History YMMV / MegaManZero

17th Oct '17 2:54:47 AM Tenma-Yuuki
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* BrokenBase: No, really. [[spoiler:Zero's death]] is still a hot debate. And, remember that the ''Zero'' series officially ended ''in 2005''.
** ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: Thanks to that long-standing argument, no one would be surprised about Zero's fate now.]]
** Well, kind of. [[spoiler: The Official Complete Works didn't really elaborate on his fate, and at best stated that he was missing in space. For a thing that would elaborate on a lot of things in the ''Zero'' mythos, it really seemed to screw up when it came to revealing Zero's fate.]]

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* BrokenBase: No, really. [[spoiler:Zero's death]] is still a hot debate. And, And remember that the ''Zero'' series officially ended ''in 2005''.
** ItWasHisSled: [[spoiler: Thanks to that long-standing argument, no one would be surprised about Zero's fate now.]]
** Well, kind of. [[spoiler: The Official Complete Works didn't really elaborate on his fate, and at best stated that he was missing in space. For a thing that would elaborate on a lot of things in the ''Zero'' mythos, it really seemed to screw up when it came to revealing Zero's fate.]]
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24th Sep '17 4:46:47 PM calamity2007
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** The weapon proficiency system in the first game is also considered to be a pain. Because of his memory loss Zero needs to "relearn" many basic techniques, such as multiple Z-Saber slashes. This can require many players to level grind just to stand against early bosses effectively. In addition the retry system is also dated due to lives being very rare. Meaning that if you lose all your retries in a level you will need to either start from the last save point or give up the mission, and in the case of the later you don't get your retries back. Thankfully these were both improved upon in the sequels.
16th Aug '17 7:49:18 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Dr. Weil]] is notable for being one of the most evil beings in the ''Franchise/MegaMan'' series despite only appearing in a few games. Following the peaceful resolution of the Maverick Wars by the sentient superprogram, the Mother Elf, Weil decided that Reploids needed to pay for their crimes. To this end, Weil corrupted Mother Elf by turning her into the Dark Elf, and triggered the Elf Wars. Weil used the Dark Elf and her children, the Baby Elves, to control Reploids and force them to fight each other in massive battles, which resulted in the deaths of 90% of all Reploids and 60% of all humans. Defeated, exiled and transferred into a mechanical body for his crimes, Weil eventually returned one hundred years later, consumed with a thirst for vengeance directed at all life for the perceived crimes against him. Weaseling his way into becoming the supreme ruler of Neo Arcadia, Weil turns it into a [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans dystopian hellhole]]. When he breaks his citizens to the point where they're desperate enough to risk escaping into the wastelands to form their own colony, Weil decides to obliterate their new home with a KillSat. When his KillSat is disabled, Weil attempts to [[ColonyDrop drop it upon the colony]], killing everyone in the region. Cruel, megalomaniacal and displaying an unprecedented level of sadism in the series, Weil reveled in the suffering of others and desired nothing less than to make human and reploid alike feel like their existences were living deaths.

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* CompleteMonster: [[BigBad Dr. Weil]] Weil]], known in Japan as [[NamesToRunAwayFrom Dr. Vile]], is notable for being one of the most evil beings in the ''Franchise/MegaMan'' series despite only appearing in a few games. Following the peaceful resolution of the Maverick Wars by the sentient superprogram, the Mother Elf, Weil decided that Reploids needed to pay for their crimes. To this end, Weil corrupted Mother Elf by turning her into the Dark Elf, and triggered the Elf Wars. Weil used the Dark Elf and her children, the Baby Elves, to control Reploids and force them to fight each other in massive battles, which resulted in the deaths of 90% of all Reploids and 60% of all humans. Defeated, exiled and transferred into a mechanical body for his crimes, Weil eventually returned one hundred years later, consumed with a thirst for vengeance directed at all life for the perceived crimes against him. Weaseling his way into becoming the supreme ruler of Neo Arcadia, Weil turns it into a [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans dystopian hellhole]]. When he breaks his citizens to the point where they're desperate enough to risk escaping into the wastelands to form their own colony, Weil decides to obliterate their new home with a KillSat. When his KillSat is disabled, Weil attempts to [[ColonyDrop drop it upon the colony]], killing everyone in the region. Cruel, megalomaniacal and displaying an unprecedented level of sadism in the series, Weil reveled in the suffering of others and desired nothing less than to make human and reploid alike feel like their existences were living deaths.
11th May '17 7:27:30 AM Prinzenick
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** Despite all of the buildup to him in the first game, Copy X is a surprisingly easy final boss, especially compared to the bosses and Four Guardians you just fought again beforehand, mainly due to his predictable, easy to avoid attack patterns and lack of stamina. The second phase has a few cheap attacks at its disposal that'll kill Zero in a hurry if you let your guard down, but as a trade-off, you can defeat him with just a few fully charged Z-Saber strikes.

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** Despite all of the buildup to him in the first game, Copy X is a surprisingly easy final boss, especially compared to the bosses and Four Guardians you just fought again beforehand, mainly due to his predictable, easy to avoid attack patterns and lack of stamina. The second phase has a few cheap attacks at its disposal that'll kill Zero in a hurry if you let your guard down, but as a trade-off, you can defeat him with just a few fully charged Z-Saber strikes. [[FridgeBrilliance It makes sense from a story standpoint]], since it hammers home that he's an inferior copy of X.
10th May '17 9:11:24 PM Prinzenick
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** Despite all of the buildup to him in the first game, Copy X is a surprisingly easy final boss, especially compared to the bosses and Four Guardians you just fought again beforehand, mainly due to his predictable, easy to avoid attack patterns and lack of stamina. The second phase has a few cheap attacks at its disposal that'll kill Zero in a hurry if you let your guard down, but as a trade-off, you can defeat him with just a few fully charged Z-Saber strikes.
10th May '17 7:07:30 PM Prinzenick
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* HilariousInHindsight: Zero gets involved in a [[LaResistance rebellion]] in order to take down an oppressive government. [[Anime/CodeGeass Now why should]] ''[[Anime/CodeGeass that]]'' [[Anime/CodeGeass sound familiar?]]

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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Zero gets involved in a [[LaResistance rebellion]] in order to take down an oppressive government. [[Anime/CodeGeass Now why should]] ''[[Anime/CodeGeass that]]'' [[Anime/CodeGeass sound familiar?]]familiar?]]
** During the "Stop The Hacking" mission in the first game, Ciel tells Zero to [[VideoGame/ShadowTheHedgehog "Find the]] [[MemeticMutation computer room."]]
16th Apr '17 12:43:24 PM nombretomado
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** ''Zero 2's'' Power Room stage, filled to the brim with lava and exploding Telebombs and not much room to maneuver. The stage design is very different from the others, where you have to find 4 chambers with generators; it doesn't have a finish, and you only fight the boss when you destroy the final generator. And to top it off, the boss is an absolute nightmare. Worse still, one of the Cyber Elves hidden here is pure GuideDangIt material. You essentially have to play ''SpaceInvaders'' in one section, kill every enemy while being blocked by moving platforms that hurt you if you touch them, and after that have to hit the fast-moving UFO in the three seconds from when it emerges to when it leaves.

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** ''Zero 2's'' Power Room stage, filled to the brim with lava and exploding Telebombs and not much room to maneuver. The stage design is very different from the others, where you have to find 4 chambers with generators; it doesn't have a finish, and you only fight the boss when you destroy the final generator. And to top it off, the boss is an absolute nightmare. Worse still, one of the Cyber Elves hidden here is pure GuideDangIt material. You essentially have to play ''SpaceInvaders'' ''VideoGame/SpaceInvaders'' in one section, kill every enemy while being blocked by moving platforms that hurt you if you touch them, and after that have to hit the fast-moving UFO in the three seconds from when it emerges to when it leaves.
3rd Apr '17 9:26:57 PM DoctorCooper
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* BrokenBase: No, really. [[spoiler:Zero's death]] is still a hot debate, no matter the [[{{Jossed}} Jossing]]. And, remember that the ''Zero'' series officially ended ''in 2005''.

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* BrokenBase: No, really. [[spoiler:Zero's death]] is still a hot debate, no matter the [[{{Jossed}} Jossing]].debate. And, remember that the ''Zero'' series officially ended ''in 2005''.



* {{Moe}}: Ciel, see TheWoobie below.

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* {{Moe}}: Ciel, see TheWoobie below.with her looks of a child and her big eyes.



** Phantom is this when compared to the other Guardians. Unlike the others, he's NonElemental, thus he has no weakness. You can interrupt most of the other Guardians' attacks; for Phantom, you can only intercept his DashAttack. He also plays it nasty with said attack - if you jump over it, he'll quickly dash back to you; if you interrupt it, he may sometimes resume the attack. He also has a DoppelgangerSpin attack where, if you hit the wrong Phantom, he'll do a powerful counterattack; he might also quickly dash at you if you're close to the real him. During the second fight with him, he has a KaizoTrap attack should you defeat him. In the secret fight against him in the third game, a number of his attacks are upgraded - his FuumaShuriken move shoots spreads of kunai multiple times, and his zigzag floating move has him spamming spreads of kunai while floating.

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** Phantom is this when compared to the other Guardians. Unlike the others, he's NonElemental, thus he has no weakness. You can interrupt most of the other Guardians' attacks; for Phantom, you can only intercept his DashAttack. He also plays it nasty with said attack - if you jump over it, he'll quickly dash back to you; if you interrupt it, he may sometimes resume the attack. He also has a DoppelgangerSpin attack where, if you hit the wrong Phantom, he'll do a powerful counterattack; he might also quickly dash at you if you're close to the real him. Some temporary phantoms may appear when Phantom is using the doppelganer spin and contact with them causes big damage. During the second fight with him, he has a KaizoTrap attack should you defeat him. In the secret fight against him in the third game, a number of his attacks are upgraded - his FuumaShuriken move shoots spreads of kunai multiple times, and his zigzag floating move has him spamming spreads of kunai while floating.
21st Mar '17 7:46:44 AM Valen
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* HesJustHiding: Since even official materials go back and forth on whether or not [[spoiler:Zero]] died on Ragnarok and [[spoiler:he]] has a history of doing this, a common fan belief is that [[spoiler:Zero]] survived somehow and just vanished. Made even more confusing in ''VideoGame/MegaManZX'' since [[spoiler:Zero ''does'' reappear, but as a Biometal. Because of this, it doesn't give either argument anything to work with]].
19th Mar '17 11:28:16 AM TheNewBig
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** ''That being said,'' Sigma (and by proxy, Weil) was only ''partially'' right - there's obviously ''some'' humans who think like that, but in this series, considering all of Neo Arcadia's propaganda, who would blame them? To say that all HumansAreBastards in this instance would be to use the same fallacy that Yggdrasil used in Anime/DigimonSavers (using evidence of the actions of one CompleteMonster[[note]]who, amusingly enough, was a ''lot'' like Weil[[/note]] to tar humanity with the same brush). Plus, part of Dr. Weil's motivation (according to the supplemental material and before he jumped off the slippery slope) was that he was getting back at the Reploids for their constant violent uprisings, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy which were heavily precipitated by the Sigma Virus.]] Of course, his logic is no different as Sigma's, tarring ''repoidkind'' with the same brush by holding the entire race responsible for what terrorists and criminals members of their race have chosen to do.

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** ''That being said,'' Sigma (and by proxy, Weil) was only ''partially'' right - there's obviously ''some'' humans who think like that, but in this series, considering all of Neo Arcadia's propaganda, who would blame them? To say that all HumansAreBastards in this instance would be to use the same fallacy that Yggdrasil used in Anime/DigimonSavers (using evidence of the actions of one CompleteMonster[[note]]who, amusingly enough, was a ''lot'' like Weil[[/note]] to tar humanity with the same brush). Plus, part of Besides, Dr. Weil's motivation (according to the supplemental material Weil himself is hardly a shining example of humanity. He's just as evil and before he jumped off the slippery slope) was that he was getting back at the Reploids for their constant violent uprisings, [[SelfFulfillingProphecy which were heavily precipitated by the twisted as Sigma Virus.]] Of course, his logic is no different as Sigma's, is, tarring ''repoidkind'' ''Reploidkind'' with the same brush by holding the entire race them all responsible for what terrorists the crimes of criminal and criminals terrorist members of their race have chosen to do. race, and eventually just throwing away the pretenses altogether in favor of waging devastating wars for his own satisfaction.
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