History YMMV / MassEffect1

10th May '16 7:40:51 AM cricri3007
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** While pretty much every squadmate in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara) and the one extremely popular line is Shepard calling a hanar a "big, stupid jellyfish", expect anytime Ashley is mentioned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in the third game proved some of her suspicions to be founded), she becomes friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, she's the one who suggests you go talk to Liara after Noveria, and her "I can't tell the difference between the aliens and the animals" line was supposed to only play near Keepers.

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** While pretty much every squadmate in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara) and the one an extremely popular line is Shepard calling a hanar a "big, stupid jellyfish", expect anytime Ashley is mentioned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in the third game proved some of her suspicions to be founded), founded and that she should have suspected Tali instead), she becomes friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, she's the one who suggests you go talk to Liara after Noveria, and her "I can't tell the difference between the aliens and the animals" line was supposed to only play near Keepers.
24th Apr '16 3:21:51 AM cricri3007
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** While pretty much every squadmate in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara) and the fact that one extremely popular line is Shepard sayign a hanar is a "big, stupid jellyfish", expect anytime Ashley is mentioned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in the third game proved some of her suspicions to be founded), she becomes friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, she's the one who suggests you go talk to Liara after Noveria, and her "I can't tell the difference between the aliens and the animals" line was supposed to only play near Keepers.

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** While pretty much every squadmate in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara) and the fact that one extremely popular line is Shepard sayign calling a hanar is a "big, stupid jellyfish", expect anytime Ashley is mentioned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in the third game proved some of her suspicions to be founded), she becomes friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, she's the one who suggests you go talk to Liara after Noveria, and her "I can't tell the difference between the aliens and the animals" line was supposed to only play near Keepers.
23rd Apr '16 11:17:04 AM cricri3007
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** While pretty much every squadmate in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara), expect anytime Ashley is mentioned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in the third game proved some of her suspicions to be founded), she becomes friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, she's the one who suggests you go talk to Liara after Noveria, and her "I can't tell the difference between the aliens and the animals" line was supposed to only play near Keepers.

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** While pretty much every squadmate in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara), Liara) and the fact that one extremely popular line is Shepard sayign a hanar is a "big, stupid jellyfish", expect anytime Ashley is mentioned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in the third game proved some of her suspicions to be founded), she becomes friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, she's the one who suggests you go talk to Liara after Noveria, and her "I can't tell the difference between the aliens and the animals" line was supposed to only play near Keepers.
17th Apr '16 4:12:58 PM MissMokushiroku
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* AngstWhatAngst: For someone who had to watch her mother die, probably even through matricide, or at least finding out that she is dead after being rescued, Liara seems to not be displaying any signs of angst at all. Never mind finding out that her mother was an unwilling puppet all along, not the traitor everyone thought she was. Heck, even the fact that she is now the daughter of a revealed traitor should be cause for angst. But no, Liara seems to take all of that in stride.
* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Husk-Saren is pretty easy for a final boss. Bring a biotic character, even just one, with a maxed-out Lift and just have them use it so you can chip his health away while he's helplessly floating in the air. And due to the fact that there's a cutscene after you get his health, by the time it's over Lift should be finished recharging, which means you can repeat the process again, thus winning the fight without even taking a single hit. Without biotics (which are overpowered in general), however, it is an appropriately epic final battle.]]

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* AngstWhatAngst: For someone who had to watch her mother die, probably possibly even through matricide, [[SelfMadeOrphan matricide]], or at least finding out that she is dead after being rescued, Liara seems doesn't seem to not be displaying display any signs of angst at all. Never mind finding out that her mother was an unwilling puppet all along, not the traitor everyone thought she was. Heck, even the fact that she is now the daughter of a revealed traitor should be cause for angst. But no, Liara seems to take all of that in stride.
* AntiClimaxBoss: [[spoiler: Husk-Saren [[spoiler:Husk-Saren is pretty easy for a final boss. Bring a biotic character, even just one, with a maxed-out Lift and just have them use it so you can chip his health away while he's helplessly floating in the air. And due to the fact that there's a cutscene after you get his health, by the time it's over Lift should be finished recharging, which means you can repeat the process again, thus winning the fight without even taking a single hit. Without biotics (which are overpowered in general), however, it is an appropriately epic final battle.]]



*** A maxed Lift alone bears mentioning because it works on ''everything''. Yes, that includes Geth Armatures and Colossi. There's something indescribably hilarious about watching a twelve-foot-tall, ten-ton robotic artillery platform drifting helplessly skyward as you riddle it with assault-rifle slugs.

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*** ** A maxed Lift alone bears mentioning because it works on ''everything''. Yes, that includes Geth Armatures and Colossi. There's something indescribably hilarious about watching a twelve-foot-tall, ten-ton robotic artillery platform drifting helplessly skyward as you riddle it with assault-rifle slugs.



** [[MagikarpPower The Sentinel class or]] [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman "Hey Kaidan's useful for more than unlocking crates after all!"]] When properly leveled up goes from looking like a wall-hugging joke at the start of the game to being able to [[CurbStompBattle curbstomp the Final Boss without taking ONE HIT using a spamming combo of]] [[MindOverMatter Lift]] to make him a pinata, [[PowerNullifier Overload to strip his shields and Sabotage to neuter his weapons,]] which is not even factoring in squadmates with more exotic powers like [[UpToEleven Damping]] in addition to [[JustShootHim just unloading on the poor bastard.]]

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** [[MagikarpPower The Sentinel class class, or]] [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman "Hey "Hey, Kaidan's useful for more than unlocking crates after all!"]] When properly leveled up goes from looking like a wall-hugging joke at the start of the game to being able to [[CurbStompBattle curbstomp the Final Boss final boss without taking ONE HIT a single hit using a spamming combo of]] [[MindOverMatter Lift]] to make him a pinata, [[PowerNullifier Overload to strip his shields shields, and Sabotage to neuter his weapons,]] which is not even factoring in squadmates with more exotic powers like [[UpToEleven Damping]] in addition to [[JustShootHim just unloading on the poor bastard.]]



* GoodBadBug: There are also a couple of occasions to completely max out your Paragon/Renegade scores in a couple of minutes; however, doing so corrupts your save files, and makes your actual decision in that scenario discounted in the sequel.
** On Therum you are supposed to fight through the last bastion of geth including a WakeUpCallBoss [[SpiderTank geth armature]] on foot as the AwesomePersonnelCarrier you are in isn't normally supposed to be able to make it through a bottleneck in the terrain to reach that area. However, if you aim the Mako at that bottleneck just right, the ScrappyMechanic that causes the Mako to flip vertically into the air, launches it past that bottleneck. You can then just blast your way past these enemies and reach the mine's entrance.

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* GoodBadBug: GoodBadBug:
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There are also a couple of occasions to completely max out your Paragon/Renegade scores in a couple of minutes; however, doing so corrupts your save files, and makes your actual decision in that scenario discounted in the sequel.
** On Therum Therum, you are supposed to fight through the last bastion of geth including a WakeUpCallBoss [[SpiderTank geth armature]] on foot as the AwesomePersonnelCarrier you are in isn't normally supposed to be able to make it through a bottleneck in the terrain to reach that area. However, if you aim the Mako at that bottleneck just right, the ScrappyMechanic that causes the Mako to flip vertically into the air, launches it past that bottleneck. You can then just blast your way past these enemies and reach the mine's entrance.



* GrowingTheBeard: This game put BioWare on the map when it came to original properties. Before that, they had made highly acclaimed games in the ''Forgotten Realms'' and ''Star Wars'' settings, but this game was their first truly acclaimed fully-original title. Shortly afterward, they created ''Dragon Age'' and both franchises became the core of the company's game library.
* HarsherInHindsight: Tali trying to defend herself when Shepard asks if the geth deserved to be killed in the Morning War makes her justification in very bad taste once you learn about what really happened in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''. [[spoiler:When you go inside the Geth Conscious you learn that the geth never acted out of hatred but out of self-preservation. You also find that many Quarian Geth-sympathizers were killed for refusing to kill the geth and their paranoia was eerily similar to Tali's.]]
-->Tali: "We made a mistake when we created the geth in the first place. But we didn't make a mistake when we went to war against them. If we had not acted, they would have wiped us out!"
-->Tali: "The geth are not innocent victims in all this. They're the enemy. They want to destroy us. Not just the quarians all organic life."

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* GrowingTheBeard: This game put BioWare Creator/BioWare on the map when it came to original properties. Before that, they had made highly acclaimed games in the ''Forgotten Realms'' ''[[Franchise/BaldursGate Forgotten Realms]]'' and ''Star Wars'' ''[[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic Star Wars]]'' settings, but this game was their first truly acclaimed fully-original title. Shortly afterward, they created ''Dragon Age'' ''Franchise/DragonAge'' and both franchises became the core of the company's game library.
* HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
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Tali trying to defend herself when Shepard asks if the geth deserved to be killed in the Morning War makes her justification in very bad taste once you learn about what really happened in ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''. [[spoiler:When you go inside the Geth Conscious geth consciousness, you learn that the geth never acted out of hatred but out of self-preservation. You also find that many Quarian Geth-sympathizers quarians who sympathized with the geth were killed for refusing to kill the geth them and their paranoia was eerily similar to Tali's.]]
-->Tali: --->Tali: "We made a mistake when we created the geth in the first place. But we didn't make a mistake when we went to war against them. If we had not acted, they would have wiped us out!"
-->Tali: --->Tali: "The geth are not innocent victims in all this. They're the enemy. They want to destroy us. Not just the quarians all organic life."



** The banter where Wrex asks Kaidan/Ashley who would win in a fight between them and Shepard.

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** The banter where Wrex asks Kaidan/Ashley who would win in a fight between them and Shepard. In ''Mass Effect 3'', [[spoiler:Shepard and the Virmire survivor end up having a stand-off during the attempted Citadel coup, and it is entirely possible for Shepard to be forced to kill them if they can't convince them to stand down.]]



*** [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 But]] [[MemeticMutation the priiize...]]



** The day after ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' was anounced to be receiving a [=PS3=] port, Microsoft released a statement symbollically beating their chests by reminding everyone that the first game, and all of the choices that carry to the sequel, was ''not'' doing the same & thus, the Xbox 360 was the only place to enjoy the full ''Mass Effect'' experience. Come November 2012, and the original game was released on [=PS3=], thankfully by itself on the PSN Store as well as part of the Trilogy collection.

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** The day after ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' was anounced to be receiving a [=PS3=] port, Microsoft released a statement symbollically symbolically beating their chests by reminding everyone that the first game, and all of the choices that carry to the sequel, was ''not'' doing the same & thus, the Xbox 360 was the only place to enjoy the full ''Mass Effect'' experience. Come November 2012, and the original game was released on [=PS3=], thankfully by itself on the PSN Store as well as part of the Trilogy collection.



* NeverLiveItDown: The most common reason brought up by people who dislike Kaidan Alenko is that he supposedly keeps whining about his headaches. In reality, it is only brought up '''once''' by him (and also just once by Dr Chakwas), and he doesn't even complain, he just ''mentions'' it.
** While pretty much every squadmates in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara), expect anytime Ashley is mentionned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in ME3 proved she had reasons to be), she become friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, is the one suggesting you to go talk to Liara after Noveria and her "I can't make the difference between aliens and animals" was supposed to only play near Keepers.

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* NeverLiveItDown: The NeverLiveItDown:
** One of the
most common reason reasons brought up by people who dislike Kaidan Alenko is that he supposedly keeps whining about his headaches. In reality, it is only brought up '''once''' by him (and also just once by Dr Dr. Chakwas), and he doesn't even complain, he just ''mentions'' it.
** While pretty much every squadmates squadmate in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara), expect anytime Ashley is mentionned mentioned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy's important areas (and a few things in ME3 the third game proved some of her suspicions to be founded), she had reasons to be), she become becomes friends with Tali and Liara quite fast, is she's the one suggesting who suggests you to go talk to Liara after Noveria Noveria, and her "I can't make tell the difference between the aliens and the animals" line was supposed to only play near Keepers.



* StrangledByTheRedString: It is very easy to unwittingly end up in a relationship with Ashley or Kaidan. You basically have to be a complete asshole, not talk to them at all, or [[spoiler:[[DieForOurShip blow them up on Virmire]]]] to avoid it.
** There's also a bug with Liara's romance where, by selecting a line meant to close it out ('I just want to be friends') actually locks it in.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: StrangledByTheRedString:
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It is very easy to unwittingly end up in a relationship with Ashley or Kaidan. You basically have to be a complete asshole, not talk to them at all, or [[spoiler:[[DieForOurShip blow them up on Virmire]]]] to avoid it.
** There's also a bug with Liara's romance where, by where selecting a line meant to close it out ('I just want to be friends') actually locks it in.



* ThatOneAchievement: The achievements that require playing through the majority of the game with each individual squad member. This includes the sidequests and such.
** Made easier if you have the Pinnacle Station and Bring Down the Sky DLC.

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* ThatOneAchievement: The achievements that require playing through the majority of the game with each individual squad member. This includes the sidequests and such. \n** Made However, this is made easier if you have the Pinnacle Station and Bring Down the Sky DLC.



*** Even amongst the planets of this game, Nodacrux stands out above the rest as the worst, where almost everything on the map is surrounded by mountains with no traction available ANYWHERE.

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*** ** Even amongst the planets of this game, Nodacrux stands out above the rest as the worst, where almost everything on the map is surrounded by mountains with no traction available ANYWHERE.''anywhere''.



** The game was bad with these. They can all be described the same way: Even players who have played multiple times lose track of them all, and it is kind of a pain running around and collect them. Included are:

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** The game was bad with these. They can all be described the same way: {{Collection Sidequest}}s. Even players who have played multiple times lose track of them all, and it is kind of a pain running around and collect collecting them. Included are:



** The Volcano Hunt mission in [[{{DLC}} Pinnacle Station]]. You get more time on the clock for each enemy you kill, but the amount of time you get back is progressively less for each one. You will want to put your keyboard/controller through the screen after coming up 2 kills short of the top score for the 10th time. For some reason, the Volcano map is the only one with this problem - with the others, a sufficiently skilled player can keep the mission going indefinitely and have no problem racking up enough kills.

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** The Volcano Hunt mission in [[{{DLC}} Pinnacle Station]]. You get more time on the clock for each enemy you kill, but the amount of time you get back is progressively less for each one. You will want to put your keyboard/controller through the screen after coming up 2 kills short of the top score for the 10th time. For some reason, the Volcano map is the only one with this problem - with problem--with the others, a sufficiently skilled player can keep the mission going indefinitely and have no problem racking up enough kills.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: Many feel that Nihlus was way underused and could've served as a cool mentor-figure/party member.
** Shiala is one of TheDreaded [[MagicKnight asari commandos]] who even the Turians consider the finest warriors in the galaxy, she [[TheAtoner wants to make amends]] for what she did while indoctrinated, and she has the Prothean cipher. Plus she has a few centuries worth of not just life experience but combat experience too. She could have made for an interesting and compelling squadmate.
* TooCoolToLive: Nihlus is a hardboiled Spectre built up as a badass as well a potential mentor, and he dies very quickly to establish what kind of guy Saren is.
** He gets a decent back-story in ''Mass Effect 2'', if you talk to Samara. Apparently Nihlus was so badass that he was able to stop her from killing him simply by using her own justicar code against her and allowing him to escape.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter:
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Many feel that Nihlus was way underused and could've served as a cool mentor-figure/party member.
** Shiala is one of TheDreaded [[MagicKnight asari commandos]] who even the Turians turians consider the finest warriors in the galaxy, she [[TheAtoner wants to make amends]] for what she did while indoctrinated, and she has the Prothean cipher. Plus she has a few centuries worth of not just life experience but combat experience too. She could have made for an interesting and compelling squadmate.
* TooCoolToLive: Nihlus is a hardboiled Spectre built up as a badass as well a potential mentor, and he dies very quickly to establish what kind of guy Saren is.
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is. He gets a decent back-story in ''Mass Effect 2'', if you talk to Samara. Apparently Nihlus was so badass that he was able to stop her from killing him simply by using her own justicar code against her and allowing him to escape.
17th Apr '16 2:32:06 PM Tahaneira
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** The Mako, due to its lousy controls, mediocre navigation, poor defense system, and below average aiming system. Doesn't help that in some missions you are forced to travel in one of those so ditching The Mako is out of the question.

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** The Mako, due to its lousy controls, mediocre navigation, poor defense system, and below average aiming system. Doesn't help that in some missions you are forced to travel in one of those so ditching The the Mako is out of the question. It doesn't help that while the Mako's shields increase as you level up, the rate of shield regeneration does not. At high levels, it can take upwards of five ''minutes'' for the Mako to fully recover from a firefight. Bring a book.
14th Mar '16 1:39:09 AM cricri3007
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** Likewise, expect anytime Ashley is mentionned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy important sectors(and a few things in ME3 proved she had reasons to be), she become friends with Tali and Liara quite fast and is the one suggesting you to go talk to Liara after Noveria and her "I can't make the difference between aliens and animals" was supposed to only play near Keepers.

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** Likewise, While pretty much every squadmates in the game is some degree of racist (except Kaidan and maybe Liara), expect anytime Ashley is mentionned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy Normandy's important sectors(and areas (and a few things in ME3 proved she had reasons to be), she become friends with Tali and Liara quite fast and fast, is the one suggesting you to go talk to Liara after Noveria and her "I can't make the difference between aliens and animals" was supposed to only play near Keepers.
9th Mar '16 5:31:30 PM MrUnderhill
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* StrangledByTheRedString: It is very easy to unwittingly end up in a relationship with Ashley or Kaidan. You basically have to be a complete asshole, not talk to them at at all, or [[spoiler:[[DieForOurShip blow them up on Virmire]]]] to avoid it.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: It is very easy to unwittingly end up in a relationship with Ashley or Kaidan. You basically have to be a complete asshole, not talk to them at at all, or [[spoiler:[[DieForOurShip blow them up on Virmire]]]] to avoid it.
9th Mar '16 5:30:46 PM MrUnderhill
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** Likewise, expect anytime Ashley is mentionned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy important sectors(and a few things in ME3 proved she had reasons to be), she become friends with Tali and Liara quite fast and is the one suggesting you to go talk to Liara after Noveria and her "i can't make the difference between aliens and animals" was supposed to only play near Keepers.

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** Likewise, expect anytime Ashley is mentionned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy important sectors(and a few things in ME3 proved she had reasons to be), she become friends with Tali and Liara quite fast and is the one suggesting you to go talk to Liara after Noveria and her "i "I can't make the difference between aliens and animals" was supposed to only play near Keepers.



* StrangledByTheRedString: It is very easy to unwittingly end up in a relationship with Ashley or Kaidan. You basically have to be a complete asshole or not talk to them at at all to avoid it.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: It is very easy to unwittingly end up in a relationship with Ashley or Kaidan. You basically have to be a complete asshole or asshole, not talk to them at at all all, or [[spoiler:[[DieForOurShip blow them up on Virmire]]]] to avoid it.
17th Dec '15 1:11:12 PM cricri3007
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** Likewise, expect anytime Ashley is mentionned to have that she's a "space racist" popping up. She's not racist as merely cautious about having strangers near the Normandy important sectors(and a few things in ME3 proved she had reasons to be), she become friends with Tali and Liara quite fast and is the one suggesting you to go talk to Liara after Noveria and her "i can't make the difference between aliens and animals" was supposed to only play near Keepers.
17th Dec '15 1:07:50 PM cricri3007
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** The banter where Wrex asks Kaidan/Ashley who would win in a fight between them and Shepard.


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** Any biotics attack but the most annoying is throw since it displays a ''long'' animation of Shepard fallaing to the ground, staying there for five or six seconds, before standing up. Meanwhile ennemies can, and ''will'' still shoot you.
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