History YMMV / MassEffectTheEquestrianEquation

5th Dec '17 8:01:10 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* WhatAnIdiot:
** It cannot be overstated how atrociously ''bad'' an idea it was for Celestia to [[spoiler:give Discord full access to the Equestria programs]]. She was in [[VillainousBreakdown a desperately panicked frame of mind]], and she ''immediately'' realized her error)
** Applejack at the start of the second arc of ''Shades of Twilight''. [[spoiler:After being given reason to suspect that Dr. Hern is in danger, she doesn't share her concerns with anyone else. Instead, she ''abducts'' Dr. Hern from the hospital and tries to hide her away, only to get found out immediately by Forty-Two and Twilight.]]

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* WhatAnIdiot:
** It cannot be overstated how atrociously ''bad'' an idea it was for Celestia to [[spoiler:give Discord full access to the Equestria programs]]. She was in [[VillainousBreakdown a desperately panicked frame of mind]], and she ''immediately'' realized her error)
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WhatAnIdiot: Applejack at the start of the second arc of ''Shades of Twilight''. [[spoiler:After being given reason to suspect that Dr. Hern is in danger, you'd expect she doesn't share her concerns with would inform the authorities or anyone else. Instead, she ''abducts'' Dr. Hern from the hospital and tries to hide her away, only to get found out immediately by Forty-Two and Twilight.which predictably blow up in her face.]]



** Fluttershy is revealed to have been {{Mind Rape}}d into her [[ExtremeDoormat present personality]], and [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer all that came with it]], after she [[TheBully abused her]] [[DrunkWithPower power over the system]] as a filly. This would make her a JerkassWoobie (indeed, she gets compared with Jack, the clearest JW from ME canon), but she is ''utterly horrified'' at what she was and seems to think [[IAmAMonster she deserved it]]. [[spoiler:That she's one one of the few ponies to replace her cutie marks, rejecting ''both'' her old lives, says something.]]
** Pinkie Pie has known about the Equestrian simulation her entire life, but had every attempt to warn others or find out more [[CassandraTruth dismissed or thwarted]]. She adoped her [[FunPersonified present]] [[CloudCuckoolander personality]] so she could at least make other happy [[StepfordSmiler all while knowing there was an]] AwfulTruth threatening everypony yet she was still powerless to act against.

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** Fluttershy is revealed to have been {{Mind Rape}}d into her [[ExtremeDoormat present personality]], and [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer all that came with it]], after she [[TheBully abused her]] [[DrunkWithPower her power over the system]] as a filly. This would make her a JerkassWoobie (indeed, she gets compared with Jack, the clearest JW from ME canon), but she is ''utterly horrified'' at what she was and seems to think [[IAmAMonster she deserved it]]. [[spoiler:That she's one one of the few ponies to replace her cutie marks, rejecting ''both'' her old lives, says something.]]
** Pinkie Pie has known about the Equestrian simulation her entire life, but had every attempt to warn others or find out more [[CassandraTruth dismissed or thwarted]]. She adoped her [[FunPersonified present]] [[CloudCuckoolander present personality]] so she could at least make other happy [[StepfordSmiler all while knowing there was an]] AwfulTruth threatening everypony yet she was still powerless to act against.
23rd May '17 8:54:47 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* InformedWrongness: Applejack's questioning of Twilight [[spoiler:apointing her Head of the Equestrian Board of Directors and Acting Vice President]], despite her recent scandal, is shut down when Twilight insists that it proves she can be counted on to whatever it take for the good of the Herd. This overlooks that the scandal was done not out of [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight conviction]], but ignorance of the severity of the legal consequences, with Applejack second-guessing her actions upon realizing this. Compare Rarity, [[TheSocialExpert who's political play has caused nothing but good]], while Applejack's qualifications [[AllThereInTheManual are only mentioned in the Codex]], [[InformedAttribute but never shown in-story]]. Add it happening minutes after [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash was gravely injured]] and such a big decision is normally left up to readers, it supports Applejack's concern that Twilight was acting emotionally compromised, which 42 of 50 had previously warned her about.

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* InformedWrongness: Applejack's questioning of Twilight [[spoiler:apointing her Head of the Equestrian Board of Directors and Acting Vice President]], despite her recent scandal, is shut down when Twilight insists that it proves she can be counted on to whatever it take for the good of the Herd. This overlooks that the scandal was done not out of [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight conviction]], but ignorance of the severity of the legal consequences, with Applejack second-guessing her actions upon realizing this. Compare Rarity, [[TheSocialExpert who's political play has caused nothing but good]], while Applejack's qualifications [[AllThereInTheManual are only mentioned in the Codex]], [[InformedAttribute but never shown in-story]]. Add it happening minutes after [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash was gravely injured]] and such a big decision is normally left up to readers, it supports Applejack's concern that as Twilight was seems to be acting when emotionally compromised, which 42 of 50 had previously warned her about.
6th May '17 12:57:09 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* FridgeHorror: Celestia and Luna being [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]] is due to alterations to their {{Digital Avatar}}s, this would explain Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]'', which is also consistent with Celestia having important plans for her. That ''Equestrian Equation'' is ''still'' so potentially constant with FIM canon post Season 2 (Programs that observe humanity that Lyra was subliminally aware of. ''Equestria Girls''?), [[ForWantOfANail with Shepard's arrival being the difference]] that freed them from a world that was on the brink of failing... Guess what going to happen when FIM ends?

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* FridgeHorror: Celestia and Luna being [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]] is due to alterations to their {{Digital Avatar}}s, this would explain Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]'', which is also consistent with Celestia having important plans for her. That ''Equestrian Equation'' is ''still'' so potentially constant with FIM canon post Season 2 (Programs that observe humanity that Lyra was subliminally aware of. ''Equestria Girls''?), [[ForWantOfANail with Shepard's arrival being the difference]] that freed them from a world that was on the brink of failing... [[KillEmAll Guess what going to happen when FIM ends?ends?]]



* InformedWrongness: Applejack's questioning of Twilight [[spoiler:apointing her Head of the Equestrian Board of Directors and Acting Vice President]], despite her recent scandal, is shut down when Twilight insists that it proves she can be counted on to whatever it take for the good of the Herd. This overlooks that the scandal was done not out of [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight conviction]], but ignorance of the severity of the legal consequences, with Applejack second-guessing her actions upon realizing this. Compare Rarity, [[TheSocialExpert who's political play has caused nothing but good]], while Applejack's qualifications [[AllThereInTheManual are only mentioned in the Codex]], [[InformedAttribute but never shown in-story]]. Add making the decision minutes after [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash was gravely injured]] and such a big decision is normally left up to readers, it does little to dissuade Applejack's concern that Twilight was acting rashly after the stress of everything.

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* InformedWrongness: Applejack's questioning of Twilight [[spoiler:apointing her Head of the Equestrian Board of Directors and Acting Vice President]], despite her recent scandal, is shut down when Twilight insists that it proves she can be counted on to whatever it take for the good of the Herd. This overlooks that the scandal was done not out of [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight conviction]], but ignorance of the severity of the legal consequences, with Applejack second-guessing her actions upon realizing this. Compare Rarity, [[TheSocialExpert who's political play has caused nothing but good]], while Applejack's qualifications [[AllThereInTheManual are only mentioned in the Codex]], [[InformedAttribute but never shown in-story]]. Add making the decision it happening minutes after [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash was gravely injured]] and such a big decision is normally left up to readers, it does little to dissuade supports Applejack's concern that Twilight was acting rashly after the stress emotionally compromised, which 42 of everything.50 had previously warned her about.
1st Apr '17 2:34:52 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* FridgeHorror: Celestia and Luna being [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]] is due to alterations to their {{Digital Avatar}}s, this would explain Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]'', which is also consistent with Celestia having important plans for her. That ''Equestrian Equation'' is ''still'' so potentially constant with FIM canon post Season 2 (Programs that observe humanity that Lyra was subliminally aware of. ''Equestria Girls''?), [[ForWantOfANail with Shepard's arrival being the difference]] that freed them from a world that was on the brink of failing...

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* FridgeHorror: Celestia and Luna being [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]] is due to alterations to their {{Digital Avatar}}s, this would explain Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]'', which is also consistent with Celestia having important plans for her. That ''Equestrian Equation'' is ''still'' so potentially constant with FIM canon post Season 2 (Programs that observe humanity that Lyra was subliminally aware of. ''Equestria Girls''?), [[ForWantOfANail with Shepard's arrival being the difference]] that freed them from a world that was on the brink of failing... Guess what going to happen when FIM ends?


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* InformedWrongness: Applejack's questioning of Twilight [[spoiler:apointing her Head of the Equestrian Board of Directors and Acting Vice President]], despite her recent scandal, is shut down when Twilight insists that it proves she can be counted on to whatever it take for the good of the Herd. This overlooks that the scandal was done not out of [[ScrewTheRulesImDoingWhatsRight conviction]], but ignorance of the severity of the legal consequences, with Applejack second-guessing her actions upon realizing this. Compare Rarity, [[TheSocialExpert who's political play has caused nothing but good]], while Applejack's qualifications [[AllThereInTheManual are only mentioned in the Codex]], [[InformedAttribute but never shown in-story]]. Add making the decision minutes after [[spoiler:Rainbow Dash was gravely injured]] and such a big decision is normally left up to readers, it does little to dissuade Applejack's concern that Twilight was acting rashly after the stress of everything.
25th Sep '15 1:09:41 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* StoicWoobie: [[RobotBuddy 42 of 50]] is the SoleSurvivor of the Equis civilization, with the last memories of all that was lost, which would be tough enough. He's now a vital LivingEmotionalCrutch to Twilight, the one pony keeping what remains of them going, blames himself for every minor mistake, and know his being an AI would damn them if discovered. He ''cannot'' afford to show much emotions, and envies non-sapiant changeling drones for being genuinely emotionless.
25th Sep '15 12:36:11 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: As in canon, Sparatus. The Turian Councilor [[KickTheDog votes against granting endangered species status to The Herd]], possibly to avoid creating a precedent for this since the next species in line for this request might be [[BloodKnight "Krogan"]], who would be liable to abuse it.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: As in canon, Sparatus. The Turian Councilor [[KickTheDog votes against granting endangered species status to The Herd]], possibly Herd]] to show he's a {{Jerkass}}, but makes sense to avoid creating a precedent for this since the next species in line for this request might be [[BloodKnight "Krogan"]], who would be liable to abuse it.



** Pinkie Pie has known about the Equestrian simulation her entire life, but had every attempt to warn others or find out more [[CassandraTruth dismissed or thwarted]]. She adoped her [[FunPersonified present]] [[Cloud Cookoolander

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** Pinkie Pie has known about the Equestrian simulation her entire life, but had every attempt to warn others or find out more [[CassandraTruth dismissed or thwarted]]. She adoped her [[FunPersonified present]] [[Cloud Cookoolander[[CloudCuckoolander personality]] so she could at least make other happy [[StepfordSmiler all while knowing there was an]] AwfulTruth threatening everypony yet she was still powerless to act against.
25th Sep '15 12:16:02 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CrazyAwesome: '''Pinkie Pie.''' What else do you call a pony who tricks a squad of Royal Guard programs into behaving like a random encounter in a JRPG? And invent a [[BrainComputerInterface thought controlled omni-tool]], something ''every other species'' has failed to do, on a coffee binge?

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* CrazyAwesome: '''Pinkie Pie.''' What else do you call a pony who tricks a squad of Royal Guard programs into behaving like a random encounter in a JRPG? And invent a [[BrainComputerInterface thought controlled omni-tool]], something ''every other species'' has failed to do, on a coffee binge? Deconstructed in that her methods wasted lots of resources and put her wellbeing at risk, which Twilight warns her they can no longer afford.



* FridgeHorror: Celestia and Luna being [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]] is due to alterations to their {{Digital Avatar}}s, this would explain Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]'', which is also consistent with Celestia having important plans for her. That ''Equestrian Equation'' is ''still'' so potentially constant with FIM canon post Season 2 (programs that observe humanity that Lyra was subliminally aware of. ''Equestria Girls''?), [[ForWantOfANail with Shepard's arrival being the difference]] that freed them from a world that was on the brink of failing...

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* FridgeHorror: Celestia and Luna being [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]] is due to alterations to their {{Digital Avatar}}s, this would explain Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]'', which is also consistent with Celestia having important plans for her. That ''Equestrian Equation'' is ''still'' so potentially constant with FIM canon post Season 2 (programs (Programs that observe humanity that Lyra was subliminally aware of. ''Equestria Girls''?), [[ForWantOfANail with Shepard's arrival being the difference]] that freed them from a world that was on the brink of failing...



* StrawmanHasAPoint: As in canon, Sparatus. The Turian Councilor votes against granting endangered species status to The Herd, possibly to avoid creating a precedent for this since the next species in line for this request might be [[BloodKnight "Krogan"]], who would be liable to abuse it.

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: As in canon, Sparatus. The Turian Councilor [[KickTheDog votes against granting endangered species status to The Herd, Herd]], possibly to avoid creating a precedent for this since the next species in line for this request might be [[BloodKnight "Krogan"]], who would be liable to abuse it.



** Fluttershy is revealed to have been {{Mind Rape}}d into her [[ExtremeDoormat present personality]], and [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer all that came with it]], after she [[TheBully abused her]] [[DrunkWithPower power over the system]] as a filly. This would make her a JerkassWoobie (indeed, she gets compared with Jack, the clearest JW from ME canon), but she is ''utterly horrified'' at what she was and seems to think [[IAmAMonster she deserved it]]. [[spoiler:She's one one of the few ponies to replace her cutie marks, clearly not content with ''both'' the lives she lived.]]

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** Fluttershy is revealed to have been {{Mind Rape}}d into her [[ExtremeDoormat present personality]], and [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer all that came with it]], after she [[TheBully abused her]] [[DrunkWithPower power over the system]] as a filly. This would make her a JerkassWoobie (indeed, she gets compared with Jack, the clearest JW from ME canon), but she is ''utterly horrified'' at what she was and seems to think [[IAmAMonster she deserved it]]. [[spoiler:She's [[spoiler:That she's one one of the few ponies to replace her cutie marks, clearly not content with rejecting ''both'' her old lives, says something.]]
** Pinkie Pie has known about
the lives she lived.]]Equestrian simulation her entire life, but had every attempt to warn others or find out more [[CassandraTruth dismissed or thwarted]]. She adoped her [[FunPersonified present]] [[Cloud Cookoolander
24th Sep '15 11:47:46 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* CrazyAwesome: '''Pinkie Pie.''' What else do you call a pony who tricks a squad of Royal Guard programs into behaving like a random encounter in a JRPG?

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* CrazyAwesome: '''Pinkie Pie.''' What else do you call a pony who tricks a squad of Royal Guard programs into behaving like a random encounter in a JRPG?JRPG? And invent a [[BrainComputerInterface thought controlled omni-tool]], something ''every other species'' has failed to do, on a coffee binge?



* FridgeHorror: Celestia and Luna being [[WingedUnicorn Alicorns]] is due to alterations to their {{Digital Avatar}}s, this would explain Twilight Sparkle becoming an Alicorn in ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]]'', which is also consistent with Celestia having important plans for her. That ''Equestrian Equation'' is ''still'' so potentially constant with FIM canon post Season 2 (programs that observe humanity that Lyra was subliminally aware of. ''Equestria Girls''?), [[ForWantOfANail with Shepard's arrival being the difference]] that freed them from a world that was on the brink of failing...
** Pinkie Pie mentions she had her changeling detecting program turned off, why have something so useful off? Was it on during ''A Canterlot Wedding'', letting her see Cadance was an imposter, if not the imminent invasion? Was she ''forced'' to [[MadeOutToBeAJerkass act against Twilight]], [[CassandraTruth knowing she was right]], and/or had any attempts to be on her side [[LaserGuidedAmnesia erased from everyones memories]]? ''How many other time was she forced to hurt her friends knowing it was due to the simulations intervention [[AndIMustScream while hapless to act against it]]?'' That she gave up facing the AwfulTruth...



** Applejack at the start of the second arc of ''Shades of Twilight''. [[spoiler:After being given reason to suspect that Dr. Hern is in danger, she doesn't share her concerns with anyone else. Instead, she ''abducts'' Dr. Hern from the hospital and tries to hide her away, only to get found out immediately by Forty-Two and Twilight.]]

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** Applejack at the start of the second arc of ''Shades of Twilight''. [[spoiler:After being given reason to suspect that Dr. Hern is in danger, she doesn't share her concerns with anyone else. Instead, she ''abducts'' Dr. Hern from the hospital and tries to hide her away, only to get found out immediately by Forty-Two and Twilight.]]
*TheWoobie: The Equestrians are a WoobieSpecies, living the happy life from the show, then suddenly forced out of their world, finding that it, their material worth, and many of their friends and family were nothing more then simulations that are now lost forever. Their now trying to make it in a galaxy that would [[FantasticRacism discriminate against]] and seek to exploit them, with little more then each other and some basic galactic knowledge going for them. There's still some stand out individual examples.
** Fluttershy is revealed to have been {{Mind Rape}}d into her [[ExtremeDoormat present personality]], and [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer all that came with it]], after she [[TheBully abused her]] [[DrunkWithPower power over the system]] as a filly. This would make her a JerkassWoobie (indeed, she gets compared with Jack, the clearest JW from ME canon), but she is ''utterly horrified'' at what she was and seems to think [[IAmAMonster she deserved it]]. [[spoiler:She's one one of the few ponies to replace her cutie marks, clearly not content with ''both'' the lives she lived.
]]
6th Sep '15 6:53:42 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Milligan crosses it when he tries to convince Shepard to download the Equestrian servers, which would have killed all the ponies, despite ''knowing'' that they're sentient beings, condemning a species older that human sentience to extinction]].

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* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Milligan crosses it when he tries to convince Shepard to download the Equestrian servers, which would have killed all the ponies, despite ''knowing'' that they're sentient beings, condemning a species older that human sentience to extinction]].extinction. Played with in that how much of this is due to Discord's brainwashing him (thus discord's MEH) as opposed to his choice is ambiguous.]]



** It cannot be overstated how atrociously ''bad'' an idea it was for Celestia to [[spoiler:give Discord full access to the Equestria programs]]. She was in [[VillainousBreakdown a desperate frame of mind]], and she ''immediately'' realized her error)

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** It cannot be overstated how atrociously ''bad'' an idea it was for Celestia to [[spoiler:give Discord full access to the Equestria programs]]. She was in [[VillainousBreakdown a desperate desperately panicked frame of mind]], and she ''immediately'' realized her error)
6th Sep '15 6:43:03 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* JerkassHasAPoint: Sparatus, the Turian Councilor votes against granting endangered species status to The Herd, possibly to avoid creating a precedent for this since the next species in line for this request might be [[BloodKnight "Krogan"]].
* WhatAnIdiot: It cannot be overstated how atrociously ''bad'' an idea it was for Celestia to [[spoiler:give Discord full access to the Equestria programs (though to be fair, not only was it temporary, she ''immediately'' realized her error).]]

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Sparatus, the StrawmanHasAPoint: As in canon, Sparatus. The Turian Councilor votes against granting endangered species status to The Herd, possibly to avoid creating a precedent for this since the next species in line for this request might be [[BloodKnight "Krogan"]].
"Krogan"]], who would be liable to abuse it.
* WhatAnIdiot: WhatAnIdiot:
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It cannot be overstated how atrociously ''bad'' an idea it was for Celestia to [[spoiler:give Discord full access to the Equestria programs (though to be fair, not only programs]]. She was it temporary, in [[VillainousBreakdown a desperate frame of mind]], and she ''immediately'' realized her error).]]error)
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