History YMMV / MichaelBay

17th Aug '16 12:06:21 PM SamMax
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** One review of ''Film/{{Alone in the Dark|2005}}'' described a confusing shot, and the reviewer actually wrote, "Michael Bay has a lot to answer for." Blaming Bay for a ''Uwe Boll'' movie's problems. In fact, he had literally nothing to do with the film, so the misblaming is even more absurd.

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** One review of ''Film/{{Alone in the Dark|2005}}'' described a confusing shot, and the reviewer actually wrote, "Michael Bay has a lot to answer for." Blaming Bay for a ''Uwe Boll'' movie's problems. In fact, he had literally nothing to do with the film, so the misblaming is even more absurd.
17th Aug '16 12:05:19 PM SamMax
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** One review of ''Film/{{Alone in the Dark|2005}}'' described a confusing shot, and the reviewer actually wrote, "Michael Bay has a lot to answer for." Blaming Bay for a ''Uwe Boll'' movie's problems.

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** One review of ''Film/{{Alone in the Dark|2005}}'' described a confusing shot, and the reviewer actually wrote, "Michael Bay has a lot to answer for." Blaming Bay for a ''Uwe Boll'' movie's problems. In fact, he had literally nothing to do with the film, so the misblaming is even more absurd.
10th Jun '16 11:49:40 AM randomguy566
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** He's also said that he doesn't make movies the critics want to see. He openly admits that his movies are meant to be popcorn fun. This is a BerserkButton for three groups of people: professional critics, amateur critics, and [[ReviewsAreTheGospel people who extremely value the views of critics]]. To some observers, the very idea that a director would '''intentionally''' make a movie solely for "entertainment" instead of "art" is seen as pissing right in their Wheaties[[note]However, there are people who point to movies like ''Pacific Rim'', ''Die Hard'' and the movies of the Marvel Cinematic Universe as examples of what they want out of a Michael Bay movie.[[/note]]. Though the fact his films are perennial Oscar contenders means his peers recognize to some degree what he has done.

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** He's also said that he doesn't make movies the critics want to see. He openly admits that his movies are meant to be popcorn fun. This is a BerserkButton for three groups of people: professional critics, amateur critics, and [[ReviewsAreTheGospel people who extremely value the views of critics]]. To some observers, the very idea that a director would '''intentionally''' make a movie solely for "entertainment" instead of "art" is seen as pissing right in their Wheaties[[note]However, Wheaties[[note]]However, there are people who point to movies like ''Pacific Rim'', ''Die Hard'' and the movies of the Marvel Cinematic Universe as examples of what they want out of a Michael Bay movie.[[/note]]. Though the fact his films are perennial Oscar contenders means his peers recognize to some degree what he has done.
10th Jun '16 11:49:20 AM randomguy566
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** He's also said that he doesn't make movies the critics want to see. He openly admits that his movies are meant to be popcorn fun. This is a BerserkButton for three groups of people: professional critics, amateur critics, and [[ReviewsAreTheGospel people who extremely value the views of critics]]. The very idea that a director would '''intentionally''' make a movie solely for "entertainment" instead of "art" is seen as pissing right in their Wheaties. Though the fact his films are perennial Oscar contenders means his peers recognize to some degree what he has done.
** ''13 Hours: Secret Soldiers of Benghazi'' is by '''far''' his most politicized and thus polarizing work to date due to being released in an election year and does not paint a flattering portrait of a presidential candidate. [[https://warisboring.com/michael-bay-released-a-war-movie-trailer-and-the-internet-freaked-out-d50a61dc9df0#.ve4v3mvyc Just the trailer alone]] sent progressive media outlets into a frenzy.

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** He's also said that he doesn't make movies the critics want to see. He openly admits that his movies are meant to be popcorn fun. This is a BerserkButton for three groups of people: professional critics, amateur critics, and [[ReviewsAreTheGospel people who extremely value the views of critics]]. The To some observers, the very idea that a director would '''intentionally''' make a movie solely for "entertainment" instead of "art" is seen as pissing right in their Wheaties.Wheaties[[note]However, there are people who point to movies like ''Pacific Rim'', ''Die Hard'' and the movies of the Marvel Cinematic Universe as examples of what they want out of a Michael Bay movie.[[/note]]. Though the fact his films are perennial Oscar contenders means his peers recognize to some degree what he has done.
** ''13 Hours: Secret Soldiers of Benghazi'' is by '''far''' his most politicized and thus polarizing work to date due to being released in an election year and does not paint a flattering portrait of a presidential candidate. [[https://warisboring.com/michael-bay-released-a-war-movie-trailer-and-the-internet-freaked-out-d50a61dc9df0#.ve4v3mvyc Just the trailer alone]] sent progressive media outlets into a frenzy. Then most of them chilled down when ''13 Hours'' got both mediocredtobad reviews ''and'' a poor box-office draw.
6th Jun '16 8:35:40 PM seminoles8
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* He tends to receive all of the scorn of the fan base for ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'' despite simply being a producer for the film. In a somewhat ironic turn, it turns out that Bay is actually responsible for ''nixing'' a lot of bad ideas that others wanted to put in, since he's now fairly aware of how a fanbase will react to changes. But, due to being who he is, he ends up being blamed for a lot of the ideas ''he was responsible for nixing''. Essentially, a lot of the people cursing his name should be ''thanking'' him for doing what they wanted!

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* ** He tends to receive all of the scorn of the fan base for ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'' despite simply being a producer for the film. In a somewhat ironic turn, it turns out that Bay is actually responsible for ''nixing'' a lot of bad ideas that others wanted to put in, since he's now fairly aware of how a fanbase will react to changes. But, due to being who he is, he ends up being blamed for a lot of the ideas ''he was responsible for nixing''. Essentially, a lot of the people cursing his name should be ''thanking'' him for doing what they wanted!
26th May '16 4:16:30 AM rjd1922
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* He tends to receive all of the scorn of the fan base for ''Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014'' despite simply being a producer for the film. In a somewhat ironic turn, it turns out that Bay is actually responsible for ''nixing'' a lot of bad ideas that others wanted to put in, since he's now fairly aware of how a fanbase will react to changes. But, due to being who he is, he ends up being blamed for a lot of the ideas ''he was responsible for nixing''. Essentially, a lot of the people cursing his name should be ''thanking'' him for doing what they wanted!
24th May '16 9:39:29 AM rjd1922
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** Michael Bay could be the ''poster boy'' for this trope, with almost all his films being critically panned, but still smash hits at the box office. The only real exception, being financially ''and'' critically successful, has been ''Film/TheRock'', and that's likely due to SugarWiki/RuleOfSeanConnery.

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** Michael Bay could be the ''poster boy'' for this trope, with almost all his films being critically panned, but still smash hits at the box office. The only real exception, exceptions, being financially ''and'' critically successful, has been are ''Film/TheRock'', and that's likely due to SugarWiki/RuleOfSeanConnery.SugarWiki/RuleOfSeanConnery, and to a lesser extent, the first ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' film.
19th May '16 10:14:45 PM Cinereous
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** ''13 Hours: Secret Soldiers of Benghazi'' is by '''far''' his most politicized and thus polarizing work to date due to being released in an election year and does not paint a flattering portrait of a presidential candidate. [[https://warisboring.com/michael-bay-released-a-war-movie-trailer-and-the-internet-freaked-out-d50a61dc9df0#.ve4v3mvyc Just the trailer alone]] sent progressive media outlets into a frenzy.
21st Apr '16 10:45:17 AM Silverblade2
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* CriticalDissonance:

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5th Mar '16 4:13:57 PM BananaPancakes
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** The second ''Transformers'' movie illustrates this best: made about one billion dollars in theaters, critics raged about how atrocious it was, resulting in razzies for worst movie, screenplay and director.
** The third possibly more so, since its also recieved a considerable amount of hate, and is now the fifth most highest grossing film of all time.
** Michael Bay could be the ''poster boy'' for this trope, with all his films being critically panned, but still smash hits at the box office. The only real exception, being financially ''and'' critically successful, has been ''Film/TheRock'', and that's likely due to SugarWiki/RuleOfSeanConnery.

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** The second ''Transformers'' movie ''Film/TransformersRevengeOfTheFallen'' illustrates this best: it made about one billion dollars over $836 million in theaters, while critics raged about how atrocious it was, resulting in razzies Razzies for worst movie, screenplay Worst Picture, Screenplay, and director.
Director.
** The third possibly ''[[Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dark of the Moon]]'' might even more so, since its it also recieved received a considerable amount of hate, and is now the fifth most highest grossing twelfth-highest-grossing film of all time.
** Michael Bay could be the ''poster boy'' for this trope, with almost all his films being critically panned, but still smash hits at the box office. The only real exception, being financially ''and'' critically successful, has been ''Film/TheRock'', and that's likely due to SugarWiki/RuleOfSeanConnery.



** Critics have openly attacked the intelligence of fans for making ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' a success despite their reviews. Moviebob's review for ''Inception'' was particularly scathing, comparing fans of the series to Carl from Aqua-Teen Hunger Force in terms of intellect and taste, saying said film was "...too cerebral for fans of Transformers." This is despite the fact that there are plenty of moviegoers who like both.

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** Critics have openly attacked the intelligence of fans for making ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' a success despite their reviews. Moviebob's For a particularly scathing example, see [[Creator/BobChipman MovieBob]]'s review for of ''Film/{{Inception}}'', wherein he compared fans of the series to Carl from ''WesternAnimation/AquaTeenHungerForce'' in terms of intellect and taste, calling ''Inception'' was particularly scathing, comparing fans of the series to Carl from Aqua-Teen Hunger Force in terms of intellect and taste, saying said film was "...too "…too cerebral for fans of Transformers.''Transformers''." This is despite the fact that there are plenty of moviegoers who like both.



* LoveItOrHateIt: Either you love Bay, or you think he's evil. There is no middle ground.



** Although not entirely blameless for the film's problems, Bay did not put the RomanticPlotTumor into ''Film/PearlHarbor''. That was Randall Wallace.
** He swears that it was ExecutiveMeddling that tried to turn it into another ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}''.
** One review of ''Film/AloneInTheDark2005'' described a confusing shot, and the reviewer actually wrote, "Michael Bay has a lot to answer for." Blaming Bay for a ''Uwe Boll'' movie's problems.
** Believe it or not, but there are certain fans that blame Michael Bay for the different robot designs used in the Transformers movies as if he personally drew them up himself. [[FanDumb Nevermind the fact that EVERY different Transformers series features a new style]].

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** Although not entirely blameless for the film's problems, Bay did not put the RomanticPlotTumor into ''Film/PearlHarbor''. That was screenwriter Randall Wallace.
Wallace's fault.
** He swears that it was ExecutiveMeddling that was what tried to turn it into another ''Film/{{Titanic 1997}}''.
''Film/{{Titanic|1997}}''.
** One review of ''Film/AloneInTheDark2005'' ''Film/{{Alone in the Dark|2005}}'' described a confusing shot, and the reviewer actually wrote, "Michael Bay has a lot to answer for." Blaming Bay for a ''Uwe Boll'' movie's problems.
** Believe it or not, but there are certain fans that blame Michael Bay for the different robot designs used in the Transformers movies as if he personally drew them up himself. [[FanDumb Nevermind Never mind the fact that EVERY different Transformers series features a new style]].style.]]



* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: The way people describe his movies, you'd think they were the worst things ever made. You wouldn't know this by looking at the sales figures for Transformers.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Bay has super fans and people that think he's evil. There is no middle ground.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Every film he has made with extensive visual effects has been praised for the level of detail and pushing the prior boundaries, even if the film as a whole may have been flawed. Even Creator/GeorgeLucas admitted to looking to ''Film/PearlHarbor'' for inspiration on the opening sequence of ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/RevengeOfTheSith''.

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* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: The way people describe his movies, you'd think they were the worst things ever made. You wouldn't know this by looking at the sales figures for Transformers.
* LoveItOrHateIt: Bay has super fans and people that think he's evil. There is no middle ground.
the ''Transformers'' films.
* SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome: Every film he has made with extensive visual effects has been praised for the level of detail and pushing the prior boundaries, even if the film as a whole may have been flawed. Even Creator/GeorgeLucas admitted to looking to ''Film/PearlHarbor'' for he drew inspiration on for the opening sequence of ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/RevengeOfTheSith''.Film/RevengeOfTheSith'' from ''Pearl Harbor''.
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