History YMMV / MeanGirls

26th Aug '17 8:04:38 AM fearlessnikki
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: It's meant to be a low moment for Cady when she doesn't own up to her crimes at the assembly. However some viewers find it quite reasonable that Cady wouldn't want to admit writing something in the Burn Book in front of the entire school - especially since that would lead to her getting blamed for it all, and probably blow the whistle on Gretchen and Karen too involuntarily.




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** Joining the Mathletes is "social suicide" - or described as such by other characters. Cady also pretends to be dumb to get Aaron to help her with math. This is more reflective of the early 2000s where it was considered cool to act dumb, and intelligence was mocked and bullied more than it is today. DumbIsGood was a more widespread trope at the time.
3rd Jul '17 4:26:37 PM SPBurke
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* EndingFatigue: The movie really loses steam after the student riot and the following assembly. By the time they get to crowning Cady at the end, you're a lot like Tim Meadows in that you just want it wrapped up already.
3rd Jul '17 1:28:54 AM mouschilight
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3rd Jul '17 1:26:52 AM mouschilight
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** Regina herself appears to care for the other Plastics in her own twisted way. When Jason is two-timing Gretchen, she gets revenge. She gives Cady a makeover and compliments her appearance. And she seems genuinely hurt when her friends turn against her - especially when she finds out everything Cady did to her. How much of these pet the dog moments are genuine, or for a cheap narcissistic laugh or [[TakeAThirdOption both]].

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** Regina herself appears to care for the other Plastics in her own twisted way. When Jason is two-timing Gretchen, she gets revenge. She gives Cady a makeover and compliments her appearance. And she seems genuinely hurt when her friends turn against her - especially when she finds out everything Cady did to her. How much of these pet the dog PetTheDog moments are genuine, or for a cheap narcissistic laugh or [[TakeAThirdOption both]].



** The fact that the film was toned down to PG-13 after Lindsay Lohan was cast, due to her being too "family-friendly" to star in an R-rated film. And that Lindsay Lohan worried that starring in the film as a "mean girl" would hurt her rep.

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** The fact that the film was toned down to PG-13 after Lindsay Lohan Creator/LindsayLohan was cast, due to her being too "family-friendly" to star in an R-rated film.film at the time. And that Lindsay Lohan worried that starring in the film as a "mean girl" would hurt her rep.



** The fact that Lindsay Lohan was the only actress to go under the knife, in a movie that labels the ''villains'' as "plastic".
** If one watches season 6 of ''Series/PartyOfFive'', Lacey Chabert's character plays a Cady-type character to a Regina type (though this one is more of a LovableAlphaBitch).

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** The fact that Lindsay Lohan Creator/LindsayLohan was the only actress to go under the knife, in a movie that labels the ''villains'' as "plastic".
** If one watches season 6 of ''Series/PartyOfFive'', Lacey Chabert's Creator/LaceyChabert's character plays a Cady-type character to a Regina type (though this one is more of a LovableAlphaBitch).



** Lizzy Caplan as Janis Ian. Anybody who's seen her in anything else she's done (especially ''Series/TrueBlood'' and ''Series/MastersOfSex'') knows that she is drop-dead gorgeous in real life. In fact, she almost didn't get the part, as the casting director [[AbilityOverAppearance thought she was too pretty at first]]. As such the costume designers deliberately gave her an alternative/goth type look, rather than trying to dress her down. Caplan's beauty is probably a contributing factor to the theory that Janis is a former Queen Bee.
** Averted with Gretchen, who was originally written as a much homelier character who was only popular because she was rich. This was changed when Lacey Chabert was cast in the role, and while the occasional line to this effect still shows up, it can easily be written off more as cattiness than her actually being viewed as unattractive.
* HollywoodPudgy: Regina's weight gain is almost entirely informed. Wardrobe allegedly stuffed Rachel [=McAdams=]' sweatpants and gave her an oversized hoodie to give her the appearance of having gained weight... but her upper half is swimming in the hoodie, and the pants only appear to be a trifle snug.

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** Lizzy Caplan Creator/LizzyCaplan as Janis Ian. Anybody who's seen her in anything else she's done (especially ''Series/TrueBlood'' and ''Series/MastersOfSex'') knows that she is drop-dead gorgeous in real life. In fact, she almost didn't get the part, as the casting director [[AbilityOverAppearance thought she was too pretty at first]]. As such the costume designers deliberately gave her an alternative/goth type look, rather than trying to dress her down. Caplan's beauty is probably a contributing factor to the theory that Janis is a former Queen Bee.
** Averted with Gretchen, who was originally written as a much homelier character who was only popular because she was rich. This was changed when Lacey Chabert Creator/LaceyChabert was cast in the role, and while the occasional line to this effect still shows up, it can easily be written off more as cattiness than her actually being viewed as unattractive.
* HollywoodPudgy: Regina's weight gain is almost entirely informed. Wardrobe allegedly stuffed Rachel [=McAdams=]' Creator/RachelMcAdams's sweatpants and gave her an oversized hoodie to give her the appearance of having gained weight... but her upper half is swimming in the hoodie, and the pants only appear to be a trifle snug.



** We notice how a silly rumor based on an offhand comment got Ms Norbury into serious legal trouble. Thankfully averted when Cady owns up to the rumor, but imagine how this suspicion of drug dealing would have utterly ruined a teacher's career and life.

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** We notice how a silly rumor based on an offhand comment got Ms Ms. Norbury into serious legal trouble. Thankfully averted when Cady owns up to the rumor, but imagine how this suspicion of drug dealing would have utterly ruined a teacher's career and life.



** And even a few SNL aficionados by way of Tina Fey. ''Still'' very much related to Testosterone Brigade in this case.

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** And even a few SNL aficionados by way of Tina Fey.Creator/TinaFey. ''Still'' very much related to Testosterone Brigade in this case.



* TestosteroneBrigade: While written by [[Creator/TinaFey a woman]] and marketed heavily to teen girls, it was released at the height of Creator/LindsayLohan's [[HollywoodHypeMachine "it girl"]] popularity, and features Lohan and a number of other young women in provocative dress throughout. Lots of men went to see it for the hot high school chicks. Creator/BellaThorne, when promoting ''Film/TheDuff'' on Creator/TheBBC's Radio 1, invoked this when trying to persuade the DJ's producer (a man) to see ''Mean Girls''[[note]]that's right, she was promoting a different movie - luckily Paramount and CBS Films, which made ''The DUFF'', are part of the same corporate family[[/note]], pointing out its brilliance and adding "Plus it's [[Creator/LindsayLohan got]] [[Creator/RachelMcAdams four]] [[Creator/LaceyChabert hot]] [[Creator/AmandaSeyfried girls]]."

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* TestosteroneBrigade: While written by [[Creator/TinaFey a woman]] and marketed heavily to teen girls, it was released at the height of Creator/LindsayLohan's [[HollywoodHypeMachine "it girl"]] popularity, and features Lohan and a number of other young women in provocative dress throughout. Lots of men went to see it for the hot high school chicks. Creator/BellaThorne, when promoting ''Film/TheDuff'' on Creator/TheBBC's Radio 1, invoked this when trying to persuade the DJ's producer (a man) to see ''Mean Girls''[[note]]that's Girls''[[note]]That's right, she was promoting a different movie - luckily Paramount and CBS Films, which made ''The DUFF'', are part of the same corporate family[[/note]], pointing out its brilliance and adding "Plus it's [[Creator/LindsayLohan got]] [[Creator/RachelMcAdams four]] [[Creator/LaceyChabert hot]] [[Creator/AmandaSeyfried girls]]."






* {{Sequelitis}}: Apart from the element of Jo creating a group of Anti-Plastics and the climactic football game, the film is pretty much a remake of the first film, without the laughs. Also Jo's friends turning against her is extremely forced. Tina Fey repeatedly turned down offers to make the sequel. Now that the sequel was done without her, she regrets turning down the offer.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: Apart from the element of Jo creating a group of Anti-Plastics and the climactic football game, the film is pretty much a remake of the first film, without the laughs. Also Jo's friends turning against her is extremely forced. Tina Fey Creator/TinaFey repeatedly turned down offers to make the sequel. Now that the sequel was done without her, she regrets turning down the offer.
3rd Jun '17 5:07:55 PM fearlessnikki
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* NightmareFuel: There are young boys being raised to believe that gay people should be hunted with Remington bolt action rifles.

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There are young boys being raised to believe that gay people should be hunted with Remington bolt action rifles.



** Regina's mom is apparently just fine with giving under-18 year old teenagers alcohol, if they ask her for it. Considering how alcohol consumption has amplified effects on minors ...

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** Regina's mom is apparently just fine with giving under-18 year old teenagers alcohol, if they ask her for it. Considering how alcohol consumption has amplified effects on minors ...minors...



* PopularityPolynomial: Mean Girls was moderately successful when it first came out before fading into obscurity. Its popularity suddenly exploded in TheNewTens into [[MemeticMutation one of the most quoted movies ever]].

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* PopularityPolynomial: Mean Girls ''Mean Girls'' was moderately successful when it first came out before fading into obscurity. Its popularity suddenly exploded in TheNewTens into [[MemeticMutation one of the most quoted movies ever]].


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* ValuesDissonance:
** The line where Regina's mother says Cady can have alcohol in the house is meant to be another example of how under Regina's thumb she is. In Europe, particularly the UK and Ireland, underage drinking is not quite as big a deal. Several parents allow their teenagers to have little amounts of alcohol at home - so as not to have them going mad when out with friends.
** Janis's reputation was destroyed by Regina claiming she was a lesbian. This reflects the attitudes towards gays in the early 2000s, where being MistakenForGay could make someone an outcast. Such a thing wouldn't fly in TheNewTens, when acceptance of gays became more mainstream.
24th May '17 6:33:40 PM benda
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** Though it also counts as a HarsherInHindsight depending on your view, the movie follows [[Creator/LindsayLohan Cady]] as she falls in with the wrong crowd and goes from a mild-mannered nice girl into a party-happy temperamental bitch. Lohan's constant arrests and trips to rehab afterwards have led to the [[MemeticMutation widespread idea]] that Regina got the last laugh on Cady in the end. [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mean_girls_xl_05--film-A.jpg This shot]] has become surprisingly prophetic.[[note]]Yes, that is Lohan in the garbage bin.[[/note]]



** Though it also counts as a HarsherInHindsight depending on your view, the movie follows [[Creator/LindsayLohan Cady]] as she falls in with the wrong crowd and goes from a mild-mannered nice girl into a party-happy temperamental bitch. Lohan's constant arrests and trips to rehab afterwards have led to the [[MemeticMutation widespread idea]] that Regina got the last laugh on Cady in the end. [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mean_girls_xl_05--film-A.jpg This shot]] has become surprisingly prophetic.[[note]]Yes, that is Lohan in the garbage bin.[[/note]]
23rd Apr '17 11:07:10 PM TywinIsGod
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** Regina's mom is apparently just fine with giving teenagers alcohol, if they ask her for it. Considering how alcohol consumption has amplified effects on minors ...

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** Regina's mom is apparently just fine with giving under-18 year old teenagers alcohol, if they ask her for it. Considering how alcohol consumption has amplified effects on minors ...
24th Mar '17 5:00:02 AM TywinIsGod
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** Janis Ian's plan is to slowly ruin Regina's life by bringing her down one piece at a time. Get rid of her boyfriend, trick her into gaining weight and turn her friends against her. All banking on the fact that Regina's ego wouldn't [[RefugeInAudacity believe in someone doing that to her]].

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** Janis Ian's plan is to slowly ruin Regina's life by bringing her down one piece at a time. Get rid of her boyfriend, trick her into gaining weight and turn her friends against her. All banking on the fact that Regina's ego [[SmugSnake ego]] wouldn't [[RefugeInAudacity believe in someone doing that to her]].
16th Mar '17 12:22:03 PM TywinIsGod
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** A fairly popular belief with fans is that back when Janis and Regina were friends, Janis was the [[AlphaBitch queen bee]] and Regina was the innocent friend (like Cady) who was [[FromNobodyToNightmare slowly evolving]]. Notably when Cady lies and says that there's nothing about Janis in the Burn Book, Janis seems annoyed (perhaps narcissism that the girls aren't even talking about her full stop?) - and at times Janis seems just as bitchy as Regina.
** Regina herself appears to care for the other Plastics in her own twisted way. When Jason is two-timing Gretchen, she gets revenge. She gives Cady a makeover and compliments her appearance. And she seems genuinely hurt when her friends turn against her - especially when she finds out everything Cady did to her. How much of these pets dog moments are genuine, or for a cheap narcissistic laugh or [[TakeAThirdOption both]].

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** A fairly popular belief with fans is that back when Janis and Regina were friends, Janis was the [[AlphaBitch queen bee]] and Regina was the innocent friend (like Cady) who was [[FromNobodyToNightmare slowly evolving]]. Notably when Cady lies and says that there's nothing about Janis in the Burn Book, Janis seems annoyed (perhaps narcissism that the girls aren't even talking about her full stop?) - and at times Janis seems just as bitchy as Regina.
Regina and is more of a DirtyCoward to boot.
** Regina herself appears to care for the other Plastics in her own twisted way. When Jason is two-timing Gretchen, she gets revenge. She gives Cady a makeover and compliments her appearance. And she seems genuinely hurt when her friends turn against her - especially when she finds out everything Cady did to her. How much of these pets pet the dog moments are genuine, or for a cheap narcissistic laugh or [[TakeAThirdOption both]].
12th Mar '17 3:45:03 AM Xtifr
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* GeniusBonus: The whole "We should kill Caesar" speech may just be a history report, but when taken out of context, it sounds like something an actual Roman senator would say about Creator/JuliusCaesar.

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* GeniusBonus: The whole "We should kill Caesar" speech may just be a history report, but when taken out of context, it sounds like something an actual Roman senator would say about Creator/JuliusCaesar.UsefulNotes/JuliusCaesar.
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