History YMMV / MastersOfRome

30th Dec '15 6:34:02 PM MagBas
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* CanonSue: Caesar can verge on this; of course, with a historical figure who ''did'' accomplish so much, it's difficult to tell where to draw the line.



* FridgeBrilliance: If you get annoyed at the MarySue depiction of Gaius Julius Caesar, you might eventually realise that the story has been written in the form of propaganda written by [[WrittenBytheWinners Augustus]]. It was entirely in his advantage to present Caesar as a MarySue, and depict all of his enemies as bickering petty men.
* GodModeSue: Caesar is smarter, tougher, stronger, braver and more morally decent than anyone else in the books by a ridiculous measure. In line with the DeliberateValuesDissonance, though, he really can't see anything but Roman traditional values.

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* FridgeBrilliance: If you get annoyed at the MarySue depiction of Gaius Julius Caesar, you might eventually realise that the story has been written in the form of propaganda written by [[WrittenBytheWinners Augustus]]. It was entirely in his advantage to present Caesar as a MarySue, awesome, and depict all of his enemies as bickering petty men.
* GodModeSue: Caesar is smarter, tougher, stronger, braver and more morally decent than anyone else in the books by a ridiculous measure. In line with the DeliberateValuesDissonance, though, he really can't see anything but Roman traditional values.
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21st Oct '14 9:23:18 AM jimmca
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* EvilMatriarch: Servilia to Brutus. Servilia may be the most ambitious character in the series and Brutus is rather...mediocre, to be kind. She does a lot of despicable things so she and Brutus advance in Rome. And she's also just kinda cruel.
16th Feb '14 12:26:20 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Quintus Servilius Caepio: for starters he [[spoiler:steals a fortune in gold that legally belonged to Rome having several hundred Roman troops murdered by bandits to conceal the identity of the thief.]] Then he [[spoiler:causes the worst military disaster in Roman history because, coming from an [[AristocratsAreEvil immensely aristocratic background]], he considers himself above working with the low born consul appointed to fight a massive barbarian invasion. Caepio survives the battle by stealing a boat and abandoning his entire army to their deaths.]] His granddaughter Servilia is worse if anything.)

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* CompleteMonster: Quintus Servilius Caepio: for starters he [[spoiler:steals Caepio starts by stealing a fortune in gold that legally belonged to Rome Rome, having several hundred Roman troops murdered by bandits to conceal the identity of the thief.]] thief. Then he [[spoiler:causes causes the worst military disaster in Roman history because, coming from an [[AristocratsAreEvil immensely aristocratic background]], background, he considers himself above working with the low born lowborn consul appointed to fight a massive barbarian invasion. Caepio survives the battle by stealing a boat and abandoning his entire army to their deaths.]] His granddaughter Servilia is worse if anything.)
23rd May '13 9:03:10 AM DesignatedNPC
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* CanonSue (Caesar can verge on this; of course a historical figure who ''did'' accomplish a lot it is difficult to tell where to draw the line)
* CompleteMonster (Quintus Servilius Caepio: for starters he [[spoiler: steals a fortune in gold that legally belonged to Rome having several hundred Roman troops murdered by bandits to conceal the identity of the thief.]] Then he [[spoiler: causes the worst millitary disaster in Roman history because, coming from an [[AristocratsAreEvil immensely aristocratic background]], he considers himself above working with the low born consul appointed to fight a massive barbarian invasion. Caepio survives the battle by stealing a boat and abandoning his entire army to their deaths.]] His grandaughter Servilia is worse if anything.)
* EvilIsSexy (Servilia)
* FridgeBrilliance (If you get annoyed at the MarySue depiction of Gaius Julius Caesar, you might eventually realise that the story has been written in the form of propaganda written by [[WrittenBytheWinners Augustus]]. It was entirely in his advantage to present Caesar as a MarySue, and depict all of his enemies as bickering petty men.)
* GodModeSue (Caesar is smarter, tougher, stronger, braver and more morally decent than anyone else in the books by a ridiculous measure. In line with the DeliberateValuesDissonance, though, he really can't see anything but Roman traditional values.)
* {{Squick}} (Cleopatra reflecting on sex with Marc Antony, specifically in reference to the size of his manhood, and how "he would have hurt her, had she not given birth to Caesarion." Think about it.)
* TearJerker (Plenty - a lot of sympathetic characters die young or violently. Cato's crossing the Libyan desert (and seeing visions of his long dead brother and mother, both of whose fates are very sad in themselves) is very moving.)

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* CanonSue (Caesar CanonSue: Caesar can verge on this; of course course, with a historical figure who ''did'' accomplish a lot it is so much, it's difficult to tell where to draw the line)
line.
* CompleteMonster (Quintus CompleteMonster: Quintus Servilius Caepio: for starters he [[spoiler: steals [[spoiler:steals a fortune in gold that legally belonged to Rome having several hundred Roman troops murdered by bandits to conceal the identity of the thief.]] Then he [[spoiler: causes [[spoiler:causes the worst millitary military disaster in Roman history because, coming from an [[AristocratsAreEvil immensely aristocratic background]], he considers himself above working with the low born consul appointed to fight a massive barbarian invasion. Caepio survives the battle by stealing a boat and abandoning his entire army to their deaths.]] His grandaughter granddaughter Servilia is worse if anything.)
* EvilIsSexy (Servilia)
* FridgeBrilliance (If you get annoyed at the MarySue depiction of Gaius Julius Caesar, you might eventually realise that the story has been written in the form of propaganda written by [[WrittenBytheWinners Augustus]]. It was entirely in his advantage to present Caesar as a MarySue, and depict all of his enemies as bickering petty men.
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* GodModeSue (Caesar DesignatedMonkey: Marcus Brutus.
* EvilIsSexy: Servilia.
* FridgeBrilliance: If you get annoyed at the MarySue depiction of Gaius Julius Caesar, you might eventually realise that the story has been written in the form of propaganda written by [[WrittenBytheWinners Augustus]]. It was entirely in his advantage to present Caesar as a MarySue, and depict all of his enemies as bickering petty men.
* GodModeSue: Caesar
is smarter, tougher, stronger, braver and more morally decent than anyone else in the books by a ridiculous measure. In line with the DeliberateValuesDissonance, though, he really can't see anything but Roman traditional values.)
values.
* {{Squick}} (Cleopatra {{Squick}}: Cleopatra reflecting on sex with Marc Antony, specifically in reference to the size of his manhood, and how "he would have hurt her, had she not given birth to Caesarion." Think about it.)
it.
* TearJerker (Plenty - a TearJerker: Plenty: A lot of sympathetic characters die young or violently. Cato's crossing the Libyan desert (and seeing visions of his long dead brother and mother, both of whose fates are very sad in themselves) is very moving.)
4th Jun '12 7:38:29 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* FridgeBrilliance (If you get annoyed at the MarySue depiction of Gaius Julius Caesar, you might eventually realise that the story has been written in the form of propaganda written by [[WrittenBytheWinners Augustus]]. It was entirely in his advantage to present Caesar as a MarySue, and depict all of his enemies as bickering petty men.)
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