History YMMV / MegamanLegends

21st Sep '17 6:45:12 PM DrakeClawfang
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Despite the many entries on this very page calling these games classics, there are just many Mega Man fans that find these to be terrible. Whether because of TheyChangedItNowItSucks, finding the games have aged poorly, or just not liking the direction at all, for every fan professing their love for the games, there's an equal amount of articles and videos decrying them and taking issue with every part of its design. Infamously, Website/ScrewAttack listed it as one of the worst jumps to 3D of all time, and a later [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd AVGN]] episode had similar feelings.

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* LoveItOrHateIt: Despite While the series definitely has a fanbase and its strong points, many entries on this very page calling these games classics, there are just many Mega Man fans that don't care for the radical setting and gameplay shift and find these to be terrible. Whether because of TheyChangedItNowItSucks, finding the games have aged poorly, or just not liking the direction at all, for every fan professing their love for the games, there's an equal amount of articles and videos decrying them and taking issue with every part of its design. poorly. Infamously, Website/ScrewAttack listed it as one of the worst jumps to 3D of all time, and a later [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd AVGN]] ''WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd'' episode had similar feelings.
21st Sep '17 10:26:52 AM googlop
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Despite the many entries on this very page calling these games classics, there are just many Mega Man fans that find these to be terrible. Whether because of TheyChangedItNowItSucks, finding the games have aged poorly, or just not liking the direction at all, for every fan professing their love for the games, there's an equal amount of articles and videos decrying them and taking issue with every part of its design. Infamously, Website/ScrewAttack listed it as one of the worst jumps to 3D of all time, and a later [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd AVGN]] episode had similar feelings.
26th Aug '17 7:19:02 PM Luigifan
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** Firushudot-- the crocodile-shaped Reaverbots from the Lake Jyun Gate-- are exclusive to one corridor in the first game, but they have a long-range [[MakeMeWannaShout sonic beam attack]] and are horrendously powerful even against beefed-up armor and firepower. And, again, they tend to pop out of the walls in groups. Your best bet is to either walk slowly or run like hell.

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** Firushudot-- Firushudot -- the crocodile-shaped Reaverbots from the Lake Jyun Gate-- Gate -- are exclusive to one corridor in the first game, but they have a long-range [[MakeMeWannaShout sonic beam attack]] and are horrendously powerful even against beefed-up armor and firepower. And, again, they tend to pop out of the walls in groups. Your best bet is to either walk slowly or run like hell.



** Or what Data says at the end of Legends 2...It might take a while for Mega Man to get home, indeed.

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** Or what Data says at the end of Legends 2... It might take a while for Mega Man to get home, indeed.



*** Finally, ''Mega Man Legends 3'' was cancelled around the time another game called ''Mega Man Universe'' was cancelled; which was a de facto revival of a series just starting to go dormant, and was literally billed by Capcom as a celebration of the ''Mega Man'' franchise as a whole, making both cancellations feel like kicks to the teeth for the fandom. Now it felt like Capcom was intentionally trying to kill the franchise; indeed, since the cancellation of ''Legends 3'', the only ''Mega Man''-related media released has been ''Mega Man'''s appearance in the latest ''Super Smash Bros.'' game and the Archie Comics series. Even worse as Inafune's attempted SpiritualSuccessor to Mega Man, ''VideoGame/MightyNo9''; [[HopeSpot utterly crashed and burned on release]] in 2016! things are starting to turn around though when the first six games of the classic series were re-released in 2015 on UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation 4}}, UsefulNotes/{{Xbox One}}, the UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 3DS}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} with a new challenge mode, and a museum featuring an exhaustive collection of sketches. and a new animated television series by Man of Action (the creator of ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' and ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'') was announced, with a projected premiere date of 2018 on Creator/CartoonNetwork. Though considering [[BrokenBase the extremely mixed reception of the cartoon so far]] and the lack of any new game announcements aside from ports of the NES games, it's very doubtful that Mega Man is out just yet.

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*** Finally, ''Mega Man Legends 3'' was cancelled around the time another game called ''Mega Man Universe'' was cancelled; which was a de facto revival of a series just starting to go dormant, and was literally billed by Capcom as a celebration of the ''Mega Man'' franchise as a whole, making both cancellations feel like kicks to the teeth for the fandom. Now it felt like Capcom was intentionally trying to kill the franchise; indeed, since the cancellation of ''Legends 3'', the only ''Mega Man''-related media released has been ''Mega Man'''s appearance in the latest ''Super Smash Bros.'' game and the Archie Comics series. Even worse as Inafune's attempted SpiritualSuccessor to Mega Man, ''VideoGame/MightyNo9''; ''VideoGame/MightyNo9'', [[HopeSpot utterly crashed and burned on release]] in 2016! things are starting to turn around though when the first six games of the classic series were re-released in 2015 on UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation 4}}, UsefulNotes/{{Xbox One}}, the UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 3DS}}, and UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} with a new challenge mode, and a museum featuring an exhaustive collection of sketches. and a new animated television series by Man of Action (the creator of ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' and ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'') was announced, with a projected premiere date of 2018 on Creator/CartoonNetwork. Though considering [[BrokenBase the extremely mixed reception of the cartoon so far]] and the lack of any new game announcements aside from ports of the NES games, it's very doubtful that Mega Man is out just yet.



* MagnificentBastard: Teisel has shades of this. The Bonne's are utterly devoted to him, and many, many times in Misadventures of Tron Bonne, the Servbots talk about how inspiring and charismatic he is. While he's prone to becoming angry when something gives him trouble, when he is defeated he tends to either become relatively quiet (when Mega Man defeats the Marlwolf), accept it with surprising grace (when Megs defeats the Focke Wolf), or smoothly improvise a way to salvage victory from defeat (after Mega beats Bruno) by [[spoiler:not only convincing Mega Man to not turn the Bonnes in, but also noting to Tron that since Mega Man is such a good digger, he will eventually find the Mother Lode, and when he does, they can take it first. Cementing Teisel as this trope: This plan goes off without the slightest hitch (presuming that the massive refractor in the Main Gate is the Mother Lode anyway; the games themselves are ambiguous at best about that]].
** He also claims at the end of the Misadventures of Tron Bonne that [[spoiler: he let Loathe capture him on purpose, knowing it would compel Tron to crush Loathe, and put the whole family in a position to claim Loathe's riches, including the Colossus, for themselves. This, again, goes off without a hitch.]] But it's unclear if that's true or if he's just claiming credit after the fact.

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* MagnificentBastard: Teisel has shades of this. The Bonne's Bonnes are utterly devoted to him, and many, many times in Misadventures of Tron Bonne, the Servbots talk about how inspiring and charismatic he is. While he's prone to becoming angry when something gives him trouble, when he is defeated defeated, he tends to either become relatively quiet (when Mega Man defeats the Marlwolf), accept it with surprising grace (when Megs defeats the Focke Wolf), or smoothly improvise a way to salvage victory from defeat (after Mega beats Bruno) by [[spoiler:not only convincing Mega Man to not turn the Bonnes in, but also noting to Tron that since Mega Man is such a good digger, he will eventually find the Mother Lode, and when he does, they can take it first. Cementing Teisel as this trope: This plan goes off without the slightest hitch (presuming that the massive refractor in the Main Gate is the Mother Lode anyway; the games themselves are ambiguous at best about that]].
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** He also claims at the end of the ''The Misadventures of Tron Bonne Bonne'' that [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he let Loathe capture him on purpose, knowing it would compel Tron to crush Loathe, and put the whole family in a position to claim Loathe's riches, including the Colossus, for themselves. This, again, goes off without a hitch.]] But it's unclear if that's true or if he's just claiming credit after the fact.



** [[LoveableRogue Teisel Bonne]], whose most prominent role in Legends 1 and 2 is basically to get his ass kicked by Mega Man over and over. He also spends most of Tron's spinoff game captured and in-distress. Dialogue makes it clear that off-screen he is a feared, capable, and respected leader of pirates, but that's, well, [[ShowDontTell off-screen]].
** In-universe there is [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist Denise Marmalade]] from The Misadventures of Tron Bonne. She repeatedly gets her ass kicked by Tron (and shows up late to Tron's first robbery, due to having overslept and needing to be woken up by her mother), and is constantly chewed out by her superiors for it (never mind that plenty of other police officers fail to stop Tron over and over too). Eventually, Tron actually feels bad for her, and [[spoiler: arranges it so that Denise will be credited with capturing Loathe and Glyde]]. Though, when Teisel points out she's acting out of a concern for a friend, Tron denies it up and down.

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** [[LoveableRogue Teisel Bonne]], whose most prominent role in Legends 1 ''Legends 1'' and 2 ''2'' is basically to get his ass kicked by Mega Man over and over. He also spends most of Tron's spinoff game captured and in-distress. Dialogue makes it clear that off-screen he is a feared, capable, and respected leader of pirates, but that's, well, [[ShowDontTell off-screen]].
** In-universe In-universe, there is [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist Denise Marmalade]] from The ''The Misadventures of Tron Bonne.Bonne''. She repeatedly gets her ass kicked by Tron (and shows up late to Tron's first robbery, due to having overslept and needing to be woken up by her mother), and is constantly chewed out by her superiors for it (never mind that plenty of other police officers fail to stop Tron over and over too). Eventually, Tron actually feels bad for her, and [[spoiler: arranges [[spoiler:arranges it so that Denise will be credited with capturing Loathe and Glyde]]. Though, when Teisel points out she's acting out of a concern for a friend, Tron denies it up and down.



** And lord knows what he's been up to with [[spoiler:Yuna and Sera]] in the real time following the ending of Legends 2. Suffice to say that some of the Ship To Ship Combat in the fandom revolves not around which girl Mega Man should take, but [[MarryThemAll whether or not he should take all of them]].

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** And lord knows what he's been up to with [[spoiler:Yuna and Sera]] in the real time following the ending of Legends 2.''Legends 2''. Suffice to say that some of the Ship To Ship Combat in the fandom revolves not around which girl Mega Man should take, but [[MarryThemAll whether or not he should take all of them]].



* StrawmanHasAPoint: There's a scene in Manda Island in Legends 2 where Tron is trying to break Mega Man's trust in Roll by telling him she overcharges him for weapons and effectively steals money from him. This is treated in-game as nothing but Tron making stuff up, but many players have pointed out how ridiculously expensive it is to fully upgrade several weapons in both games, with it requiring an elephantine amount of grinding.
* SugarWiki/SuperlativeDubbing: While it may seem a bit odd in this day and age, back during the [=PS1=] era of games when voice acting was often [[{{Narm}} cringe inducing at best]], the voice acting in the first game in many regards managed to do two things that shocked a lot of people. 1; being a surprisingly good dub and 2; having good voice acting for a ''Capcom'' Mega Man game. (Which, thanks to a [[VideoGame/MegaMan8 certain other Mega Man game]], Capcom is rather [[MemeticMutation infamous]] for their voice selection.)

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: There's a scene in Manda Island in Legends 2 ''Legends 2'' where Tron is trying to break Mega Man's trust in Roll by telling him she overcharges him for weapons and effectively steals money from him. This is treated in-game as nothing but Tron making stuff up, but many players have pointed out how ridiculously expensive it is to fully upgrade several weapons in both games, with it requiring an elephantine amount of grinding.
* SugarWiki/SuperlativeDubbing: While it may seem a bit odd in this day and age, back during the [=PS1=] era of games when voice acting was often [[{{Narm}} cringe inducing cringe-inducing at best]], the voice acting in the first game in many regards managed to do two things that shocked a lot of people. 1; being a surprisingly good dub and 2; having good voice acting for a ''Capcom'' Mega Man game. (Which, thanks to a [[VideoGame/MegaMan8 certain other Mega Man game]], Capcom is rather [[MemeticMutation infamous]] for their voice selection.)



* VindicatedByHistory: In 1998, the game had poor sales, and fans of Legends were rare. Now, it's a beloved CultClassic.

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* VindicatedByHistory: In 1998, the game had poor sales, and fans of Legends ''Legends'' were rare. Now, it's a beloved CultClassic.
21st Aug '17 5:10:34 PM Yugnat
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** Worth noting that not only did Capcom give the fans false hope (They hyped the game up quite a bit, and in a rare move, encouraged fan participation in its construction), they didn't really explain ''why'' it was canceled (just that it "didn't meet criteria"). Then, there's the Prototype version that was meant to test sales? Also canned, despite ''being completely finished''. It only got worse when it was revealed that Inafune offered to help finish the game, and was shot down.

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** Worth noting that not only did Capcom give the fans false hope (They (they hyped the game up quite a bit, and in a rare move, encouraged fan participation in its construction), they didn't really explain ''why'' it was canceled (just that it "didn't meet criteria"). Then, there's the Prototype version that was meant to test sales? Also canned, despite ''being completely finished''. It only got worse when it was revealed that Inafune offered to help finish the game, and was shot down.
19th Aug '17 8:16:08 PM RockRaider
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* CrackIsCheaper: The first game goes for a reasonable price, but the other two go for around $100.00 AT LEAST.

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* CrackIsCheaper: The first game goes for a reasonable price, but the other two go for around $100.00 each AT LEAST.
1st Aug '17 4:05:41 PM RockRaider
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* CrackIsCheaper: The first game goes for a reasonable price, but the other two go for around $100.00 AT LEAST.
9th May '17 8:27:54 PM Mullon
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* FashionVictimVillain: The metal plate Tron Bonne has bolted on her crotch is unbelievably distracting.

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* FashionVictimVillain: The metal plate Tron Bonne has bolted on her to Tron Bonne's crotch is unbelievably distracting.
20th Apr '17 7:32:25 AM Anddrix
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** This article would be remiss if it did not mention [[HellIsThatNoise this]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrAFM1tLkzs&playnext=1&list=PLB4FF66042694CAEC&index=13 music:]]

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** This article would be remiss if it did not mention [[HellIsThatNoise this]] this [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrAFM1tLkzs&playnext=1&list=PLB4FF66042694CAEC&index=13 music:]]



** The Nino Ruins in ''2'', which isn't suprising considering it's a DownTheDrain area and has all of its trappings: most of it has you moving veeeeery sloooooowly through water (which also messes with your jumping physics, making it harder to dodge enemies), is labyrinthine and very, ''very'' [[MarathonLevel long]], and it's packed to the brim with some of the more [[SmashMook tedious]] and/or [[GoddamnedBats annoying]] Reaverbots in the game. At least it's got some [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ex61b-Tujc good music]] for you to listen to. By extension the Kimotama Caverns fall into this category as well, just without the cool music (you instead get the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrAFM1tLkzs Clozer Woods ruin music]] from the first game, which is more NightmareFuel / HellIsThatNoise than anything).

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** The Nino Ruins in ''2'', which isn't suprising considering it's a DownTheDrain area and has all of its trappings: most of it has you moving veeeeery sloooooowly through water (which also messes with your jumping physics, making it harder to dodge enemies), is labyrinthine and very, ''very'' [[MarathonLevel long]], and it's packed to the brim with some of the more [[SmashMook tedious]] and/or [[GoddamnedBats annoying]] Reaverbots in the game. At least it's got some [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ex61b-Tujc good music]] for you to listen to. By extension the Kimotama Caverns fall into this category as well, just without the cool music (you instead get the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrAFM1tLkzs Clozer Woods ruin music]] from the first game, which is more NightmareFuel / HellIsThatNoise than anything).
9th Apr '17 7:52:50 AM Tylerbear12
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*** Finally, ''Mega Man Legends 3'' was cancelled around the time another game called ''Mega Man Universe'' was cancelled; which was a de facto revival of a series just starting to go dormant, and was literally billed by Capcom as a celebration of the ''Mega Man'' franchise as a whole, making both cancellations feel like kicks to the teeth for the fandom. Now it felt like Capcom was intentionally trying to kill the franchise; indeed, since the cancellation of ''Legends 3'', the only ''Mega Man''-related media released has been ''Mega Man'''s appearance in the latest ''Super Smash Bros.'' game and the ongoing Archie Comics series. Even worse as Inafune's attempted SpiritualSuccessor to Mega Man, ''VideoGame/MightyNo9''; [[HopeSpot utterly crashed and burned on release]] in 2016! Thankfully, things started to turn around when the first six games of the classic series were re-released that same year on [=PS4=], Xbox One, the Wii U and [=3DS=], and Steam; with new HD 8-bit graphics, a challenge mode, and a museum featuring an exhaustive collection of sketches. Months prior, a new animated television series by Man of Action (the creator of ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' and ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'') was announced, with a projected premiere date of 2017 on Creator/CartoonNetwork.

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*** Finally, ''Mega Man Legends 3'' was cancelled around the time another game called ''Mega Man Universe'' was cancelled; which was a de facto revival of a series just starting to go dormant, and was literally billed by Capcom as a celebration of the ''Mega Man'' franchise as a whole, making both cancellations feel like kicks to the teeth for the fandom. Now it felt like Capcom was intentionally trying to kill the franchise; indeed, since the cancellation of ''Legends 3'', the only ''Mega Man''-related media released has been ''Mega Man'''s appearance in the latest ''Super Smash Bros.'' game and the ongoing Archie Comics series. Even worse as Inafune's attempted SpiritualSuccessor to Mega Man, ''VideoGame/MightyNo9''; [[HopeSpot utterly crashed and burned on release]] in 2016! Thankfully, things started are starting to turn around though when the first six games of the classic series were re-released that same year in 2015 on [=PS4=], Xbox One, UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation 4}}, UsefulNotes/{{Xbox One}}, the Wii U UsefulNotes/{{Nintendo 3DS}}, and [=3DS=], and Steam; UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} with a new HD 8-bit graphics, a challenge mode, and a museum featuring an exhaustive collection of sketches. Months prior, and a new animated television series by Man of Action (the creator of ''WesternAnimation/Ben10'' and ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'') was announced, with a projected premiere date of 2017 2018 on Creator/CartoonNetwork.Creator/CartoonNetwork. Though considering [[BrokenBase the extremely mixed reception of the cartoon so far]] and the lack of any new game announcements aside from ports of the NES games, it's very doubtful that Mega Man is out just yet.
5th Mar '17 10:25:02 AM StFan
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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Juno, the FinalBoss from the first game, big time. You can literally run around in circles shooting and dodging all of his attacks easily, and this was even worse if you used the fully charged [[GameBreaker Shining Laser]] in the fight.]]
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as Juno himself points out: he's not designed for combat while Trigger is. Of course he's going to be rather easy.

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* AnticlimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Juno, the FinalBoss from the first game, big time. You can literally run around in circles shooting and dodging all of his attacks easily, and this was is even worse if you used uses the fully charged [[GameBreaker Shining Laser]] in the fight.]]
** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]]
]] {{Justified|Trope}} as Juno himself points out: he's not designed for combat while Trigger is. Of course he's going to be rather easy.



* DemonicSpiders: Sharukurusus, the humanoid Reaverbots, in both games - they run fast, hit hard, and can leap to avoid shots. They also appear in packs, so you may be blasting away at one and fail to hear the clanking footsteps until its friend impales you. And in the first game, there's even an ''[[InvisibleMonsters invisible version]]'' that only reveals itself when it's just about to impale you.

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* DemonicSpiders: DemonicSpiders:
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Sharukurusus, the humanoid Reaverbots, in both games - -- they run fast, hit hard, and can leap to avoid shots. They also appear in packs, so you may be blasting away at one and fail to hear the clanking footsteps until its friend impales you. And in the first game, there's even an ''[[InvisibleMonsters invisible version]]'' that only reveals itself when it's just about to impale you.



** Tron and the Servbots (along with X and Zero) are set to appear in ''ProjectXZone''. Tron has now officially made more appearances (outside of cameos) than Volnutt has.

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** Tron and the Servbots (along with X and Zero) are set to appear in ''ProjectXZone''.''VideoGame/ProjectXZone''. Tron has now officially made more appearances (outside of cameos) than Volnutt has.



* InNameOnly: Much like with the ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'' series, it could be very easily argued that this series has little, if anything, to do with any of the other series in the main timeline in both gameplay and story. ''Videogame/MegaManX7'', regardless of quality, could be seen as a more faithful transition to 3D than the Legends games. Of course, this is a handy example of TropesAreNotBad, as MegaManX7 is usually viewed as awful, while the Legends series is considered a string of classics.

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* InNameOnly: Much like with the ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork'' and ''VideoGame/MegaManStarForce'' series, it could be very easily argued that this series has little, if anything, to do with any of the other series in the main timeline in both gameplay and story. ''Videogame/MegaManX7'', regardless of quality, could be seen as a more faithful transition to 3D than the Legends ''Legends'' games. Of course, this is a handy example of TropesAreNotBad, as MegaManX7 ''Mega Man X7'' is usually viewed as awful, while the Legends ''Legends'' series is considered a string of classics.
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