** The amount of trauma Tali is put through (especially in the second game) is almost comical, yet she remains outwardly optimistic, polite, and helpful through it all. Ultimately subverted, as demonstrated when Shepard speaks to her on the ''Normandy'', saying that Tali deserved better. Tali will state that life isn't about what you deserve -- and that she thinks [[spoiler:her father would have found it fitting that she mourned him by [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge blowing up a lot of geth]]]]. In addition, if you read Tali's dossier on board the Shadow Broker's vessel, it reveals that Tali [[spoiler:tried to write to the families of the quarian soldiers that died on Haestrom, but put her email aside for the moment when she was unable to think of how she could justify their sacrifices]]. She also downloads a book on grief and loss, although whether its about the loss of her [[spoiler:father]], [[spoiler:squadmates on Haestrom]], or [[spoiler:Shepard during the original Normandy's destruction]], or some combination thereof, is up to the fandom's interpretation.

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** The amount of trauma Tali is put through is almost comical, yet she remains outwardly optimistic, polite, and helpful through it all. Ultimately subverted, as demonstrated when Shepard speaks to her on the ''Normandy'', saying that Tali deserved better. Tali will state that life isn't about what you deserve -- and that she thinks [[spoiler:her father would have found it fitting that she mourned him by [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge blowing up a lot of geth]]]]. In addition, if you read Tali's dossier on board the Shadow Broker's vessel, it reveals that Tali [[spoiler:tried to write to the families of the quarian soldiers that died on Haestrom, but put her email aside for the moment when she was unable to think of how she could justify their sacrifices]]. She also downloads a book on grief and loss, although whether its about the loss of her [[spoiler:father]], [[spoiler:squadmates on Haestrom]], or [[spoiler:Shepard during the original Normandy's destruction]], or some combination thereof, is up to the fandom's interpretation.

5th Jun '13 7:32:35 PM RedHoodsShadow

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Miranda's far from the only female with a "barbie doll" body, so I figured I'd mention that. Also edding the Wangst entry to give Miri more of a fair hand since after all, not everyone's gonna agree with a YMMV

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* UncannyValley: Her face looks a little...off at times. FridgeBrilliance comes in when it's meant to be perfect, thus looks a little off. Frequently she comes under criticism for SpecialEffectsFailure (not helped by the fact that her face often doesn't look too good in cold hard lighting) but her face looks a lot prettier in softer and warmer lighting.
* {{Wangst}}: The main reason she's reviled by certain fans is the accusation that she fits this. It's not that she doesn't have a reason to be upset, it's because as far as many are concerned she drones on and on about how much it hurts her to be perfect and how her father was emotionally distant, whereas every other character besides Jack has bigger or equal problems that they don't complain about. The fact that she says that she was always given what she wanted and grew up in wealth has not helped matters, though she also makes a point of mentioning that there was always a catch to getting what she wanted.
** Somewhat subverted if you play the "Lair of the Shadow Broker" DLC and read the file on her where it turns out that Miranda's pain goes deeper than she lets on. [[Spoiler: She wants to be a mother but cannot conceive, and even worse, it's implied that this is just one of many ways her father has tried to control her.]]

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5th Jun '13 7:09:17 PM RedHoodsShadow

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No, Miranda outright says it was without question a mistake. She just doesn't believe that it was REALLY Cerberus. But she doesn't believe that what was done to Jack was good and in fact believes that the "real" Cerberus shut the cell down. Which incidentally is proof that she's not evil. Also, "Self-flagellation", while a fairly accurate description, is redundant because flagellation means self-abuse. Finally, Prazza's distrust of Cerberus was never in question. His being a Leeroy Jenkins was why Tali dismissed him as an idiot. So he doesn't really fit Strawman Has A Point.

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** RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Fortunately, her actions in the third game did help sway former haters around by indirectly helping out the Alliance and [[TookALevelInKindness taking many levels in kindness]] as well as protecting her sister.
* JerkassWoobie: She's tortured over the manner in which she was "created", had to spend her early childhood having to live up to her father's crazy high expectations, (and its also heavily implied that he murdered Miranda's older "siblings" for not meeting said expectations) and worst of all, [[spoiler:is incapable of conceiving a child, something she desperately wants (as the Shadow Broker files on her clearly show).]]. Needless to say, when one takes all that into consideration, its easy to see why she can be [[IceQueen so cold and nasty sometimes.]]
** It also makes it unsurprising that either Paragon or Renegade dialogue choices acknowledging her self-flagellation over not having a single good aspect of hers to take credit for can start a romance with her. Paragon Shepard will compliment her service record, and more pointedly, her body; Renegade Shepard will try to push her buttons further until she claims Shepard himself as an example of her "damned good work".

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** [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap Rescued From The Polarizing Heap]]: Fortunately, her actions in the third game did help sway former haters around by indirectly helping out the Alliance and [[TookALevelInKindness taking many levels in kindness]] as well as protecting her sister.
* JerkassWoobie: She's tortured over the manner in which she was "created", had to spend her early childhood having to live up to [[AbusiveParents her father's]] crazy high expectations, (and its also heavily implied that he murdered Miranda's older "siblings" for not meeting said expectations) and worst of all, [[spoiler:is incapable of conceiving a child, something she desperately wants (as the Shadow Broker files on her clearly show).]]. Needless to say, when one takes all that into consideration, its easy to see why she can be [[IceQueen so cold and nasty sometimes.]]
** It also makes it unsurprising that either Paragon or Renegade dialogue choices acknowledging her flagellation over not having a single good aspect of hers to take credit for can start a romance with her. Paragon Shepard will compliment her service record, and more pointedly, her body; Renegade Shepard will try to push her buttons further until she claims Shepard himself as an example of her "damned good work".

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5th Jun '13 3:34:39 PM MrPink

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2nd Jun '13 1:22:04 PM Viira

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This isn't YMMV.