History YMMV / MobileSuitGundamAge

24th Jul '16 3:54:05 AM Anddrix
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%%** Flit, even more so in Third Generation. See BaseBreaker below.

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%%** Flit, even more so in Third Generation. See BaseBreaker below.



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16th May '16 7:40:34 PM drac0blade
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** Surprisingly in ''Memory of Eden'', [[spoiler:Zeheart Galette. He only followed Ezelcant's plan because he did not want his allies deaths to be in vain]].

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** Surprisingly in ''Memory of Eden'', [[spoiler:Zeheart Galette. He only followed Ezelcant's plan because he did not want his allies allies' deaths to be in vain]].
16th May '16 7:33:02 PM drac0blade
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16th May '16 7:32:59 PM drac0blade
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* Squick: Yurin's name. It sounds like...well, urine.

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* Squick: {{Squick}}: Yurin's name. It sounds like...well, urine.
16th May '16 7:26:06 PM drac0blade
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** [[http://archivethumb3.foolz.us/board/m/img/0075/67/1332665497184.jpg See? Her hair is a bird.]] Your arguments are invalid.
14th Jan '16 12:03:09 PM spoonofevil
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** And on the other side, there are fans who fully support the Federation and more specifically Flit in their desire to completely exterminate the Vagans, since most of the show gave little reason to actually sympathize them. Out of the ''entire'' Vagan cast, only about two or three of them could be considered truly sympathetic. The rest are just [[{{Jerkass}} jerks]].
9th Jan '16 5:10:19 PM mlsmithca
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* ParvumOpus: There are all sorts of criticisms the viewer-base is fractured on, and this has generally led to AGE being the least-liked ''Gundam'' show ''ever made'' (and also the show to pull in the lowest ratings -- scoring under even ''Anime/AfterWarGundamX'').
8th Jan '16 11:24:45 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* PuritySue: Yurin. Being an expy of Lalah Sune didn't help, but giving her much character obviously wasn't intended.
* RelationshipSue: Yurin is not this in canon, but rabid Flit/Yurin shippers seem to see her as few more than Flit's One True Love and the Incarnation Of All Purity In The World. Can become insanely creepy when you extrapolate it with the last snippet in the MemeticMutation part, which showcases [[spoiler: bitter Flit/Yurin shippers lashing out at Emily for being Flit's mother partner after Yurin's death; this means they're likely implying that Flit secretly hates Emily and ''wishes she had died instead of Yurin'']]. [[http://frozenviolets.tumblr.com/post/18376072563/zetsubouwill-this-why-cant-i-like-both-yurin Way to flatten and twist Yurin's character]], people.
11th Oct '15 5:22:29 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* NarmCharm: Woolf encouraging Asemu to become a SUPER PILOT. Its simultaneously silly, endearing, and totally awesome.

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Woolf encouraging Asemu to become a SUPER PILOT. Its simultaneously silly, endearing, and totally awesome.



* NeverLiveItDown: The fandom basically found the Vagan pilot Daz Roden impossible to take seriously after his first combat outing, in which he piloted a top-of-the-line suit against three old men, a sprinkler system, and a hand-held rocket launcher...[[EpicFail and lost.]]

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The fandom basically found the Vagan pilot Daz Roden impossible to take seriously after his first combat outing, in which he piloted a top-of-the-line suit against three old men, a sprinkler system, and a hand-held rocket launcher...[[EpicFail and lost.]]



** [[spoiler: The sheer thought of what Flit had when learning 'Second Moon', Vagan's main base was now in Earth Orbit. "Now we can wipe them all out."]]

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** [[spoiler: The [[spoiler:The sheer thought of what Flit had when learning 'Second Moon', Vagan's main base was now in Earth Orbit. "Now we can wipe them all out."]]



*** And then later on, in Episode 38, [[spoiler:Kio stupidly gives away his biometric data, allowing the Vagan to crack the encryption preventing the Gundam's systems from being copied, all for some medicine to prolong the life of a terminally ill girl by a few days. This decision ends up biting Kio in ass two episodes later when he has to fight the Vagan-engineered Gundam.]]
*** More from this kid in Episodes 41-43 when he refuses to use any tactic but [[spoiler:asking Fram and then Girard to listen and understand when they tell him explicitly and repeatedly that they aren't willing to do so. He ''could'' probably use his C-Funnels to dismember their suits and nonlethally remove them from combat, but all he does is keep begging while they continue to wail on him and nearly beat him]].

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*** ** And then later on, in Episode 38, [[spoiler:Kio stupidly gives away his biometric data, allowing the Vagan to crack the encryption preventing the Gundam's systems from being copied, all for some medicine to prolong the life of a terminally ill girl by a few days. This decision ends up biting Kio in ass two episodes later when he has to fight the Vagan-engineered Gundam.]]
*** ** More from this kid in Episodes 41-43 when he refuses to use any tactic but [[spoiler:asking Fram and then Girard to listen and understand when they tell him explicitly and repeatedly that they aren't willing to do so. He ''could'' probably use his C-Funnels to dismember their suits and nonlethally remove them from combat, but all he does is keep begging while they continue to wail on him and nearly beat him]].



** Zeheart's been hit with this pretty badly in the late stages of the series. [[spoiler:Despite looking like he's going to be the voice of reason against Ezelcant's ludicrous plans for humanity, he gets his character reset to being a fanatical worshipper of the man after simply being told that Ezelcant doesn't want to be God, but rather a guiding light for the new humanity... Despite this merely being the equivalent of saying "Yes you're right that I'm completely off my rocker, but I don't think I'm God, so it's okay."]]
*** Expanded upon in ''Memory of Eden''. [[spoiler:Zeheart was so wracked with SurvivorGuilt over the subordinates who died under him that he would continue pursuing the vision of Eden no matter what, all so that his subordinates' deaths wouldn't have been in vain.]]
** [[spoiler:And then after he's made supreme commander of the Vagan forces in Ezelcant's stead, along comes Episode 47, in which [[FatBastard Zanald]] opens fire on Zeheart and his men and makes clear that he has no intentions of following Zeheart's orders. You'd expect him to either have this traitor apprehended or simply shot on the spot, right? Wrong. He promptly proceeds to allow Zanald to do as he pleases, which quickly results in Deen's death at Zanald's hands. Nice going.]]
*** However, in that case [[spoiler:Zeheart knew that [[TheUriahGambit with Zanald taking the center, his force was in position to take the most damage from the Federation assault]], and sure enough, his entire fleet is wiped out by the ''Diva's'' photon blaster. This was the exact same tactic Zeheart used to get rid of Desil.]]

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** Zeheart's been hit with this pretty badly in the late stages of the series. [[spoiler:Despite looking like he's going to be the voice of reason against Ezelcant's ludicrous plans for humanity, he gets his character reset to being a fanatical worshipper of the man after simply being told that Ezelcant doesn't want to be God, but rather a guiding light for the new humanity... Despite this merely being the equivalent of saying "Yes you're right that I'm completely off my rocker, but I don't think I'm God, so it's okay."]]
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"]] Expanded upon in ''Memory of Eden''. [[spoiler:Zeheart was so wracked with SurvivorGuilt over the subordinates who died under him that he would continue pursuing the vision of Eden no matter what, all so that his subordinates' deaths wouldn't have been in vain.]]
** [[spoiler:And then after he's made supreme commander of the Vagan forces in Ezelcant's stead, along comes Episode 47, in which [[FatBastard Zanald]] opens fire on Zeheart and his men and makes clear that he has no intentions of following Zeheart's orders. You'd expect him to either have this traitor apprehended or simply shot on the spot, right? Wrong. He promptly proceeds to allow Zanald to do as he pleases, which quickly results in Deen's death at Zanald's hands. Nice going.]]
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]] However, in that case [[spoiler:Zeheart knew that [[TheUriahGambit with Zanald taking the center, his force was in position to take the most damage from the Federation assault]], and sure enough, his entire fleet is wiped out by the ''Diva's'' photon blaster. This was the exact same tactic Zeheart used to get rid of Desil.]]



* [WTHCostumingDepartment: Froi Olfenoa's hair antennae don't ''exactly'' convey the gravitas one would expect from the leader of a nation. Neither does [[BigBad Lord Ezelcant's]] hair...corkscrewy thing. Asemu's hair looks like a hedgehog combined with a mullet, one of the Magicians Eight has his bangs combed over ''both'' eyes...the list goes on.

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* [WTHCostumingDepartment: WTHCostumingDepartment: Froi Olfenoa's hair antennae don't ''exactly'' convey the gravitas one would expect from the leader of a nation. Neither does [[BigBad Lord Ezelcant's]] hair...corkscrewy thing. Asemu's hair looks like a hedgehog combined with a mullet, one of the Magicians Eight has his bangs combed over ''both'' eyes...the list goes on.
11th Oct '15 5:19:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* {{Anvilicious}}: [[spoiler:Grodek's murder]] at the end of Episode 24. By [[spoiler:Arabel]] who had five minutes of screen time in Generation 1 [[spoiler:where Grodek tells him that he will live for revenge]], and the five minutes in 24, [[spoiler:where he gets Grodek in the kidneys]]. No explanation of what else he's been doing in the intervening years or how he even ''met'' [[spoiler:anyone in the Federation's StateSec]]. That's not important. What is important is that it was ''revenge'' and that is bad and destructive revenge will destroy you.

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[[spoiler:Grodek's murder]] at the end of Episode 24. By [[spoiler:Arabel]] who had five minutes of screen time in Generation 1 [[spoiler:where Grodek tells him that he will live for revenge]], and the five minutes in 24, [[spoiler:where he gets Grodek in the kidneys]]. No explanation of what else he's been doing in the intervening years or how he even ''met'' [[spoiler:anyone in the Federation's StateSec]]. That's not important. What is important is that it was ''revenge'' and that is bad and destructive revenge will destroy you.



* AuthorsSavingThrow: Romary's [[spoiler: GoThroughMe]] incident earned her a lot of scorn, comparing her to [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Nina Purpleton]]. In Episode 28, she admits her mistakes and naivety to Asemu and earns his forgiveness. Time will tell if [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap she'll earn the audience's as well.]]

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Romary's [[spoiler: GoThroughMe]] incident earned her a lot of scorn, comparing her to [[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Nina Purpleton]]. In Episode 28, she admits her mistakes and naivety to Asemu and earns his forgiveness. Time will tell if [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap she'll earn the audience's as well.]]



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* FanPreferredCouple: It would be an understatement to say that a lot of fans would have preferred to see Flit pair up with Yurin rather than Emily.

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It would be an understatement to say that a lot of fans would have preferred to see Flit pair up with Yurin rather than Emily.



* MoralEventHorizon: What Desil says [[spoiler: after killing Yurin]] puts his status as a irredeemable monster beyond all doubt.
-->'''Flit:''' "Desil... Why did you... Why did Yurin have to die?"
-->'''Desil:''' "There was no reason! It just means I've lost one of my playthings!"

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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What Desil says [[spoiler: after killing Yurin]] puts his status as a irredeemable monster beyond all doubt.
-->'''Flit:''' --->'''Flit:''' "Desil... Why did you... Why did Yurin have to die?"
-->'''Desil:''' --->'''Desil:''' "There was no reason! It just means I've lost one of my playthings!"



** In Episode 47, [[spoiler:Zanald kills Deen, who was on his own side, in the hopes of forcing the Gundam to "move a little faster." Even Kio seems to view it as one of these moments]].

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** In Episode 47, [[spoiler:Zanald kills Deen, who was on his own side, in the hopes of forcing the Gundam to "move a little faster." Even Kio seems to view it as one of these moments]].moments.]]



* StrangledByTheRedString: [[spoiler:Asemu and Romary. After joining the military, they very rarely interact on-screen and neither of them seem to get past the point of "I like you but [[CannotSpitItOut what are words]]" for the whole series, plus Romary has feelings for both him and Zeheart. To resolve this, there is a flashback to one conversation between them in Episode 28 and then the generation ends with the wedding]].
** To be fair, there is a drama CD coming out that will give some insight on how Romary got together with Asemu.
** You can apply this to Emily with Flit and Wendy with Kio pretty well, too.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: [[spoiler:Asemu Asemu and Romary. After joining the military, they very rarely interact on-screen and neither of them seem to get past the point of "I like you but [[CannotSpitItOut what are words]]" for the whole series, plus Romary has feelings for both him and Zeheart. To resolve this, there is a flashback to one conversation between them in Episode 28 and then the generation ends with the wedding]].
wedding. You can apply this to Emily with Flit and Wendy with Kio pretty well, too.
** To be fair, there There is a drama CD coming out that will give some insight on how Romary got together with Asemu.
** You can apply this to Emily with Flit and Wendy with Kio pretty well, too.
Asemu.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Or in this case, an MS. The Orbital, what looked like the most impressive of the AGE-3's forms, is involved in only two battles... both of which it lost, horribly.

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Or in this case, an MS. The Orbital, what looked like the most impressive of the AGE-3's forms, is involved in only two battles... both of which it lost, horribly.
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