History YMMV / MartianManhunter

6th Jun '16 11:57:05 AM Whitecroc
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* UncannyValley: J'onn's almost-but-not-quite human shape sometimes disconcerts people. (And this was the form he created to avoid scaring people!)
* TheWoobie: J'onn has easily has had the toughest life of any superhero in the justice league.
** IronWoobie: Having said that, he is still a determined hero who accepts earth as his new home.
** StoicWoobie

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* UncannyValley: J'onn's almost-but-not-quite human shape sometimes disconcerts people. (And this was the form he created to avoid scaring people!)
* TheWoobie: J'onn has easily has had the toughest life of any superhero in the justice league.
** IronWoobie: Having said that, he is still a determined hero who accepts earth as his new home.
** StoicWoobie
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6th Jun '16 11:55:44 AM Whitecroc
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* FridgeBrilliance: Vulnerability to fire. One has to wonder ''why'' later writers keep inventing contrived explanations for J'onn's vulnerability to fire. Mars is cold and has very little oxygen to burn things. Why ''wouldn't'' he be vulnerable to fire in a hot, high-oxygen atmosphere like Earth's? Chemically speaking, the poor dude would probably be flammable as all get-out.
** Because he's a FlyingBrick and in most continuities he even has EyeBeams which are at least somewhat laser-like. An otherwise normal human from Mars might be more vulnerable to fire than a normal human from Earth, but J'onn can go toe to toe with Superman. And he's more vulnerable to flame than he is to heat.
*** His EyeBeams are pure force, not heat.
** Additionally, DCU Mars had a much more Earth-like environment when it was inhabited.
** The weakness to fire is quite complicated, and has [[strike:little to do with]] varying relation to physical factors. J'onn's brother lost the weakness when he was stripped of his telepathy, for example.
** Really, though, most people are weak to fire. It's not that outrageous.
24th Jan '16 2:09:25 PM HelloLamppost
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* FridgeBrilliance: Vulnerability to fire. One has to wonder ''why'' later writers keep inventing contrived explanations for J'onn's vulnerability to fire. Mars is cold and has very little oxygen to burn things. Why ''wouldn't'' he be vulnerable to fire in a high-oxygen atmosphere like Earth's?

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* FridgeBrilliance: Vulnerability to fire. One has to wonder ''why'' later writers keep inventing contrived explanations for J'onn's vulnerability to fire. Mars is cold and has very little oxygen to burn things. Why ''wouldn't'' he be vulnerable to fire in a hot, high-oxygen atmosphere like Earth's?Earth's? Chemically speaking, the poor dude would probably be flammable as all get-out.
26th Dec '15 8:57:23 PM nombretomado
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** Commander Blanx, leader of the White Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onzz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** Commander Blanx, leader of the White Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in {{the UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onzz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.
9th Dec '15 9:25:23 PM missmoon
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** Commander Blanx, leader of the White Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** Commander Blanx, leader of the White Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz J'onzz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.
21st Nov '15 12:30:36 AM Cakeman
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** Commander Blanx, leader of the Pale Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** Commander Blanx, leader of the Pale White Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.
21st Nov '15 12:30:04 AM Cakeman
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** Commander Blanx, leader of the Pale Martians, appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** Commander Blanx, leader of the Pale Martians, Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.
21st Nov '15 12:27:39 AM Cakeman
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** Commander Blanx appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** Commander Blanx Blanx, leader of the Pale Martians, appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.
21st Nov '15 12:25:07 AM Cakeman
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21st Nov '15 12:24:26 AM Cakeman
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** Commander Blanx appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** Commander Blanx appeared only twice in {{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.
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