History YMMV / MawaruPenguindrum

23rd Feb '16 5:19:49 AM GlitteringFlowers
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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale: ''Penguindrum'' has the adult [[spoiler:Yuri]]'s attempted rape of [[spoiler:Ringo]], an underage sixteen-year old girl. On one hand, the rape isn't exactly portrayed as ''okay'', and it's made clear that the rapist is a messed-up person. However, the rape is used to develop the rapist's character and segue into the rapist's backstory, which gives off the vibe of rationalizing and excusing her actions, whereas the victim is reduced to a mere prop and has an uncomfortable amount of MaleGaze fanservice applied to her -- which ''may'' have been intended as FanDisservice, but the sheer exploitative nature of it makes the claim fall flat. The details of the rape are inconsistent from one episode to the next, with the rape being portrayed as rape one episode and as a titillating seduction in the next, and whether or not the rapist actually went through with it or not is ambiguous; the rescue attempt is played for comedy, and only happens due to a hideous amount of contrivity. Furthermore, the victim is completely unaffected by the ordeal and the rapist gets off with absolutely no repercussions for her actions, and the whole scene affects practically ''nothing'' in the grand scheme of the story and is quickly forgotten afterwards, save for being the subject of a brief joke a couple of episodes later, wasting a lot of character and story potential on top of everything else; in fact, the scene could be completely cut out of the story with little to no loss. The shoddy handling of the scene really smacks of the writers writing themselves into a corner and hastily retconning the story in an attempt to fix it, and given all the above, it's no surprise that some viewers consider this part of ''Penguindrum'' to be one of the lowest points in the series.
4th Oct '15 2:39:54 AM yuri999
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* DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale: ''Penguindrum'' has the adult [[spoiler:Yuri]]'s attempted rape of [[spoiler:Ringo]], an underage sixteen-year old girl. On one hand, the rape isn't exactly portrayed as ''okay'', and it's made clear that the rapist is a messed-up person. However, the rape is used to develop the rapist's character and segue into the rapist's backstory, which gives off the vibe of rationalizing and excusing her actions, whereas the victim is reduced to a mere prop and has an uncomfortable amount of MaleGaze fanservice applied to her -- which ''may'' have been intended as FanDisservice, but the sheer exploitative nature of it makes the claim fall flat. The details of the rape are inconsistent from one episode to the next, with the rape being portrayed as rape one episode and as a titillating seduction in the next, and whether or not the rapist actually went through with it or not is ambiguous; the rescue attempt is played for comedy, and only happens due to a hideous amount of contrivity. Furthermore, the victim is completely unaffected by the ordeal and the rapist gets off with absolutely no repercussions for her actions, and the whole scene affects practically ''nothing'' in the grand scheme of the story and is quickly forgotten afterwards, save for being the subject of a brief joke a couple of episodes later, wasting a lot of character and story potential on top of everything else; in fact, the scene could be completely cut out of the story with little to no loss. The shoddy handling of the scene really smacks of the writers writing themselves into a corner and hastily retconning the story in an attempt to fix it, and given all the above, it's no surprise that some viewers consider this part of ''Penguindrum'' to be one of the lowest points in the series.
25th Sep '15 7:13:43 PM lalaTKG
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** Seeing Kanba blush when he's being [[spoiler: complimented by his parents in episode 19]] is cute, but when you find out [[spoiler: he's actually talking to his parents rotting corpses and the living parents are just a delusion he constructed to not feel horrible about what he's doing]] it's just heartbreaking.

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** Seeing Kanba blush when he's being [[spoiler: complimented by his parents in episode 19]] is cute, but when you find out [[spoiler: he's actually talking to his parents parents' rotting corpses and the living parents are just a delusion he constructed to not feel horrible about what he's doing]] it's just heartbreaking.
21st Sep '15 9:52:16 PM nombretomado
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* EarWorm: Both the opening, "[[NorseMythology Nornir]]", and the ending, "Dear Future".

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* EarWorm: Both the opening, "[[NorseMythology "[[Myth/NorseMythology Nornir]]", and the ending, "Dear Future".
27th Aug '15 5:10:27 AM Rjinswand
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* MemeticMolester - MemeticSexGod: Sanetoshi flips flops between these two tropes. On one hand it's rather creepy to see him looming close [[{{Ephebophile}} to a 13-year-old girl like Himari]] in rather suspicious attitudes ([[Memes/{{Anime}} and getting Kanba]] [[{{Netorare}} NTR'd]]); on the other the guy is simply ''[[{{Bishonen}} gorgeous]]'', [[MagnificentBastard very smooth and smart]], and has a rather nice voice.

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* MemeticMolester - MemeticSexGod: Sanetoshi flips flops between these two tropes. On one hand it's MemeticMolester: Sanetoshi. It's rather creepy to see him looming close [[{{Ephebophile}} to a 13-year-old girl like Himari]] in rather suspicious attitudes ([[Memes/{{Anime}} and getting Kanba]] [[{{Netorare}} NTR'd]]); on the other the guy is simply ''[[{{Bishonen}} gorgeous]]'', [[MagnificentBastard very smooth and smart]], and has a rather nice voice.NTR'd]]).
25th Aug '15 7:17:26 AM Adept
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* AdaptationDisplacement: A manga adaptation of this anime exists. Good luck trying to find out anything about it, though.
2nd Aug '15 11:56:17 PM honeycomet
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* AssPull: Some fans believe [[spoiler:Yuri's relationship and backstory with Momoka]] to be this, seeing as it comes with little foreshadowing. It doesn't help that the reveal comes hand-in-hand with a turn of events that come off as {{AssPull}}s themselves (see TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot and DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale for more details), and that the events make the reveal itself look even ''more'' like an AssPull given the absolute lack of attention given to [[spoiler:Yuri's attraction to Ringo]] both before and after.
* BaseBreaker: Depending on where you go, you either think that Ringo is an adorable and funny PluckyGirl who knows what she wants and will do her best to get her "Destiny" fulfilled and deserves a lot of sympathy for her genuinely sad backstory, or that she's a stupid, delusional, psychotic, stalker who's also [[spoiler: an attempted rapist]] who totally deserved to have [[spoiler: Himari's possessor]] insulting her all over as well as being locked up in a ward.
** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: ''Especially'' after episode 14. The scene in which [[spoiler: Shouma rejects her friendship/feelings because of the SinsOfOurFathers [[HeroicBSOD and she breaks down]] ]] was met in several circles with utter anger ''for poor Ringo's sake''.
*** Of course not all fans are broken up about it. [[spoiler: [[FanDumb Because some those in several circles act like she has done nothing wrong and that Shouma is wrong to reject her feelings even after abusing him, saving her life twice, and preventing her from raping a man once.]] Then act surprised when he rejects her because he has his own issues. (She ''is'' very sympathetic, people, but she's not a total innocent.)]] Some feel more sorry for Shouma as a result.
*** And others have taken a third option via feeling bad for ''both'' of them, since it's not exactly an easy situation for either kid. Then again, it's noticeable that ever since episode 6 explained her backstory, the sympathy for Ringo has steadily increased, reaching its peak in episode 14; people who professed their hate for her at first have been spotted rooting for her now.
** While Shouma still has many fans, he has also had detractors referring to him as [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass "weak" and "useless" and "inferior to]] [[MemeticBadass Kanba"]]. Then episode 19 rolls around and shows that [[spoiler: Shouma was the one who took Himari out of the Child Broiler and into the Takakura family.]] Cue the RAGE of many Kanba fans on /a/.

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* AssPull: Some fans believe [[spoiler:Yuri's relationship and backstory with Momoka]] to be this, seeing as it comes with little foreshadowing. It doesn't help that the reveal comes hand-in-hand with a turn of events that come off as {{AssPull}}s themselves (see TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot and DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale for more details), and that the events make the reveal itself look even ''more'' like an AssPull given the absolute lack of attention given to [[spoiler:Yuri's attraction to Ringo]] both before and after.
after. Not to mention that the event is resolved shoddily and heavily smacks of the writers writing themselves into a corner and hastily retconning themselves out of it, probably because they couldn't figure out how to fit [[spoiler:Yuri's plan to make Ringo into Momoka]] into the plot or handle the consequences of [[spoiler:Ringo being raped]], or both.
** Special mention goes to [[spoiler:Shoma's attempt to rescue Ringo from being raped by Yuri]]. It's ''hideously'' contrived to the point of absurdity and doesn't even manage to accomplish anything, both short- and long-term.
* BaseBreaker: BaseBreaker
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Depending on where you go, you either think that Ringo is an adorable and funny PluckyGirl who knows what she wants and will do her best to get her "Destiny" fulfilled and deserves a lot of sympathy for her genuinely sad backstory, or that she's a stupid, delusional, psychotic, stalker who's also [[spoiler: an attempted rapist]] who totally deserved to have [[spoiler: Himari's possessor]] insulting her all over as well as being locked up in a ward.
** *** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: ''Especially'' after episode 14. The scene in which [[spoiler: Shouma rejects her friendship/feelings because of the SinsOfOurFathers [[HeroicBSOD and she breaks down]] ]] was met in several circles with utter anger ''for poor Ringo's sake''.
*** **** Of course not all fans are broken up about it. [[spoiler: [[FanDumb Because some those in several circles act like she has done nothing wrong and that Shouma is wrong to reject her feelings even after abusing him, saving her life twice, and preventing her from raping a man once.]] Then act surprised when he rejects her because he has his own issues. (She ''is'' very sympathetic, people, but she's not a total innocent.)]] Some feel more sorry for Shouma as a result.
*** **** And others have taken a third option via feeling bad for ''both'' of them, since it's not exactly an easy situation for either kid. Then again, it's noticeable that ever since episode 6 explained her backstory, the sympathy for Ringo has steadily increased, reaching its peak in episode 14; people who professed their hate for her at first have been spotted rooting for her now.
** While Shouma still has many fans, he has also had detractors referring to him as [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass "weak" and "useless" and "inferior to]] [[MemeticBadass Kanba"]]. Then episode 19 rolls around and shows that [[spoiler: Shouma was the one who took Himari out of the Child Broiler and into the Takakura family.]] Cue the RAGE rage of many Kanba fans on /a/.
2nd Aug '15 12:08:20 AM honeycomet
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* AngstWhatAngst: Ringo shows absolutely no signs of trauma from [[spoiler:being kidnapped, drugged, and raped by Yuri]]. The closest she gets is a small amount of hesitation when [[spoiler:Yuri calls her to say that last time was "fun" and then invite her to dinner]].
* AssPull: Some fans believe [[spoiler:Yuri's relationship and backstory with Momoka]] to be this, seeing as it comes with little foreshadowing. It doesn't help that the reveal comes hand-in-hand with a turn of events that come off as {{AssPull}}s themselves (see TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot and DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnFemale for more details), and that the events make the reveal itself look even ''more'' like an AssPull given the absolute lack of attention given to [[spoiler:Yuri's attraction to Ringo]] both before and after.



** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: ''Specially'' after episode 14. The scene in which [[spoiler: Shouma rejects her friendship/feelings because of the SinsOfOurFathers [[HeroicBSOD and she breaks down]] ]] was met in several circles with utter anger ''for poor Ringo's sake''.

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** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: ''Specially'' ''Especially'' after episode 14. The scene in which [[spoiler: Shouma rejects her friendship/feelings because of the SinsOfOurFathers [[HeroicBSOD and she breaks down]] ]] was met in several circles with utter anger ''for poor Ringo's sake''.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Yuri trying to make Ringo into Momoka]]. Introduced in episode 14, then shoved into the background by other plot developments and pretty much dropped a few episodes later with little fanfare. Not to mention the non-existence of [[spoiler:the consequences of Yuri's rape]], as well as the incredibly awful handling of the event itself, wasting a lot of potential for character development. It doesn't help that the whole situation feels shoved into the plot for drama and to quickly explain Yuri's involvement in the plot to begin with, with said explanation clashing with earlier plot developments as well.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Yuri trying to make Ringo into Momoka]]. Introduced in episode 14, then shoved into the background by other plot developments and pretty much dropped a few episodes later with little fanfare. Not fanfare; not to mention the non-existence of [[spoiler:the consequences of Yuri's rape]], as well as the incredibly awful handling of the event itself, wasting a lot of potential for character development. It doesn't help that the whole situation feels shoved into the plot for drama and to quickly explain Yuri's involvement in the plot to begin with, with said explanation clashing with earlier plot developments as well.and characterization.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yuri is definitely played up to be sympathetic in the narrative, but it's hard to regard her as such when she unapologetically [[spoiler:kidnaps, drugs, and forces herself on an underage teenage girl]] out of ''hideously'' selfish reasons, gets away with no repercussions, and even makes a ''second attempt'' which luckily doesn't get off the ground. Not to mention that at the same time, Yuri also plots to [[spoiler:murder a sickly, completely innocent child merely because of her family relation]].

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yuri is definitely played up to be sympathetic in the narrative, but it's hard to regard her as such when she unapologetically [[spoiler:kidnaps, drugs, and forces herself on an underage teenage girl]] out of ''hideously'' selfish reasons, gets away with no repercussions, and even makes a ''second attempt'' which luckily doesn't get off the ground. Not to mention that at the same time, Yuri also plots to [[spoiler:murder a sickly, completely innocent child merely just because of her family relation]].
31st Jul '15 7:07:07 PM honeycomet
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Yuri trying to make Ringo into Momoka]]. Introduced in episode 14, then shoved into the background by other plot developments and pretty much dropped a few episodes later with little fanfare. Not to mention the non-existence of [[spoiler:the consequences of Yuri's rape]], as well as the incredibly awful handling of the event itself, wasting a lot of potential for character development.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Yuri trying to make Ringo into Momoka]]. Introduced in episode 14, then shoved into the background by other plot developments and pretty much dropped a few episodes later with little fanfare. Not to mention the non-existence of [[spoiler:the consequences of Yuri's rape]], as well as the incredibly awful handling of the event itself, wasting a lot of potential for character development. It doesn't help that the whole situation feels shoved into the plot for drama and to quickly explain Yuri's involvement in the plot to begin with, with said explanation clashing with earlier plot developments as well.



** There's also the fact that both of the canonically-confirmed lesbian characters in the show are [[spoiler:a rapist, attempted or otherwise, who gets away with her crimes]], and [[spoiler:an overly-jealous ex who stabs someone and gets away with her crimes]], respectively; made more insulting by the fact that the latter is a minor character with little-to-no impact on the plot that could've been easily cut out. Pointed out [[http://whiningaboutyuri.tumblr.com/post/91848009438/making-people-hate-me-for-dissing-ikuhara-part-1 here]] and [[http://yomigaere.tumblr.com/post/91855232832/making-people-hate-me-for-dissing-ikuhara-part-1 here]].

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** There's also the fact that both of the canonically-confirmed lesbian characters in the show are [[spoiler:a rapist, attempted or otherwise, who gets away with her crimes]], and [[spoiler:an overly-jealous ex who stabs someone and gets away with her crimes]], respectively; made more insulting by the fact that the latter is a minor character with little-to-no impact on the plot that could've been easily cut out.out, and the former ultimately ends up with a male character anyway. Pointed out [[http://whiningaboutyuri.tumblr.com/post/91848009438/making-people-hate-me-for-dissing-ikuhara-part-1 here]] and [[http://yomigaere.tumblr.com/post/91855232832/making-people-hate-me-for-dissing-ikuhara-part-1 here]].here]].
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Yuri is definitely played up to be sympathetic in the narrative, but it's hard to regard her as such when she unapologetically [[spoiler:kidnaps, drugs, and forces herself on an underage teenage girl]] out of ''hideously'' selfish reasons, gets away with no repercussions, and even makes a ''second attempt'' which luckily doesn't get off the ground. Not to mention that at the same time, Yuri also plots to [[spoiler:murder a sickly, completely innocent child merely because of her family relation]].
19th Jul '15 10:04:43 PM honeycomet
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* AdaptationDisplacement: A manga adaptation of this anime exists. Good luck trying to find out anything about it, though.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Yuri trying to make Ringo into Momoka]]. Introduced in episode 14, then shoved into the background by other plot developments and pretty much dropped a few episodes later with little fanfare. Not to mention the non-existence of [[spoiler:the consequences of Yuri's rape]], wasting a lot of potential for character development.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:Yuri trying to make Ringo into Momoka]]. Introduced in episode 14, then shoved into the background by other plot developments and pretty much dropped a few episodes later with little fanfare. Not to mention the non-existence of [[spoiler:the consequences of Yuri's rape]], as well as the incredibly awful handling of the event itself, wasting a lot of potential for character development.
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