MobyDick

26th May '16 9:11:23 AM Not_Kirie_Goshima
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* AmbiguouslyGay: Ahab; Ishmael mentions at one point that he seems less interested in women than anyone else on board, and while it's mentioned that he is married to a woman, he only even mentions her in passing when she is brought up by Starbuck--and in chapter 132, he even tells Starbuck that he would rather gaze into his eyes than see God (note that in the mid-19th century, religion was essentially the be-all end-all of life, so Ahab saying this carried a ''lot'' more weight than it would today).
29th Feb '16 8:49:34 AM Not_Kirie_Goshima
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* CosmicPlaything: Ahab seems to think of himself as one, or at least during some monologues.

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* CosmicPlaything: Ahab seems tends to think of see himself either as one, this or at least during some monologues.as being above all men and possible gods--there is no in-between.


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* MoralityPet: Arguably Starbuck and Pip are both this to Ahab. Unfortunately, if this is the case, they both fail dismally and Ahab loses it (or--well, loses it even more than he already had) and [[spoiler: the ship gets wrecked and everyone dies]].
2nd Feb '16 11:53:20 AM Not_Kirie_Goshima
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* CosmicPlaything: Ahab seems to think of himself as one, or at least during some monologues.
3rd Jan '16 2:22:47 AM KingClark
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Captain Ahab -- revenge-obsessed madman or TragicHero or [[MathematiciansAnswer Both.]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Captain Ahab -- revenge-obsessed madman {{revenge}}-obsessed madman, a TragicHero, or TragicHero or [[MathematiciansAnswer Both.]]both?



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4th Nov '15 8:48:51 AM TheLaughingFist
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* RootingForTheEmpire: In modern culture most people will be cheering Moby on as he kills everyone, no matter how sympathetic adaptations try to make the crew. This is because in modern times with the high intelligence of whales being well known, most people don't see Moby Dick as a remorseless monster but as an innocent victim just defending himself.
14th Aug '15 8:27:13 AM krimzonflygon2
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* AwesomeMoments: After Peleg insults Queequeg, Ishmael jumps in to defend him, but Queequeg calmly pulls him back and shows [[ImprobableAimingSkills just how skilled he is with a harpoon.]]
-->'''Queequeg''': Cap'n, ee see him small dark spot on water there? Ee see him? Well, s'pose him one whale eye! Well, den...(throws harpoon and hits the oil spot with a dead bulls-eye) Dat whale ''dead''.
11th Jul '15 6:25:57 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* TheScrappy: Ishmael in the 2011 version.
* ScienceMarchesOn: While the author was very knowledgeable about cetology, some "facts" he used have since been proven to be inaccurate.
-->"Be it known that, waiving all argument, I take the good old fashioned ground that the whale is a fish."
** More of a case of ''definitions'' march on. "Fish" originally just meant "animal that lives exclusively in water". Melville recognises that whales are warm-blooded, breathe air, and bear live young, but just doesn't think that a sufficient reason to redefine what "fish" means.
** He also mentions phrenology and physiognomy, both now considered pseudosciences.
** Chapter 105 poo-poohs the notion that whaling might endanger the whale population.

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* %%* TheScrappy: Ishmael in the 2011 version.
* ScienceMarchesOn: While the author was very knowledgeable about cetology, some "facts" he used have since been proven to be inaccurate.
-->"Be it known that, waiving all argument, I take the good old fashioned ground that the whale is a fish."
** More of a case of ''definitions'' march on. "Fish" originally just meant "animal that lives exclusively in water". Melville recognises that whales are warm-blooded, breathe air, and bear live young, but just doesn't think that a sufficient reason to redefine what "fish" means.
** He also mentions phrenology and physiognomy, both now considered pseudosciences.
** Chapter 105 poo-poohs the notion that whaling might endanger the whale population.
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11th Jul '15 6:21:40 PM SpectralTime
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** To modern readers, the three harpooneers can come across as caricatures of Africans (Daggoo), Native Americans (Tashtego) and Polynesians (Queequeg), respectively. However, Melville makes them all sympathetic characters and Ishmael frequently talks about how they're NotSoDifferent from white men.

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** To modern readers, the three harpooneers can come across as caricatures of Africans (Daggoo), Native Americans (Tashtego) and Polynesians (Queequeg), respectively. However, Melville makes them all sympathetic characters and Ishmael frequently talks about how they're NotSoDifferent from white men. In fact, he deliberately created them to ''defy'' stereotypes, with Tashtego being gloomy and fatalistic while Queequeg is cheerful and down-to-earth.
16th Aug '14 9:45:11 PM Sheora
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* ScienceMarchesOn: While the author was very knowledgeable about cetology, some "facts" he used have since been proven to be inaccurate.
-->"Be it known that, waiving all argument, I take the good old fashioned ground that the whale is a fish."
** More of a case of ''definitions'' march on. "Fish" originally just meant "animal that lives exclusively in water". Melville recognises that whales are warm-blooded, breathe air, and bear live young, but just doesn't think that a sufficient reason to redefine what "fish" means.
** He also mentions phrenology and physiognomy, both now considered pseudosciences.
** Chapter 105 poo-poohs the notion that whaling might endanger the whale population.
23rd May '14 11:20:34 AM Aquila89
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** This work in particular took several decades to attain the critical status it enjoys today.

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** This work in particular took several decades to attain the critical status it enjoys today. Melville was previously a successful author of travel books that are forgotten today; after the failure of Moby Dick, his career declined. As a literary critic noted, he's probably the only writer in history to be ruined by his one masterpiece.
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