History YMMV / MobileSuitGundamZZ

8th Jan '17 12:45:33 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: While LighterAndSofter than earlier works, ''ZZ'' still had Axis-Zeon AcePilot [[ColonelKilgore Rakan Dahkaran]], an {{expy}} of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta's]]'' Yazan Gable, who was, like his inspiration, a [[TheBrute brutal]], [[ImplacableMan nigh-unkillable]] BloodKnight with a [[IFightForTheStrongestSide tenuous grasp of personal loyalty]]. Cold-blooded and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, Rakan has no qualms about harming civilians. This is best demonstrated in Episode 35, where he [[TheStoic impassively]] [[KickTheDog guns down hospital ships and evacuation craft]] fleeing the Dublin ColonyDrop, and destroys roads and bridges in order to make sure that nobody escapes the blast radius. He kills longtime ''Gundam'' veteran Hayato Kobayashi when the latter tries to stop him, and following his defection from Haman's forces willingly kills many of his old comrades, including [[AntiVillain Mashmyre Cello]] and Royal Guardsman Lance, before being stopped by Judau. Axis's go-to guy for the dirtiest of jobs, Rakan proves that in the end, his only loyalty is to himself.

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* CompleteMonster: While LighterAndSofter than earlier works, ''ZZ'' still had Axis-Zeon AcePilot [[ColonelKilgore Rakan Dahkaran]], an {{expy}} of LighterAndSofter than earlier works, especially ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta's]]'' Zeta]]'', still has this duo:
** [[SociopathicSoldier Axis-Zeon]] AcePilot [[ColonelKilgore Rakan Dahkaran]] was an {{expy}} of ''Zeta's''
Yazan Gable, who was, and, like his inspiration, a [[TheBrute brutal]], [[ImplacableMan nigh-unkillable]] BloodKnight with a [[IFightForTheStrongestSide tenuous grasp of personal loyalty]]. Cold-blooded and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, Rakan has no qualms about harming civilians. This is best demonstrated in Episode 35, where he [[TheStoic impassively]] [[KickTheDog guns down hospital ships and evacuation craft]] fleeing the Dublin ColonyDrop, and destroys roads and bridges in order to make sure that nobody escapes the blast radius. He kills longtime ''Gundam'' veteran Hayato Kobayashi when the latter tries to stop him, and and, following his defection from Haman's forces Haman Khan's forces, willingly kills many of his old comrades, including [[AntiVillain Mashmyre Cello]] and Royal Guardsman Lance, before being stopped by Judau. Axis's go-to guy for the dirtiest of jobs, Rakan proves that in the end, his only loyalty is to himself.himself.
** While the anime version of [[TeensAreMonsters Glemmy Toto]] had enough redeeming traits to keep him off this list, the same cannot be said for [[AdaptationalVillainy his manga counterpart]], a vicious SmugSnake and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] who is bad news from his first appearance to his last. Coldly manipulating Puru, an unstable ChildSoldier, into doing his killing for him, Glemmy keeps a small army of brainwashed clones of her as backup for when she inevitably dies on him. He burns down a village to draw out [[TheProtagonist Judau Ashta]], has a defecting Puru [[WouldHurtAChild killed]] by her EvilTwin Puru-2, and eventually [[TheStarscream betrays]] [[BigBad Haman Khan]], triggering a devastating EnemyCivilWar in the process, as he aims to make himself the dictatorial ruler of both Earth and the colonies, unleashing his entire clone army in the process. Idolising the franchise’s original CM, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Gihren Zabi]], [[YouClonedHitler whose DNA]] may [[ApocalypseHitler run in his veins]], Glemmy promises to be every bit as brutal a tyrant as he was, and betrays no concern at all for the dozens of little girls who are dying to make his dream a reality.
17th Dec '16 6:32:41 PM Lionheart0
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Beecher and Mondo's ChronicBackstabbingDisorder in the early portion of the series rubbed some fans the wrong way, especially because it was often PlayedForLaughs. This is a side effect of the first half of the show being LighterAndSofter than the predecessors. As explained below, viewers tolerance for the antics of the duo was really determined by how much they liked the early tone of the series.
21st Oct '16 3:32:05 PM dlchen145
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** Haman Khan fits the trope, though her personality is significantly different from Glemmy's. While she's not quite as deceptive as Glemmy, this is mainly stylistic; she's equally skilled at politics and able to effectively play her enemies off against each other. In addition, her [[NervesOfSteel strength of will]] is beyond question; she is willing and [[{{Badass}} more than able]] to take to the battlefield when it's called for, whether on foot or in a mobile suit, and she once stood down an attacking mobile suit with bladed hands and didn't even blink. She makes it clear that her goal is to bring the Earth Sphere under her jackbooted heel, and while she doesn't win, she outlasts Glemmy's rebellion against her.

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** Haman Khan fits the trope, though her personality is significantly different from Glemmy's. While she's not quite as deceptive as Glemmy, this is mainly stylistic; she's equally skilled at politics and able to effectively play her enemies off against each other. In addition, her [[NervesOfSteel strength of will]] is beyond question; she is willing and [[{{Badass}} more than able]] able to take to the battlefield when it's called for, whether on foot or in a mobile suit, and she once stood down an attacking mobile suit with bladed hands and didn't even blink. She makes it clear that her goal is to bring the Earth Sphere under her jackbooted heel, and while she doesn't win, she outlasts Glemmy's rebellion against her.
26th Sep '16 7:22:01 PM Ramidel
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Haman's fans are divided between those who LoveToHate her and those who want to turn her into a hero, marry her, or both. She's already a highly sympathetic character, but there are those who take that too far and forget the part where she's a mass-murdering MisanthropeSupreme dictator. With the Gundam video games, this has [[RunningTheAsylum translated]] into cases of AdaptationalHeroism.
19th May '16 11:55:39 PM Trigger-of-Sorrow
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*** As of ''The Return of Johnny Ridden'', he's gone back to being an bloodthirsty AcePilot, so this definitely counts.

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*** As of ''The Return of Johnny Ridden'', he's gone back to being an a bloodthirsty AcePilot, so this definitely counts.
19th May '16 11:54:55 PM Trigger-of-Sorrow
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*** As of ''The Return of Johnny Ridden'', he's gone back to being an bloodthirsty AcePilot, so this definitely counts.
31st Mar '16 5:47:59 PM WolfThunder
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* ToughActToFollow: The show is a direct follow-up to ''Zeta''. On the other hand, it's a direct follow-up to ''Zeta.'' Needless to say, fan reactions tend to be divisive. See ContestedSequel above.

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* ToughActToFollow: The show is a direct follow-up to ''Zeta''. On the other hand, it's a direct follow-up to ''Zeta.'' Needless to say, fan reactions tend to be divisive. See ContestedSequel above.
23rd Mar '16 1:57:02 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: hile LighterAndSofter than earlier works, ''ZZ'' still had Axis-Zeon AcePilot [[ColonelKilgore Rakan Dahkaran]], an {{expy}} of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta's]]'' Yazan Gable, who was, like his inspiration, a [[TheBrute brutal]], [[ImplacableMan nigh-unkillable]] BloodKnight with a [[IFightForTheStrongestSide tenuous grasp of personal loyalty]]. Cold-blooded and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, Rakan has no qualms about harming civilians. This is best demonstrated in Episode 35, where he [[TheStoic impassively]] [[KickTheDog guns down hospital ships and evacuation craft]] fleeing the Dublin ColonyDrop, and destroys roads and bridges in order to make sure that nobody escapes the blast radius. He kills longtime ''Gundam'' veteran Hayato Kobayashi when the latter tries to stop him, and following his defection from Haman's forces willingly kills many of his old comrades, including [[AntiVillain Mashmyre Cello]] and Royal Guardsman Lance, before being stopped by Judau. Axis's go-to guy for the dirtiest of jobs, Rakan proves that in the end, his only loyalty is to himself.

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* CompleteMonster: hile While LighterAndSofter than earlier works, ''ZZ'' still had Axis-Zeon AcePilot [[ColonelKilgore Rakan Dahkaran]], an {{expy}} of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta's]]'' Yazan Gable, who was, like his inspiration, a [[TheBrute brutal]], [[ImplacableMan nigh-unkillable]] BloodKnight with a [[IFightForTheStrongestSide tenuous grasp of personal loyalty]]. Cold-blooded and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, Rakan has no qualms about harming civilians. This is best demonstrated in Episode 35, where he [[TheStoic impassively]] [[KickTheDog guns down hospital ships and evacuation craft]] fleeing the Dublin ColonyDrop, and destroys roads and bridges in order to make sure that nobody escapes the blast radius. He kills longtime ''Gundam'' veteran Hayato Kobayashi when the latter tries to stop him, and following his defection from Haman's forces willingly kills many of his old comrades, including [[AntiVillain Mashmyre Cello]] and Royal Guardsman Lance, before being stopped by Judau. Axis's go-to guy for the dirtiest of jobs, Rakan proves that in the end, his only loyalty is to himself.
23rd Mar '16 1:56:54 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: While LighterAndSofter than ''MSG'' or ''Zeta'', it still had its share of terrible people:
** Axis-Zeon AcePilot [[ColonelKilgore Rakan Dahkaran]], an {{expy}} of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta's]]'' Yazan Gable, is, like his inspiration, a [[TheBrute brutal]], [[ImplacableMan nigh-unkillable]] BloodKnight with a [[IFightForTheStrongestSide tenuous grasp of personal loyalty]], albeit with some actual command talent thrown in. Cold-blooded and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, Rakan has no qualms about harming civilians. This is best demonstrated in Episode 35, where he [[TheStoic impassively]] [[KickTheDog guns down hospital ships and evacuation craft]] fleeing the Dublin ColonyDrop, and destroys roads and bridges in order to make sure that nobody escapes the blast radius. He kills longtime ''Gundam'' veteran Hayato Kobayashi when the latter tries to stop him, and following his defection from Haman's forces willingly kills many of his old comrades, including AntiVillain Mashmyre Cello and Royal Guardsman, Lance, before being stopped by Judau. Axis's go-to guy for the dirtiest of jobs, Rakan proves that in the end, his only loyalty is to himself.
** While the anime version of [[TeensAreMonsters Glemmy Toto]] had enough redeeming traits to keep him off this list, the same cannot be said for his manga counterpart, a vicious SmugSnake and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] who is bad news from his first appearance to his last. Coldly manipulating Puru, an unstable {{child soldier}} into doing his killing for him, Glemmy keeps a small army of brainwashed clones of her as backup for when she inevitably dies on him. He burns down a village to draw out [[TheProtagonist Judau Ashta]], has a defecting Puru [[WouldHurtAChild killed]] by her EvilTwin Puru-2, and eventually [[TheStarscream betrays]] [[BigBad Haman Khan]], triggering a devastating EnemyCivilWar in the process, as he aims to make himself the dictatorial ruler of both Earth and the colonies, unleashing his entire clone army in the process. Idolising the franchise’s original CM, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Gihren Zabi]], Glemmy promises to be every bit as brutal a tyrant as he was, and betrays no concern at all for the dozens of little girls who are dying to make his dream a reality.

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* CompleteMonster: While hile LighterAndSofter than ''MSG'' or ''Zeta'', it earlier works, ''ZZ'' still had its share of terrible people:
**
Axis-Zeon AcePilot [[ColonelKilgore Rakan Dahkaran]], an {{expy}} of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta's]]'' Yazan Gable, is, who was, like his inspiration, a [[TheBrute brutal]], [[ImplacableMan nigh-unkillable]] BloodKnight with a [[IFightForTheStrongestSide tenuous grasp of personal loyalty]], albeit with some actual command talent thrown in.loyalty]]. Cold-blooded and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, Rakan has no qualms about harming civilians. This is best demonstrated in Episode 35, where he [[TheStoic impassively]] [[KickTheDog guns down hospital ships and evacuation craft]] fleeing the Dublin ColonyDrop, and destroys roads and bridges in order to make sure that nobody escapes the blast radius. He kills longtime ''Gundam'' veteran Hayato Kobayashi when the latter tries to stop him, and following his defection from Haman's forces willingly kills many of his old comrades, including AntiVillain [[AntiVillain Mashmyre Cello Cello]] and Royal Guardsman, Guardsman Lance, before being stopped by Judau. Axis's go-to guy for the dirtiest of jobs, Rakan proves that in the end, his only loyalty is to himself.
** While the anime version of [[TeensAreMonsters Glemmy Toto]] had enough redeeming traits to keep him off this list, the same cannot be said for his manga counterpart, a vicious SmugSnake and [[TheStarscream Starscream]] who is bad news from his first appearance to his last. Coldly manipulating Puru, an unstable {{child soldier}} into doing his killing for him, Glemmy keeps a small army of brainwashed clones of her as backup for when she inevitably dies on him. He burns down a village to draw out [[TheProtagonist Judau Ashta]], has a defecting Puru [[WouldHurtAChild killed]] by her EvilTwin Puru-2, and eventually [[TheStarscream betrays]] [[BigBad Haman Khan]], triggering a devastating EnemyCivilWar in the process, as he aims to make himself the dictatorial ruler of both Earth and the colonies, unleashing his entire clone army in the process. Idolising the franchise’s original CM, [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam Gihren Zabi]], Glemmy promises to be every bit as brutal a tyrant as he was, and betrays no concern at all for the dozens of little girls who are dying to make his dream a reality.
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11th Dec '15 7:19:29 PM 43110
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* MagnificentBastard: There is Glemmy Toto, who along with having [[HiddenAgendaVillain his own agenda]] and managing to keep it under wraps until the big reveal, flies up the ranks quickly in order to get close enough to Haman. And managed to [[TheCharmer charm her for a while]] too. Only to use his new status and popularity [[TheStarscream to form his own faction]], [[ManipulativeBastard giving a riling speech to the people of Zeon to motivate them to fight for his side]]. He [[NobleDemon also believed in handling things in a sophisticated manner]]. His ultimate goal is [[WellIntentionedExtremist to see Zeon united under the Zabi rule]], believing their method to be the most successful. He tried to accomplish this not only by winning the crowd over, but also [[MadScientist creating clones]] to [[TykeBomb use as military weapons]], being one of the first [[BigBad big bads]] to use clones in the ''Universal Century''. And although he was ultimately defeated by Judau and Roux, his actions did make an impact on Zeon while he was alive. And he managed to accomplish all of this ''[[TeenGenius at the mere age of seventeen]]''.

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* MagnificentBastard: There is MagnificentBastard:
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Glemmy Toto, who along with having [[HiddenAgendaVillain his own agenda]] and managing to keep it under wraps until the big reveal, flies up the ranks quickly in order to get close enough to Haman. And managed to [[TheCharmer charm her for a while]] too. Only to use his new status and popularity [[TheStarscream to form his own faction]], [[ManipulativeBastard giving a riling speech to the people of Zeon to motivate them to fight for his side]]. He [[NobleDemon also believed in handling things in a sophisticated manner]]. His ultimate goal is [[WellIntentionedExtremist to see Zeon united under the Zabi rule]], believing their method to be the most successful. He tried to accomplish this not only by winning the crowd over, but also [[MadScientist creating clones]] to [[TykeBomb use as military weapons]], being one of the first [[BigBad big bads]] to use clones in the ''Universal Century''. And although he was ultimately defeated by Judau and Roux, his actions did make an impact on Zeon while he was alive. And he managed to accomplish all of this ''[[TeenGenius at the mere age of seventeen]]''.
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