History YMMV / MissSaigon

2nd Aug '16 7:54:09 AM rememberthehood1941
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* NightmareFuel: When Thuy finds Kim, he sings a touching song to the one family member he has left in his life and has spent the last three years searching for. But when he finds out about Tam? That goes right out the window and he [[WouldHurtAChild prepares to stab Tam]], an innocent little boy whose only crime ''was to have an American father''.
27th Mar '16 5:46:01 PM RuTsuna
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Engineer is shameless and skeevy, but his charm is undeniable.
19th Feb '16 11:35:26 PM Kuruni
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** Adding to that, remember Ellen's line about she and Chris wanting kids of their own? If they do, this troper would bet anything that Tam ends up TheUnfavorite in the eyes of one or both parents.



** What little fanfic the show has portrays Ellen as treating Tam very well, sometimes even as her own son. Make of that what you will.
** In the performance this troper saw, it was Ellen holding Tam and [[spoiler: shielding him from seeing Kim's body]], instead of the Engineer.

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** What little fanfic the show has portrays Ellen as treating Tam very well, sometimes even as her own son. Make of that what you will.
** In the performance this troper saw, it was Ellen holding Tam and [[spoiler: shielding him from seeing Kim's body]], instead of the Engineer.
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29th Jan '16 8:30:13 PM Adept
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* HilariousInHindsight: Jonathan Pryce originated the role of the Engineer, whose most memorable moment is probably the song "The American Dream". Twenty years later in ''GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'', Pryce played the American President, which is probably the ultimate American dream, fulfilled.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Jonathan Pryce originated the role of the Engineer, whose most memorable moment is probably the song "The American Dream". Twenty years later in ''GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'', ''Film/GIJoeTheRiseOfCobra'', Pryce played the American President, which is probably the ultimate American dream, fulfilled.
18th Jun '15 12:14:54 PM PrinceKaen
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** Adding to that, what little fanfic the show has portrays Ellen as treating Tam very well, sometimes even as her own son. Make of that what you will.

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** Adding to that, what What little fanfic the show has portrays Ellen as treating Tam very well, sometimes even as her own son. Make of that what you will.
22nd Aug '14 10:42:16 PM PrinceKaen
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** It's not just him: consider what Tam's life is going to be like. His mother had to [[spoiler: kill herself to force his father to take him and raise him in America, his stepmother flat-out doesn't want him, and he probably won't have any memory of his real mother at all.]] And even though things were bad for ''bui doi'' in Vietnam (case in point: Thuy trying to stab Tam [[DisproportionateRetribution for existing)]], America wasn't exactly free of HalfBreedDiscrimination at the time either. This kid's most likely got a rough life ahead of him.
** Adding to that, remember Ellen's line about she and Chris wanting kids of their own? If they do, this troper would bet anything that Tam ends up TheUnfavorite in the eyes of one or both parents.
9th Jul '14 9:06:04 PM PrinceKaen
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** There's also the timing problem with her marriage to Chris - he's been back Stateside 3 years, one of which was taken up by his Heroic BSOD ("spoke to no one for a year",) and they've been married 2 years. When exactly did they date?

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** There's also the timing problem with her marriage to Chris - he's been back Stateside 3 years, one of which was taken up by his Heroic BSOD HeroicBSOD ("spoke to no one for a year",) and they've been married 2 years. When exactly did they date?



** Adding to that, what little fanfic the show has portrays Ellen as treating Tam very well, sometimes even as her own son. Make of that what you will.

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** Adding to that, what little fanfic the show has portrays Ellen as treating Tam very well, sometimes even as her own son. Make of that what you will.will.
** In the performance this troper saw, it was Ellen holding Tam and [[spoiler: shielding him from seeing Kim's body]], instead of the Engineer.
5th Jul '14 9:47:31 PM PrinceKaen
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** There are many who view Ellen as their favorite character and others who see her as being as much of a victim of circumstance as Kim and Chris.

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** There are many who view Ellen as their favorite character and others who see her as being as much of a victim of circumstance as Kim and Chris.Chris.
** Adding to that, what little fanfic the show has portrays Ellen as treating Tam very well, sometimes even as her own son. Make of that what you will.
23rd May '14 10:09:59 AM BondGirl
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* DesignatedVillain: It's hard to find a fan of the show who doesn't hate Ellen, seeing her as the reason [[spoiler: Chris and Kim can't reunite and why Chris isn't willing to take Tam (his and Kim's son) back to America with him.]]
** There's also the timing problem with her marriage to Chris - he's been back Stateside 3 years, one of which was taken up by his Heroic BSOD ("spoke to no one for a year",) and they've been married 2 years. When exactly did they date?
** There are many who view Ellen as their favorite character and others who see her as being as much of a victim of circumstance as Kim and Chris.



** It also depends on how well he can pull off that BigNo at the end. Some actors are terrific, others have you stifling your laughter or even cringing.

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** It also depends on how well he can pull off that BigNo at the end. Some actors are terrific, others have you stifling your laughter or even cringing.cringing.
* TheScrappy: It's hard to find a fan of the show who doesn't hate Ellen, seeing her as the reason [[spoiler: Chris and Kim can't reunite and why Chris isn't willing to take Tam (his and Kim's son) back to America with him.]]
** There's also the timing problem with her marriage to Chris - he's been back Stateside 3 years, one of which was taken up by his Heroic BSOD ("spoke to no one for a year",) and they've been married 2 years. When exactly did they date?
** There are many who view Ellen as their favorite character and others who see her as being as much of a victim of circumstance as Kim and Chris.
10th Dec '12 10:47:01 PM BondGirl
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* NarmCharm: The musical can fall prey to this trope yet it's still utterly fantastic, watchable and will probably have you sobbing at the end. Chris is sometimes the most/only narmy one, especially during the song "Why God, Why?"; even its title sounds narmy.

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* NarmCharm: The musical can fall prey to this trope yet it's still utterly fantastic, watchable and will probably have you sobbing at the end. Chris is sometimes the most/only narmy one, especially during the song "Why God, Why?"; even its title sounds narmy.narmy.
** It also depends on how well he can pull off that BigNo at the end. Some actors are terrific, others have you stifling your laughter or even cringing.
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