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** The plot and setting of the first game are very unsettling, [[ArtStyleDissonance contrasting highly]] with the beautiful visuals. To sum up, throughout the game the citizens of the island mention that a [[ViciousCycle major disaster strikes the island every 100 years]] and seemingly kills everyone on it. As you go through the various ruins the people become more and more afraid, convinced that the looming disaster and their deaths are imminent. When Mega Man finally encounters and awakens Mega Man Juno, it turns out ''[[HiddenVillain he]]'' is the one responsible for the disaster and plans to do it yet again, making the fears [[ProperlyParanoid entirely justified]].
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** The Servebots almost feel like precursors to the Minions from ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe''.

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** The Active Buster in the first game, and its successor, the Homing Missile, in the sequel. Absurdly expensive to upgrade, but if you do so you end up with a long-range, fully automatic missile launcher that homes in on enemies, does a lot of damage, and can hit multiple enemies to boot.
** The Shining Laser is described as a weapon so powerful it frightens Roll, and it lives up to that reputation, killing anything it hits in seconds, having long range, and being upgradable to infinite energy. Once again, though, it needs a lot of money to reach that point.

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** The Active Buster in the first game, and its successor, the Homing Missile, in the sequel. Absurdly expensive to upgrade, but if you do so you end up with a long-range, fully automatic missile launcher that homes in on enemies, does a lot of damage, and can hit multiple enemies to boot.
boot. he Active Buster is pretty good as well, being a homing missile launcher. Although it is a just a touch weaker than Shining Laser in attack strength, once fully upgraded, the other stats are at the absolute limit, turning it into a long-range [[MacrossMissileMassacre missile machine gun.]] Balanced in the fact that the truly breaking part of the Active Buster is the final Energy upgrade, which gives you infinite ammo. With a weapon that has nearly infinite range and is only surpassable by two other weapons in the game. The final Energy upgrade ''alone'' costs more than the total price of any single special weapon in the game, more than 100,000 Zenny (in-game currency) more than the Shining Laser total, the most powerful weapon in the game.
** The Shining Laser is described as a weapon so powerful it frightens Roll, and it lives up to that reputation, killing anything it hits in seconds, having long range, and being upgradable to infinite energy. Once again, though, it needs a lot of money to reach that point. The Shining Laser is a possibly intentional example. It can down bosses faster than Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog. It sort of balances out, though, because it's not available until late in the game and costs a LOT to upgrade its stats. Lampshaded when Roll admits the power of the weapon is so great it almost frightens her.


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** If you beat the game once, you unlock Hard Mode, where everything has more health, takes less damage, and deals more damage. Beat the game on Hard Mode and you unlock Easy Mode, which is for all intents and purposes identical to Normal Mode, but you start with a part that you can equip that maximizes every attribute on your Mega Buster (an impossible feat in any other mode) which means extremely high attack power, extremely long range, you never have to stop firing your Buster, and your Buster shoots extremely fast. Combine that with the never-ending circle strafe strategy mentioned below makes short work of every boss in the game, including the super-resilient final boss. Additionally, easy mode cut a bosses normal mode HP in half, and it takes twice as long to bust your shield.
** In 2 the Homing Missile replaces the Active Buster, is gotten as early as the Ground Crawler and unlike the ground crawler which can't hit floating enemies this one can, the only downside is it's super expensive, almost as expensive as the Shining Laser, the thing that makes it so good? Well for one the explosion knocks any smaller enemies over, those reaper thieves? Immune to the Buster Gun and Ground Crawler? The Homing missile takes them out in three shots. Second it fires FAST! Very fast, so fast in fact that you might end up accidentally having to wait for it to load back up before firing it again. Thirdly it's insanely effective against the FinalBoss, who borders on SNKBoss at times.
** The Drill Arm in ''VideoGame/MegaManLegends 2''. If you max out its attack power (Which doesn't cost very much) the bosses of the first two major dungeons will die as soon as the drill ''touches'' them, and there are plenty of opportunities to get close enough to do so.
** The Ground Crawler, again in ''Legends 2''. It's inexpensive to upgrade and MURDERS ground enemies. It even nails air enemies that dare get close enough.
** A non-combat Game Breaker is the Vacuum Arm. This will suck in refractor shards for you; since they don't last very long, they're normally a pain to pick up, but with this Arm you'll never miss a one. It gets ''infinite energy'' with a single upgrade; once fully upgraded, it can suck in a whole room's worth of refractors near-instantly. Get in the habit of using this thing and you'll be very rich very fast -- which makes the whole rest of the game easier.
** Another non-combat one is the giant golden bird-reaverbot in the Pokte Caverns on Manda Island. It drops a fairly large amount of zenny, can be killed without too much difficulty, and unlike any other enemy in the game, it respawns every time you exit and re-enter the room. It is hands down the best method for money grinding, and it can be found only about a quarter of the way into the game!
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* HilariousInHindsight: The series' premise of an AfterTheEnd world where everything is segmented into islands, objects from an advanced ancient civilization are a constant source of interest, and everyone uses some form of MiniMecha in their daily lives brings about a surprising amount of layover with Creator/CyberConnect2's ''VideoGame/LittleTailBronx'' series, made even more humorous when that company went on record saying they would agree to take over the ''Legends 3'' Project without hesitation if Capcom just asked them. While ''VideoGame/TailConcerto'' merely matches up with the above description, the similarities go even further once ''VideoGame/SolatoroboRedTheHunter'' is taken into consideration [[spoiler:with Red and Chocolat being an adoptive brother-sister hunter duo who live on a mobile airship called the Asmodeus (much like Mega Man, Roll and the Flutter), the main hero being unknowingly related to a villainous group that wants to commit genocide against the world (Red to Baion and the other hybrids, Mega Man Volnutt to the System), and TheStinger of ''[[VideoGame/MegaManZX ZX Advent]]'' -- which occurs thousands of years prior to ''Legends'' -- has Master Thomas mention that the world needs to be "reset", with it being unclear as to what this entailed. In ''Solatorobo'', the "Reset" was an event that caused the eradication of the human race during WorldWarIII and the rise of the Caninu and Felineko to replace them, and Baion plans to use an ancient technology to eradicate these two species due to considering them "failures" just like the humans before them, a la the Carbon Reinitialization Program]].

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The series' premise of an AfterTheEnd world where everything is segmented into islands, objects from an advanced ancient civilization are a constant source of interest, and everyone uses some form of MiniMecha in their daily lives brings about a surprising amount of layover with Creator/CyberConnect2's ''VideoGame/LittleTailBronx'' series, made even more humorous when that company went on record saying they would agree to take over the ''Legends 3'' Project without hesitation if Capcom just asked them. While ''VideoGame/TailConcerto'' merely matches up with the above description, the similarities go even further once ''VideoGame/SolatoroboRedTheHunter'' is taken into consideration [[spoiler:with Red and Chocolat being an adoptive brother-sister hunter duo who live on a mobile airship called the Asmodeus (much like Mega Man, Roll and the Flutter), the main hero being unknowingly related to a villainous group that wants to commit genocide against the world (Red to Baion and the other hybrids, Mega Man Volnutt to the System), and TheStinger of ''[[VideoGame/MegaManZX ZX Advent]]'' -- which occurs thousands of years prior to ''Legends'' -- has Master Thomas mention that the world needs to be "reset", with it being unclear as to what this entailed. In ''Solatorobo'', the "Reset" was an event that caused the eradication of the human race during WorldWarIII and the rise of the Caninu and Felineko to replace them, and Baion plans to use an ancient technology to eradicate these two species due to considering them "failures" just like the humans before them, a la the Carbon Reinitialization Program]].Program]].
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* {{Moe}}: Volnutt. He's such an [[NiceGuy adorably sweet saint]] that it's hard to not like him.

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* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The second game ends at a bitter note for everyone, with potential disaster about to befall them. With the [=3DS=] sequel canned and the franchise's fate uncertain for decades, it's difficult to recommend playing the game, at least for the story.

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* AudienceAlienatingEnding: The second game ends at on a bitter note for everyone, with potential disaster about to befall them. With the [=3DS=] 3DS sequel canned and the franchise's fate uncertain for decades, it's difficult to recommend playing the game, at least for the story.



* CommonKnowledge: Its commonly stated that [[spoiler:Carbons are robots that merely imitate humans and aren't the same thing. The series and its writers have stated many times that Carbons are not robots or even [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots reploids]], and are instead virtually the same as humans, with the exact difference between them and humans never being revealed. Whilst Carbons can easily replace [[{{Cyborg}} organic parts with machinery]], "regular" humans could do the same thing by ''VideoGame/MegamanZX''. ]]

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* CommonKnowledge: Its It's commonly stated that [[spoiler:Carbons Carbons are robots that merely imitate humans and aren't the same thing. The series and its writers have stated many times that Carbons are not robots or even [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots reploids]], Reploids]], and are instead virtually the same as humans, with the exact difference between them and humans never being revealed. Whilst Carbons can easily replace [[{{Cyborg}} organic parts with machinery]], "regular" humans could do the same thing by ''VideoGame/MegamanZX''. ]]''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' (which, when combined with Reploids being given lifespans equivalent to their human counterparts, resulted in Humanoids and Reploids being virtually indistinguishable from each other).



* CultClassic: At the time of its release it didn't sell very well and had mixed critical reception. These days it has a decent fanbase who love the series and are calling for ''Legends 3'' so strongly, they're making it themselves now that Capcom axed the project.

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* CultClassic: At the time of its release it didn't sell very well and had mixed critical reception. These days it has a decent fanbase who love the series and are calling for ''Legends 3'' so strongly, they're making it themselves now that Capcom Creator/{{Capcom}} axed the project.



** From the second game, Shoebafun. Only found in two levels in the second game, but easily the most paranoia-inducing reaverbots. They are [[AmbushingEnemy floormasters]] that pop out at random and eat you alive, and the only way to escape them is either [[PressXToNotDie jumping at exactly the moment you see one coming up]] or through some serious button mashing once it's got you.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Bonne Family Pirates, especially the Servbots. To wit: they got an entire GaidenGame starring them (namely Tron and her cadre of Servbots) and Tron and the Servbots made the cut ''twice'' for the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, first in ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2 2]]'' where Tron and a Servbot are playable, and then in ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 3]]'', the ''Kattelox Island'' stage features Teisel, Tron, and a lot of Servbots. Heck, Tron was announced as playable for ''Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' before any other Mega Man character, and, along with [[VideoGame/MegaManX Zero]], another fellow EnsembleDarkhorse, they are the only representatives in the game. Tron and the Servbots (along with X and Zero) would then appear in ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'', meaning Tron has officially made more appearances (outside of cameos) than Volnutt has.
* EpilepticTrees: Considering that ''Legends 3'' was cancelled before much could be known about it, there's been a ton of theories surrounding what could've been the game's plot. Of particular note is the fact that (as pointed out by ''Magazine/NintendoPower'') newcomer Barrett's name is a portmanteau of Roll's grandfather's first and last names ('''Barr'''ell Cask'''ett'''), has a metal plate over his left eye just like Barrell, and wears old-timey clothes, suggesting that time travel shenanigans would've somehow been involved.
* FanonDiscontinuity: While the series is still well-liked, the fact that the original humanity is extinct, albeit succeeded by humans descended from [[ArtificialHuman Artificially created humans]], makes the ''Franchise/MegaMan'' series feel like a ShootTheShaggyDog in hindsight. Some fans like to treat this series as its own universe and not connected to the rest of the Mega Man timeline. ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' sums it up in their Megaman Battle Royale when he is capping off Volnutt's analysis:
-->'''Boomstick:''' WOAH WOAH WOAH! Don't try and pull that "happily ever after" crap! [[ApocalypseHow HUMANITY WENT EXTINCT! THE PLANET IS FLOODED!]] AND THE LAST MEGA MAN IS STUCK IN SPACE FOREVER, [[CutShort BECAUSE LEGENDS 3 IS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!]] That peaceful future that Doctor Light fought so hard for turned out to be total bullshit, and [[FridgeHorror if you think about it]], [[NiceJobBreakingItHero it's all his fault]]! Love and peace are lies, GodIsDead, and we're all totally [[SoundEffectBleep f**ked]]! ''(crushes his beer can and throws it on the ground)''

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** From the second game, Shoebafun. Only found in two levels in the second game, but easily the most paranoia-inducing reaverbots.Reaverbots. They are [[AmbushingEnemy floormasters]] that pop out at random and eat you alive, and the only way to escape them is either [[PressXToNotDie jumping at exactly the moment you see one coming up]] or through some serious button mashing once it's got you.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Bonne Family Pirates, especially the Servbots. To wit: they They got an entire GaidenGame starring them (namely Tron and her cadre of Servbots) and Servbots), followed by Tron and the Servbots made making the cut ''twice'' for the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' series, first series (first in ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2 2]]'' where Tron and a Servbot are playable, and then in ''[[VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3 3]]'', with the ''Kattelox Island'' Kattelox Island stage features also featuring Teisel, Tron, and a lot of Servbots.Servbots). Heck, Tron was announced as playable for ''Marvel vs. Capcom 3'' before any other Mega Man ''Franchise/MegaMan'' character, and, along with [[VideoGame/MegaManX Zero]], another fellow EnsembleDarkhorse, they are the only representatives in the game. Tron and the Servbots (along with X and Zero) would then appear in ''VideoGame/ProjectXZone'', meaning Tron has officially made more appearances (outside of cameos) than Volnutt has.
* EpilepticTrees: Considering that ''Legends 3'' was cancelled before much could be known about it, there's been a ton of theories surrounding what could've been the game's plot. Of particular note is the fact that (as pointed out by ''Magazine/NintendoPower'') newcomer Barrett's name is a portmanteau of Roll's grandfather's first and last names ('''Barr'''ell Cask'''ett'''), has a metal plate over his left eye just like Barrell, and wears old-timey clothes, suggesting that time travel {{time travel}} shenanigans would've somehow been involved.
* FanonDiscontinuity: While the series is still well-liked, the fact that the [[spoiler:the original humanity is extinct, albeit succeeded by humans descended from [[ArtificialHuman Artificially artificially created humans]], humans]]]], makes the ''Franchise/MegaMan'' series feel like a ShootTheShaggyDog in hindsight. Some fans like to treat this series as its own universe and not connected to the rest of the Mega Man timeline. ''Mega Man'' timeline (which is furthered in some camps by the fact that [[spoiler:the bad ending of ''VideoGame/MegaManX5'' implicates X himself as the founder of Elysium despite the events of the subsequent ''VideoGame/MegaManZero'' series]]). ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' sums it up in their Megaman [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10_Oz1Csi_Q Mega Man Battle Royale Royale]] when he Boomstick is capping off Volnutt's analysis:
-->'''Boomstick:''' WOAH WOAH WOAH! Don't try and pull that "happily ever after" crap! [[ApocalypseHow [[spoiler:[[ApocalypseHow HUMANITY WENT EXTINCT! EXTINCT!]]]] [[TheGreatFlood THE PLANET IS FLOODED!]] AND THE LAST MEGA MAN IS STUCK IN SPACE FOREVER, [[CutShort BECAUSE LEGENDS 3 IS NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!]] That peaceful future that Doctor Light fought so hard for turned out to be total bullshit, and [[FridgeHorror if you think about it]], [[NiceJobBreakingItHero it's all his fault]]! Love and peace are lies, GodIsDead, and we're all totally [[SoundEffectBleep f**ked]]! ''(crushes his beer can and throws it on the ground)''



** The revelations between the scant amount of info the games supply, and WordOfGod from writers and characters designers, about [[ArtificialHuman Carbons]]. Totally normal-looking, flesh-and-bone organic beings that inherited the earth in the aftermath of Humanity's extinction -- up until you find out that they can interface and [[ArtificialLimbs replace themselves with]] copious [[{{Cyborg}} amounts of technology]]. The best example would be Volnutt himself [[spoiler:despite being a Purifier Unit that can merely pass for a carbon]]; his armor isn't just a suit he wears, but actually ''replacing'' the near entirety of his body just for Digger operations and battle. And Bon Bonne isn't a baby in a suit of armor; that giant robot body ''is'' his body, but he's still a Carbon. BodyHorror doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of something that is simply the new norm for what's left of the world.
** [[FinalSolution The Carbon Reinitialization Program]]. It's never disclosed as to what exactly it is, but one thing's known for absolute certain: it ends in the extinction of all life on the planet. However, taking a second look at the ancient mural in the first game depicting Trigger's battle with Juno gives an idea. It can be seen that the bottom of Eden, Juno's personal means of the procedure, is open, revealing some ''cannon-like'' formation, and ''fire is raining from the sky''. Considering Trigger's buster is depicted as a bow, if the same rationalization of Elysium's advanced technology is applied backwards for the fire, it creates a pretty disturbing image of [[KillSat just what]] the Carbon Reinitialization Program [[KillItWithFire entails]]...

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** The revelations between the scant amount of info the games supply, and WordOfGod from writers and characters designers, about [[ArtificialHuman Carbons]]. Carbons]]: Totally normal-looking, flesh-and-bone organic beings that inherited [[spoiler:inherited the earth in the aftermath of Humanity's extinction humanity's extinction]] -- up until you find out that they can interface and [[ArtificialLimbs replace themselves with]] copious [[{{Cyborg}} copious amounts of technology]]. The best example would be Volnutt himself [[spoiler:despite being a Purifier Unit that can merely pass for a carbon]]; Carbon]]; his armor isn't just a suit he wears, but actually ''replacing'' the near entirety of his body just for Digger operations and battle. And Bon Bonne isn't a baby in a suit of armor; that giant robot body ''is'' his body, but he's still a Carbon. BodyHorror doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of something that is simply the [[spoiler:the new norm for what's left of the world.world]].
** [[FinalSolution The Carbon Reinitialization Program]]. It's never disclosed as to what exactly it is, but one thing's known for absolute certain: it ends in the extinction of all life on the planet. However, taking a second look at the ancient mural in the first game depicting Trigger's battle with Juno gives an idea. It can be seen that the bottom of Eden, Juno's personal means of the procedure, is open, revealing some ''cannon-like'' formation, and ''fire is raining from the sky''. Considering Trigger's buster Buster is depicted as a bow, if the same rationalization of Elysium's advanced technology is applied backwards for the fire, it creates a pretty disturbing image of [[KillSat just what]] the Carbon Reinitialization Program [[KillItWithFire entails]]...



** [[spoiler: [[UnlockableContent Easy Mode]] in its entierty. Not only do you get four times the number of zenni you'd normally get from refractors, but from the very first dungeon, you are given '''The''' most powerful buster part in the entire game: [[PurposelyOverpowered Buster Max.]] It fully maxes out of all your standard weapon's properties (something that's completely impossible to do on [[LevelCap Hard and Normal mode]]) and turns it into a god-like weapon on par with a fully maxed-out [[InfinityPlusOneSword Shining Laser.]]]] Needless to say, you can only get this by beating Normal mode in under three hours or just by beating Hard mode since it '''trivializes''' bosses to such a ridiculous extent that it renders [[spoiler: '''all''' special weapons except the ones that are mandatory for progression officially obsolete.]]

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** [[spoiler: [[UnlockableContent Easy Mode]] in its entierty. entirety. Not only do you get four times the number of zenni Zenni you'd normally get from refractors, Refractors, but from the very first dungeon, you are given '''The''' '''the''' most powerful buster part Buster Part in the entire game: [[PurposelyOverpowered Buster Max.]] Max]]. It fully maxes out of all your standard weapon's properties (something that's completely impossible to do on [[LevelCap Hard and Normal mode]]) Mode]]) and turns it into a god-like weapon on par with a fully maxed-out [[InfinityPlusOneSword Shining Laser.]]]] Laser]]. [[BraggingRightsReward Needless to say, say]], you can only get this by beating Normal mode Mode in under three hours or just by beating Hard mode Mode since it '''trivializes''' ''trivializes'' bosses to such a ridiculous extent that it renders [[spoiler: '''all''' special weapons Special Weapons except the ones that are mandatory for progression officially obsolete.]]



** In the second game. There is an oversight where holding down the fire button and pressing forward repeatedly (causing Mega Man to enter and exit his walking animation) allowed you to bypass the buster's rapid stat and fire very rapidly via cancelling the animation that occurs between shots. This is ''very'' useful for the S Class Digger Test.

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** In the second game. There game, there is an oversight where holding down the fire button and pressing forward repeatedly (causing Mega Man to enter and exit his walking animation) allowed allows you to bypass the buster's Buster's rapid stat and fire very rapidly via cancelling the animation that occurs between shots. This is ''very'' useful for the S Class Digger Test.



* HilariousInHindsight: The series' premise of an AfterTheEnd world where everything is segmented into islands, objects from an advanced ancient civilization are a constant source of interest, and everyone uses some form of MiniMecha in their daily lives brings about a surprising amount of layover with Creator/CyberConnect2's ''VideoGame/LittleTailBronx'' series, made even more humorous when that company went on record saying they would agree to takeover the ''Legends 3'' Project without hesitation if Capcom just asked them. While ''VideoGame/TailConcerto'' merely matches up with the above description, the similarities go even further once ''VideoGame/SolatoroboRedTheHunter'' is taken into consideration [[spoiler:with Red and Chocolat being an adoptive brother-sister hunter duo who live on a mobile airship called the Asmodeus (much like Mega Man, Roll and the Flutter), the main hero being unknowingly related to a villainous group that wants to commit genocide against the world (Red to Baion and the other hybrids, Mega Man Volnutt to the System), and TheStinger of ''[[VideoGame/MegaManZX ZX Advent]]''-- which occurs thousands of years prior to ''Legends''-- has Master Thomas mention that the world needs to be "reset", with it being unclear as to what this entailed. In ''Solatorobo'', the "Reset" was an event that caused the eradication of the human race during WorldWarIII and the rise of the Caninu and Felineko to replace them, and Baion plans to use an ancient technology to eradicate these two species due to considering them "failures" just like the humans before them, a la the Carbon Reinitialization Program.]]
* JustHereForGodzilla: Some fans of ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' got into the ''Legends'' games, ''Misadventures of Tron Bonne'' and ''Legends 2'' in particular, just to see where Yai's [=NetNavi=], Glyde, came from.

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* HilariousInHindsight: The series' premise of an AfterTheEnd world where everything is segmented into islands, objects from an advanced ancient civilization are a constant source of interest, and everyone uses some form of MiniMecha in their daily lives brings about a surprising amount of layover with Creator/CyberConnect2's ''VideoGame/LittleTailBronx'' series, made even more humorous when that company went on record saying they would agree to takeover take over the ''Legends 3'' Project without hesitation if Capcom just asked them. While ''VideoGame/TailConcerto'' merely matches up with the above description, the similarities go even further once ''VideoGame/SolatoroboRedTheHunter'' is taken into consideration [[spoiler:with Red and Chocolat being an adoptive brother-sister hunter duo who live on a mobile airship called the Asmodeus (much like Mega Man, Roll and the Flutter), the main hero being unknowingly related to a villainous group that wants to commit genocide against the world (Red to Baion and the other hybrids, Mega Man Volnutt to the System), and TheStinger of ''[[VideoGame/MegaManZX ZX Advent]]''-- Advent]]'' -- which occurs thousands of years prior to ''Legends''-- ''Legends'' -- has Master Thomas mention that the world needs to be "reset", with it being unclear as to what this entailed. In ''Solatorobo'', the "Reset" was an event that caused the eradication of the human race during WorldWarIII and the rise of the Caninu and Felineko to replace them, and Baion plans to use an ancient technology to eradicate these two species due to considering them "failures" just like the humans before them, a la the Carbon Reinitialization Program.]]
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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some fans of ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' got into the ''Legends'' games, ''Misadventures of Tron Bonne'' and ''Legends 2'' in particular, just to see where Yai's [=NetNavi=], Glyde, came from. The fact that at least four other ''Legends'' characters have {{Exp|y}}ies in the ''Battle Network'' series[[labelnote:*]]the aforementioned Yai is based on Yaito of Pokte Village, while siblings Shu, Appo, and Dah inspired the similar Shuko, Atsu, and Ty; additionally, [[VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork2 Ms. Millions]] is commonly believed to be the ''BN'' counterpart of Mayor Yōkan, though there is no official confirmation that this is the case, unlike the others[[/labelnote]] is also a draw.



* SelfFanservice: While their designs are already appealing to begin with, RuleThirtyFour artists often go to ''town'' on the games' female characters. Sera and Yuna less so, though they do have their dedicated fan artists, but artists often give Roll HartmanHips, while Tron's fan artists often give her both larger hips ''and'' a [[BuxomBeautyStandard larger chest]].

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* SelfFanservice: While their designs are already appealing to begin with, RuleThirtyFour artists often go to ''town'' on the games' female characters. Sera and Yuna less so, though they do have their dedicated fan artists, but artists often give Roll HartmanHips, while Tron's fan artists often give her both larger hips ''and'' a [[BuxomBeautyStandard a larger chest]].



** And lord knows what he's been up to with [[spoiler:Yuna and Sera]] in the real time following the ending of ''Legends 2''. Suffice to say that some of the Ship To Ship Combat in the fandom revolves not around which girl Mega Man should take, but [[MarryThemAll whether or not he should take all of them]].

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** And lord knows what he's been up to with [[spoiler:Yuna and Sera]] in the real time following the ending of ''Legends 2''. Suffice to say that some of the Ship To Ship Ship-to-Ship Combat in the fandom revolves not around which girl Mega Man should take, but [[MarryThemAll whether or not he should take all of them]].



* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: While ''Legends 1'' has been VindicatedByHistory, most would agree it hasn't aged particularly well in terms of controls. ''Legends 2'', by contrast, provides Mega Man with a full range of movement and the ability to lock on while moving, better camera control and aiming by using the analogue sticks, and features dungeon design that feels like a TruerToTheText adaptation of ''VideoGame/MegaManClassic'' level design in [=3D=].
* ThatOneAttack: The green orb attack most Bonne boss robots use in ''Legends 1''. It's large and tricky to avoid, homes in on you, does a lot of damage, ''and'' breaks your shield so you take increased damage from normal attacks. Oh yeah, and the Bonne robots usually fire two of them in succession.
** The FinalBoss in ''Legends 2'' is meant to be difficult, being a mother unit and all but two attacks from her second form take the cake. The first is a laser, launched from her chest, that sweeps back and forth across the field and does a crapton of damage if it connects; the second, tied into the first, is her DesperationAttack where she fires a black hole that, while it doesn't damage you, makes you ''much'' easier to hit.

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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: While ''Legends 1'' has been VindicatedByHistory, most would agree it hasn't aged particularly well in terms of controls. ''Legends 2'', by contrast, provides Mega Man with a full range of movement and the ability to lock on while moving, better camera control and aiming by using the analogue sticks, and features dungeon design that feels like a TruerToTheText adaptation of ''VideoGame/MegaManClassic'' level design in [=3D=].3D.
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The green orb attack most Bonne boss robots use in ''Legends 1''. It's large and tricky to avoid, homes in on you, does a lot of damage, ''and'' breaks your shield so you take increased damage from normal attacks. Oh yeah, and the Bonne robots usually fire two of them in succession.
** The FinalBoss in ''Legends 2'' is meant to be difficult, being a mother unit [[spoiler:a Mother Unit]], and all but two attacks from her second form take the cake. The first is a laser, launched from her chest, that sweeps back and forth across the field and does a crapton of damage if it connects; the connects. The second, tied into the first, is her DesperationAttack where she fires a black hole that, while it doesn't damage you, makes you ''much'' easier to hit.



** The Nino Ruins in ''2''. It's a DownTheDrain area and has all of its trappings: most of it has you moving veeeeery sloooooowly through water (which also messes with your jumping physics, making it harder to dodge enemies), is labyrinthine and very, ''very'' [[MarathonLevel long]], and it's packed to the brim with some of the more [[SmashMook tedious]] and/or [[GoddamnedBats annoying]] Reaverbots in the game. At least it's got some [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ex61b-Tujc good music]] for you to listen to. By extension the Kimotama Caverns fall into this category as well, just without the cool music (you instead get the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrAFM1tLkzs Clozer Woods ruin music]] from the first game, which is more NightmareFuel than anything).
** Even worse is 2's Saul Kada Ruins. An abundance of lava and enemies with fire attacks makes it very easy to be ignited. If you haven't picked up a few Medicine Bottle upgrades and can't put out the flames, you can easily lose most of your health to a single mistake. On top of that, there are obnoxious butterfly enemies that can paralyze you and slow movement to a crawl (fixing that means risking draining that Medicine Bottle even faster) and bird-faced rocket turrets with insane range, damage and homing capabilities. An annoying sequence where you [[spoiler:team up with Tron and Bon to stop the flow of lava]] asks you to use the notoriously fiddly Lifter while contending with multiple, fast enemies and a lava pool. There's also the giant reaverbot fight, where aiming up at its face messes with the camera and makes it incredibly easy to walk onto lava by mistake. [[spoiler:To really rub it in, you're not able to defeat this boss the first time you meet it. You're supposed to move past it and return after stopping the lava flow it uses to heal. Your only hint beforehand is Roll making a vague comment about this one being different from bots you've fought before. You can waste time, patience and ammo in the first confrontation due to not knowing this.]]

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** The Nino Ruins in ''2''. It's a DownTheDrain area and has all of its trappings: most of it has you moving veeeeery sloooooowly through water (which also messes with your jumping physics, making it harder to dodge enemies), is labyrinthine and very, ''very'' [[MarathonLevel long]], and it's packed to the brim with some of the more [[SmashMook tedious]] and/or [[GoddamnedBats annoying]] Reaverbots in the game. At least it's got some [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ex61b-Tujc some good music]] for you to listen to. By extension the Kimotama Caverns fall into this category as well, just without the cool music (you instead get the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrAFM1tLkzs the Clozer Woods ruin music]] from the first game, which is more NightmareFuel than anything).
** Even worse is 2's the second game's Saul Kada Ruins. An abundance of lava and enemies with fire attacks makes it very easy to be ignited. If you haven't picked up a few Medicine Bottle upgrades and can't put out the flames, you can easily lose most of your health to a single mistake. On top of that, there are obnoxious butterfly enemies that can paralyze you and slow movement to a crawl (fixing that means risking draining that Medicine Bottle even faster) and bird-faced rocket turrets with insane range, damage and homing capabilities. An annoying sequence where you [[spoiler:team up with Tron and Bon to stop the flow of lava]] asks you to use the notoriously fiddly Lifter while contending with multiple, fast enemies and a lava pool. There's also the giant reaverbot Reaverbot fight, where aiming up at its face messes with the camera and makes it incredibly easy to walk onto lava by mistake. [[spoiler:To really rub it in, you're not able to defeat this boss the first time you meet it. You're supposed to move past it and return after stopping the lava flow it uses to heal. Your only hint beforehand is Roll making a vague comment about this one being different from bots you've fought before. You can waste time, patience and ammo in the first confrontation due to not knowing this.]]



** The 100 question quiz from ''Legends 2''. After completing the 10 question quiz--which isn't too difficult or time-consuming--the Mayor, who's also the principal of the only school on Manda Island, offers you their national treasure and two ways to obtain it. Either pay two million (with an m) zenny, which is the same amount needed to fully upgrade the power on the homing missile so it's crazy expensive, or take the 100 question quiz. The questions range in topic from pop culture, to history, to science, to physics... They even throw in a question about the ''Mega Man Legends'' universe and if you get just one question wrong you have to start all over again.

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** The 100 question 100-question quiz from ''Legends 2''. After completing the 10 question quiz--which 10-question quiz -- which isn't too difficult or time-consuming--the time-consuming -- the Mayor, who's also the principal of the only school on Manda Island, offers you their national treasure and two ways to obtain it. Either pay two million (with an m) zenny, Zenny, which is the same amount needed to fully upgrade the power on the homing missile so it's crazy expensive, or take the 100 question 100-question quiz. The questions range in topic from pop culture, to history, to science, to physics... They even throw in a question about the ''Mega Man Legends'' universe and if you get just one question wrong you have to start all over again.



* ViewerGenderConfusion: [[http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/vfgdWw59zi4/hqdefault.jpg Juno]] from the first game and [[http://www.legends-station.com/mml2/characters/bodymaster.png The Master]] from the second game are both very feminine looking male characters.
* VindicatedByHistory: In 1998, the game had poor sales, and the reception to ''Legends'' was mediocre at best. In fact, it was often pointed out as an example of how a transition from 2D to 3D could go wrong. Now, it's a beloved CultClassic -- the backlash over the cancellation of ''Mega Man Legends 3'' is a testament to its popularity. A part of this comes from the fact that the controls for the first game and ''The Misadventures of Tron Bonne'' were mediocre, but the story held together. The controls were greatly improved for the second game and the story doubled down on the intrigue and awesomeness.

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* ViewerGenderConfusion: [[http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/vfgdWw59zi4/hqdefault.jpg Juno]] from the first game and [[http://www.legends-station.com/mml2/characters/bodymaster.png The Master]] from the second game are both very feminine looking feminine-looking male characters.
* VindicatedByHistory: In 1998, the game had poor sales, and the reception to ''Legends'' was mediocre at best. In fact, it was often pointed out as an example of how a transition from 2D to 3D could go wrong. Now, it's a beloved CultClassic -- the backlash over the cancellation of ''Mega Man Legends 3'' is a testament to its popularity. A part of this comes from the fact that the controls for the first game and ''The Misadventures of Tron Bonne'' were mediocre, [[EnjoyTheStorySkipTheGame but the story held together.together]]. The controls were greatly improved for the second game and the story doubled down on the intrigue and awesomeness.

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Carbons are officially not robots, removing complaining


* CommonKnowledge: Its commonly stated that [[spoiler:Carbons are robots that merely imitate humans and aren't the same thing. The series and its writers have stated many times that Carbons are not robots or even [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots reploids]], and are instead virtually the same as humans, with the exact difference between them and humans never being revealed. Whilst Carbons can easily replace [[{{Cyborg}} organic parts with machinery]], "regular" humans could do the same thing by ''VideoGame/MegamanZX''. ]]



* FanonDiscontinuity: While the series is still well-liked, the fact humanity is extinct and much of what the protagonists in the previous series fought for [[AllForNothing is gone]] makes the ''Franchise/MegaMan'' series feel like a ShootTheShaggyDog in hindsight. Some fans like to treat this series as its own universe and not connected to the rest of the Mega Man timeline. ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' sums it up in their Megaman Battle Royale when he is capping off Volnutt's analysis:

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* FanonDiscontinuity: While the series is still well-liked, the fact that the original humanity is extinct and much of what the protagonists in the previous series fought for [[AllForNothing is gone]] extinct, albeit succeeded by humans descended from [[ArtificialHuman Artificially created humans]], makes the ''Franchise/MegaMan'' series feel like a ShootTheShaggyDog in hindsight. Some fans like to treat this series as its own universe and not connected to the rest of the Mega Man timeline. ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' sums it up in their Megaman Battle Royale when he is capping off Volnutt's analysis:



** The revelations between the scant amount of info the games supply, and WordOfGod from writers and characters designers, about [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots Carbons]]. Totally normal-looking, flesh-and-bone organic beings that inherited the earth in the aftermath of Humanity's extinction -- up until you find out that they can interface and [[ArtificialLimbs replace themselves with]] copious amounts of technology. The best example would be Volnutt himself [[spoiler:despite being a Purifier Unit]]; his armor isn't just a suit he wears, but actually ''replacing'' the near entirety of his body just for Digger operations and battle. And Bon Bonne isn't a baby in a suit of armor; that giant robot body ''is'' his body, but he's still a Carbon. BodyHorror doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of something that is simply the new norm for what's left of the world.

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** The revelations between the scant amount of info the games supply, and WordOfGod from writers and characters designers, about [[RidiculouslyHumanRobots [[ArtificialHuman Carbons]]. Totally normal-looking, flesh-and-bone organic beings that inherited the earth in the aftermath of Humanity's extinction -- up until you find out that they can interface and [[ArtificialLimbs replace themselves with]] copious [[{{Cyborg}} amounts of technology. technology]]. The best example would be Volnutt himself [[spoiler:despite being a Purifier Unit]]; Unit that can merely pass for a carbon]]; his armor isn't just a suit he wears, but actually ''replacing'' the near entirety of his body just for Digger operations and battle. And Bon Bonne isn't a baby in a suit of armor; that giant robot body ''is'' his body, but he's still a Carbon. BodyHorror doesn't even begin to scratch the surface of something that is simply the new norm for what's left of the world.
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** Firushudot -- the crocodile-shaped Reaverbots from the Lake Jyun Gate -- are exclusive to one corridor in the first game, but they have a long-range [[MakeMeWannaShout sonic beam attack]] and are horrendously powerful even against beefed-up armor and firepower. And, again, they tend to pop out of the walls in groups. Your best bet is to either walk slowly or run like hell.

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** Firushudot -- the crocodile-shaped Reaverbots from the Lake Jyun Gate -- are exclusive to one corridor in the first game, but they have a long-range [[MakeMeWannaShout [[SuperScream sonic beam attack]] and are horrendously powerful even against beefed-up armor and firepower. And, again, they tend to pop out of the walls in groups. Your best bet is to either walk slowly or run like hell.

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