History YMMV / MobileSuitGundamWing

23rd Feb '17 6:53:15 PM 43110
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* CompleteMonster: While perhaps the [[LighterAndSofter lightest work of the series]], that can't be said about the Romefeller Foundation's [[MadScientist Chief Engineer]], [[AxCrazy Ken]] [[WarForFunAndProfit Tsubarov]]. A loud, abrasive {{jerkass}}, with NoIndoorVoice and a HairTriggerTemper, Tsubarov eventually reveals himself as a BloodKnight by proxy who enjoys watching his [[KillerRobot Mobile Dolls]] slaughter enemy soldiers, supporting [[DiscOneFinalBoss Duke Dermail]] [[PsychoSupporter in the hopes that the latter will trigger an enormous war]] for his Dolls to show off their skills. When [[TheBaroness Lady Une]], a major supporter of his project, reveals that she likes the automated Mobile Dolls because they will cut down on human casualties, Tsubarov turns on her, as he wants his Dolls to have the chance to kill people, and plenty of them. When the White Fang rebellion reaches the colonies, Tsubarov betrays Une, seizes control of the colonies, attempts to murder the captive Gundam pilots by cutting off their oxygen, and guns Une down when she tries to interfere. He proceeds to improve his Dolls, and begins construction of the KillSat[=/=][[TheBattlestar Battlestar]] ''Libra'' for his boss. When the rebels come for him, Tsubarov finally snaps, undergoes a huge VillainousBreakdown, and turns his Dolls loose on the civilian population, ranting like a madman the entire time about how, through them, he will achieve invincibility.

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While perhaps the [[LighterAndSofter lightest work of the series]], that can't be said about the Romefeller Foundation's [[MadScientist Chief Engineer]], [[AxCrazy Ken]] [[WarForFunAndProfit Tsubarov]]. A loud, abrasive {{jerkass}}, with NoIndoorVoice and a HairTriggerTemper, Tsubarov eventually reveals himself as a BloodKnight by proxy who enjoys watching his [[KillerRobot Mobile Dolls]] slaughter enemy soldiers, supporting [[DiscOneFinalBoss Duke Dermail]] [[PsychoSupporter in the hopes that the latter will trigger an enormous war]] for his Dolls to show off their skills. When [[TheBaroness Lady Une]], a major supporter of his project, reveals that she likes the automated Mobile Dolls because they will cut down on human casualties, Tsubarov turns on her, as he wants his Dolls to have the chance to kill people, and plenty of them. When the White Fang rebellion reaches the colonies, Tsubarov betrays Une, seizes control of the colonies, attempts to murder the captive Gundam pilots by cutting off their oxygen, and guns Une down when she tries to interfere. He proceeds to improve his Dolls, and begins construction of the KillSat[=/=][[TheBattlestar Battlestar]] ''Libra'' for his boss. When the rebels come for him, Tsubarov finally snaps, undergoes a huge VillainousBreakdown, and turns his Dolls loose on the civilian population, ranting like a madman the entire time about how, through them, he will achieve invincibility.
16th Jan '17 10:52:25 PM overman2099
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Gundam Wing is a pretty serious show to begin with and it gets even darker as the series progresses, with very little comedy or lightheartedness. Quatre and Duo of the main cast manage to balance things out a little since they're not as dark as the rest of their comrades but even they can only do so much in a war story filled with death and destruction.

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Gundam Wing is a pretty serious show to begin with and it gets even darker as the series progresses, with very little comedy or lightheartedness. Quatre and Duo of the main cast manage to balance things out a little since they're not as dark as the rest of their comrades but even they can only do so much in a war story filled with death and destruction. Admittedly, the show can be quite difficult to sit through if you're expecting an anime where there are plenty of humorous or lighthearted moments to balance out the more serious elements.
10th Jan '17 8:48:36 PM Angeldeb82
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** The soundtrack contains quite a few, and even those who don't like the rest of the series will concede that it has an awesome soundtrack. It helps that the whole thing, minus openings and endings, was done by Kou Otani, the award-winning composer for ''VideoGame/ShadowOfTheColossus''.
** [[Creator/MinamiTakayama Two-Mix]] performs the opening and ending themes. That can't be anything but awesome.



* CompleteMonster: While perhaps the [[LighterAndSofter lightest work of the series]], that can't be said about the Romefeller Foundation's [[MadScientist Chief Engineer]], [[AxeCrazy Ken]] [[WarForFunAndProfit Tsubarov]]. A loud, abrasive {{jerkass}}, with NoIndoorVoice and a HairTriggerTemper, Tsubarov eventually reveals himself as a BloodKnight by proxy who enjoys watching his [[KillerRobot Mobile Dolls]] slaughter enemy soldiers, supporting [[DiscOneFinalBoss Duke Dermail]] [[PsychoSupporter in the hopes that the latter will trigger an enormous war]] for his Dolls to show off their skills. When [[TheBaroness Lady Une]], a major supporter of his project, reveals that she likes the automated Mobile Dolls because they will cut down on human casualties, Tsubarov turns on her, as he wants his Dolls to have the chance to kill people, and plenty of them. When the White Fang rebellion reaches the colonies, Tsubarov betrays Une, seizes control of the colonies, attempts to murder the captive Gundam pilots by cutting off their oxygen, and guns Une down when she tries to interfere. He proceeds to improve his Dolls, and begins construction of the KillSat[=/=][[TheBattlestar Battlestar]] ''Libra'' for his boss. When the rebels come for him, Tsubarov finally snaps, undergoes a huge VillainousBreakdown, and turns his Dolls loose on the civillian population, ranting like a madman the entire time about how, through them, he will achieve invincibility.

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* CompleteMonster: While perhaps the [[LighterAndSofter lightest work of the series]], that can't be said about the Romefeller Foundation's [[MadScientist Chief Engineer]], [[AxeCrazy [[AxCrazy Ken]] [[WarForFunAndProfit Tsubarov]]. A loud, abrasive {{jerkass}}, with NoIndoorVoice and a HairTriggerTemper, Tsubarov eventually reveals himself as a BloodKnight by proxy who enjoys watching his [[KillerRobot Mobile Dolls]] slaughter enemy soldiers, supporting [[DiscOneFinalBoss Duke Dermail]] [[PsychoSupporter in the hopes that the latter will trigger an enormous war]] for his Dolls to show off their skills. When [[TheBaroness Lady Une]], a major supporter of his project, reveals that she likes the automated Mobile Dolls because they will cut down on human casualties, Tsubarov turns on her, as he wants his Dolls to have the chance to kill people, and plenty of them. When the White Fang rebellion reaches the colonies, Tsubarov betrays Une, seizes control of the colonies, attempts to murder the captive Gundam pilots by cutting off their oxygen, and guns Une down when she tries to interfere. He proceeds to improve his Dolls, and begins construction of the KillSat[=/=][[TheBattlestar Battlestar]] ''Libra'' for his boss. When the rebels come for him, Tsubarov finally snaps, undergoes a huge VillainousBreakdown, and turns his Dolls loose on the civillian civilian population, ranting like a madman the entire time about how, through them, he will achieve invincibility.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The soundtrack contains quite a few, and even those who don't like the rest of the series will concede that it has an awesome soundtrack. It helps that the whole thing, minus openings and endings, was done by Kou Otani, the award-winning composer for ''VideoGame/ShadowOfTheColossus''.
** [[Creator/MinamiTakayama Two-Mix]] performs the opening and ending themes. That can't be anything but awesome.



** Many a fanfic has had Relena [[FaceHeelTurn go evil]], usually to facilitate [[DieForOurShip killing her off]] and [[HoYay setting Heero with Duo]]. [[spoiler:In ''Frozen Teardrop'', she actually '''is''' brainwashed into evil - and it's implied that she caused [[strike:her own brother's]] her brother's stand-in's death thanks to it.]]

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** Many a fanfic has had Relena [[FaceHeelTurn go evil]], usually to facilitate [[DieForOurShip killing her off]] and [[HoYay setting Heero with Duo]]. [[spoiler:In ''Frozen Teardrop'', she actually '''is''' brainwashed into evil - and it's implied that she caused [[strike:her own brother's]] her brother's stand-in's death thanks to it.]]



** The dub voice for General Septum sounds uncannily like [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries abridged!Jack.]] You are now imagining Septum yelling "CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES!?"

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** The dub voice for General Septum sounds uncannily like [[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries abridged!Jack.]] abridged!Jack]]. You are now imagining Septum yelling "CARD GAMES ON MOTORCYCLES!?"



* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: If people don't bash Relena for "taking Heero away from Duo", she's bashed for being unapologetically girly or having a pink limo (which her parents gave her, so it's not like she can choose the color).

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* RealWomenNeverWearDresses: RealWomenDontWearDresses: If people don't bash Relena for "taking Heero away from Duo", she's bashed for being unapologetically girly or having a pink limo (which her parents gave her, so it's not like she can choose the color).
6th Jan '17 8:16:52 PM nombretomado
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** Zechs riding the Tallgeese into battle while saying "But I can't falter with the Sanc Kingdom right in front of my eyeeees!" in his best JackNicholson voice. Ditto for infamous yell of ''fooooolllls'' while destroying a cancer mobile suit.

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** Zechs riding the Tallgeese into battle while saying "But I can't falter with the Sanc Kingdom right in front of my eyeeees!" in his best JackNicholson Creator/JackNicholson voice. Ditto for infamous yell of ''fooooolllls'' while destroying a cancer mobile suit.
25th Nov '16 10:33:43 AM nombretomado
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** The ''order'' in which the names are listed is important too. Whoever is listed first is the initiator or "aggressor" of the relationship, while the listing of [=XxYxX=] (as in [=1xRx1=]) means both partners are equally interested. Certain listings indicate shifts in personalities; for example, 2x1 means a moody Duo with a happy Heero. [[MST3KMantra Don't think about it too hard]] [[AustinPowers or you'll go cross-eyed]].

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** The ''order'' in which the names are listed is important too. Whoever is listed first is the initiator or "aggressor" of the relationship, while the listing of [=XxYxX=] (as in [=1xRx1=]) means both partners are equally interested. Certain listings indicate shifts in personalities; for example, 2x1 means a moody Duo with a happy Heero. [[MST3KMantra Don't think about it too hard]] [[AustinPowers [[Film/AustinPowers or you'll go cross-eyed]].
5th Sep '16 2:13:04 AM WickedIcon
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** ''Frozen Teardrop'' is this if not outright FanonDiscontinuity.

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** ''Frozen Teardrop'' is this if not outright FanonDiscontinuity. Some fans love it for being [[MindScrew hilarious nonsense]], and don't really see it as being all that different from [[NarmCharm what the original show was.]] Other fans think it goes too far into bizarro territory.
22nd Aug '16 2:20:45 PM overman2099
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Gundam Wing is a pretty serious show to begin with and it gets even darker as the series progresses, with very little comedy or lightheartedness. Quatre and Duo of the main cast manage to balance things out a little since they're not as dark as the rest of their comrades but even they can only do so much in a war story filled with death and destruction.
24th Jul '16 3:59:57 AM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker:

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* BaseBreaker:BaseBreakingCharacter:
18th Jul '16 6:18:10 PM LinTaylor
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* AmericansHateTingle: Fan opinion of Relena is [[BrokenBase split in America]], while in Japan, she would often appear on the ''Gundam Ace'' "Top 30 Females" monthly ranking, and she is the only female ''Gundam Wing'' character (so far) to appear on the list, not to mention ranking #21 on ''Newtype'''s list of Top 30 Female Characters of the 1990s, as well as spawning many [[FountainOfExpies close copies]] (and not just in Gundam either).

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* AmericansHateTingle: Fan opinion of Relena is [[BrokenBase split in America]], while in Japan, she would often appear on the ''Gundam Ace'' "Top 30 Females" monthly ranking, and she is ranking[[note]]and she's the only female ''Gundam Wing'' character (so far) to appear on the list, list to date[[/note]], not to mention ranking #21 on ''Newtype'''s list of Top 30 Female Characters of the 1990s, as well as and even ranking #1 on a 2016 poll asking female ''Gundam'' fans which women from the entire franchise they admire the most. And that's not even getting into her spawning many [[FountainOfExpies close copies]] (and not just in Gundam either).



** While thankfully mostly a thing of the past now, debates about whether the original TV mobile suit designs or the revised designs by Katoki as seen in Endless Waltz were better could get downright NASTY.

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** While thankfully it's mostly a thing of died off now, in the past now, debates about whether over which version of the original TV mobile suit Gundams is better, Kunio Okawara's designs or for the revised designs by Katoki as seen in Endless Waltz were better TV series or Hajime Katoki's ''Endless Waltz'' designs, could get downright NASTY.pretty nasty.



** ''Gundam Wing G Unit'': This SpinOff novel brings us Dr. Berg, a {{mad scientist}} suffering from a terminal case of ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. He is willing to betray and murder in order to complete his research and create the most powerful Gundams ever, as he takes pride and joy in inventing newer and newer ways for humans to kill each other. He has no regard at all for human lives and only considers people as [[ForScience guinea pigs for him to toy with]]. It is also revealed later on that he arranged for the death of Dr. Burnett and his wife, the parents of series protagonists Odin and Odel, in order to divert fundings from their research to his own weapon manufacturing; this sends Odel, who is normally TheStoic, into an UnstoppableRage and drives him to kill Berg. Unfortunately, Berg initiates a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum and activates his Grand Shirio's doomsday program to [[ColonyDrop destroy the colonies and drop itself on Earth to pollute it with its nuclear engines]].

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** ''Gundam Wing G Unit'': This SpinOff novel manga brings us Dr. Berg, a {{mad scientist}} suffering from a terminal case of ChronicBackstabbingDisorder. He is willing to betray and murder in order to complete his research and create the most powerful Gundams ever, as he takes pride and joy in inventing newer and newer ways for humans to kill each other. He has no regard at all for human lives and only considers people as [[ForScience guinea pigs for him to toy with]]. It is also revealed later on that he arranged for the death of Dr. Burnett and his wife, the parents of series protagonists Odin and Odel, in order to divert fundings from their research to his own weapon manufacturing; this sends Odel, who is normally TheStoic, into an UnstoppableRage and drives him to kill Berg. Unfortunately, Berg initiates a SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum and activates his Grand Shirio's doomsday program to [[ColonyDrop destroy the colonies and drop itself on Earth to pollute it with its nuclear engines]].



*** Every character looking exactly the same, including Heero Yuy the pacifist who looks exactly like the completely unrelated Heero Yuy the Gundam pilot

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*** Every character looking exactly the same, including Heero Yuy the pacifist who looks exactly The cast is overloaded with {{Generation Xerox}}es, not just of major characters like the completely unrelated Heero Yuy the Gundam pilotpilots but even one-shot characters like [[spoiler:Sylvia Noventa]].



*** Every character being related, case-in-point Heero is distantly related to Trant Clark of all people

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*** Every character being related, case-in-point such as Heero is distantly related to being the nephew of Trant Clark Clark[[note]]If you don't recall the name, he only appears in Episode 32 where he forces Duo to pilot Wing Zero and ends up being driven mad by the ZERO System[[/note]].
*** Even if they aren't related, every character introduced looks exactly like an established member
of all peoplethe cast, including the original Heero Yuy being shown to look like Heero the Gundam pilot in his youth.



*** New technology relying upon ludicrous {{Hand Wave}}s, including abusing the concept of {{Nanomachines}} even worse than later installments in the ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' series.



* TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou: In the series and ''Super Robot Wars'' games the final attack of Gundam Deathscythe Hell show your screen with interference until it disappears, then reappears higher and destroys you, then more interference appear showing only a shadow of Gundam.

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* TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou: In the series and ''Super Robot Wars'' Video games like ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' love depicting Deathscythe's stealth jammers as affecting the final attack of Gundam Deathscythe Hell show your screen with player's TV exactly the same way it affects enemy sensors, causing interference and static until it disappears, then reappears higher appears from nowhere and destroys you, then more interference appear showing only a shadow of Gundam.cuts the opponent down.



** The ''order'' in which the names are listed is important too. Whoever is listed first is the initiator or "aggressor" of the relationship, while the listing of [=XxYxX=] (as in [=1xRx1=]) means both partners are equally interested. Certain listings indicate shifts in personalities; for example, 2x1 means a moody Duo with a happy Heero. [[MST3KMantra Don't think about it too hard]] [[AustinPowers or you'll go cross-eyed]].'

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** The ''order'' in which the names are listed is important too. Whoever is listed first is the initiator or "aggressor" of the relationship, while the listing of [=XxYxX=] (as in [=1xRx1=]) means both partners are equally interested. Certain listings indicate shifts in personalities; for example, 2x1 means a moody Duo with a happy Heero. [[MST3KMantra Don't think about it too hard]] [[AustinPowers or you'll go cross-eyed]].'



* {{Woolseyism}}: In an early episode, Duo refers to Relena as "Ojou-san", which is the proper way to address a young woman of high social status (though he may have just been flirting). In the US dub, he instead calls her "good-looking", which is more obvious flirting and gets around the fact that there's no English term that quite matches the original.

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* {{Woolseyism}}: In an early episode, Duo refers to Relena as "Ojou-san", which is the proper way to address a young woman of high social status (though he may have just been flirting). In the US dub, he instead calls her "good-looking", says "Hey good-looking!", which is more obvious flirting and gets around the fact that there's no English term that quite matches the original.
original.
5th Jul '16 12:03:02 PM tenjouutena
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* HoYay: Dear God, where do we ''begin''?

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* HoYay: Dear God, where do we ''begin''?''begin''? Check out the [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/HoYay/Gundam/ Gundam Ho Yay page.]]
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