History YMMV / MartianManhunter

30th Mar '18 12:11:07 PM ACW
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** J'onn's own [[CainAndAbel twin brother]], Ma'alefa'ak J'onzz--or Malefic--had his natural psychic powers stripped by his own people by abusing his telepathic powers, using them to cruelly MindRape J'onzz's wife. [[DisproportionateRetribution Out of petty spite]], Malefic engineered a [[GenocideFromTheInside fatal psychic plague among his people]], causing whatever Martian that used their psychic powers to horribly burn and die as a result and singlehandedly destroying almost his entire race as a result. Pursuing his brother J'onn to Earth in a single-minded crusade to end his brother's life and complete his genocide, Malefic tried various times to destroy his brother and all those close to him, murdering the partner of his human identity, Karen Smith, and trying to mentally drive his own brother to suicide through a remnant of himself before his final death.

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** J'onn's own [[CainAndAbel twin brother]], Ma'alefa'ak J'onzz--or Malefic--had [[NamesToRunAwayFrom Malefic]]--had his natural psychic powers stripped by his own people by abusing his telepathic powers, using them to cruelly MindRape J'onzz's wife. [[DisproportionateRetribution Out of petty spite]], Malefic engineered a [[GenocideFromTheInside fatal psychic plague among his people]], causing whatever Martian that used their psychic powers to horribly burn and die as a result and singlehandedly destroying almost his entire race as a result. Pursuing his brother J'onn to Earth in a single-minded crusade to end his brother's life and complete his genocide, Malefic tried various times to destroy his brother and all those close to him, murdering the partner of his human identity, Karen Smith, and trying to mentally drive his own brother to suicide through a remnant of himself before his final death.
30th Mar '18 12:09:53 PM ACW
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** In Post-Crisis continuity, J'onn's first foe--his own [[EvilTwin brother]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefic]] (real name Ma'alefa'ak J'onzz)--was also one of the worst. Malefic engineered a psychic plague that incinerated the rest of the Green Martian race out of nothing but spite and envy at being the only Green Martian without telepathy; the reason he's not a telepath is because he committed MindRape, an unthinkable crime in Green Martian society, and was punished by having his psychic powers and memory stripped away. So Malefic committed genocide on his own race over a punishment that he wholly deserved. As if this wasn't enough, Malefic was so bent on ruining J'onn's life after the latter defeated him that he followed him to Earth and murdered Karen Smith, J'onn's (as Detective John Jones) partner on the police force. This was the last straw for J'onn and he threw Malefic into the sun. The saddest part about all of this is that J'onn was the only person who was ever sympathetic to Malefic because they were brothers.

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** In Post-Crisis continuity, J'onn's first foe--his own [[EvilTwin [[CainAndAbel twin brother]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefic]] (real name Ma'alefa'ak J'onzz)--was also one J'onzz--or Malefic--had his natural psychic powers stripped by his own people by abusing his telepathic powers, using them to cruelly MindRape J'onzz's wife. [[DisproportionateRetribution Out of the worst. petty spite]], Malefic engineered a [[GenocideFromTheInside fatal psychic plague that incinerated the rest of the Green among his people]], causing whatever Martian race out of nothing but spite and envy at being the only Green Martian without telepathy; the reason he's not a telepath is because he committed MindRape, an unthinkable crime in Green Martian society, and was punished by having his that used their psychic powers to horribly burn and memory stripped away. So Malefic committed genocide on die as a result and singlehandedly destroying almost his own entire race over as a punishment that he wholly deserved. As if this wasn't enough, Malefic was so bent on ruining J'onn's life after the latter defeated him that he followed him result. Pursuing his brother J'onn to Earth in a single-minded crusade to end his brother's life and murdered complete his genocide, Malefic tried various times to destroy his brother and all those close to him, murdering the partner of his human identity, Karen Smith, J'onn's (as Detective John Jones) partner on the police force. This was the last straw for J'onn and he threw Malefic into the sun. The saddest part about all trying to mentally drive his own brother to suicide through a remnant of this is that J'onn was the only person who was ever sympathetic to Malefic because they were brothers.himself before his final death.
2nd Mar '18 6:59:08 AM ACW
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** In Post-Crisis continuity, J'onn's first foe--his own [[EvilTwin brother]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefic]]--was also one of the worst. Malefic engineered a psychic plague that incinerated the rest of the Green Martian race out of nothing but spite and envy at being the only Green Martian without telepathy; the reason he's not a telepath is because he committed MindRape, an unthinkable crime in Green Martian society, and was punished by having his psychic powers and memory stripped away. So Malefic committed genocide on his own race over a punishment that he wholly deserved. As if this wasn't enough, Malefic was so bent on ruining J'onn's life after the latter defeated him that he followed him to Earth and murdered Karen Smith, J'onn's (as Detective John Jones) partner on the police force. This was the last straw for J'onn and he threw Malefic into the sun. The saddest part about all of this is that J'onn was the only person who was ever sympathetic to Malefic because they were brothers.

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** In Post-Crisis continuity, J'onn's first foe--his own [[EvilTwin brother]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefic]]--was Malefic]] (real name Ma'alefa'ak J'onzz)--was also one of the worst. Malefic engineered a psychic plague that incinerated the rest of the Green Martian race out of nothing but spite and envy at being the only Green Martian without telepathy; the reason he's not a telepath is because he committed MindRape, an unthinkable crime in Green Martian society, and was punished by having his psychic powers and memory stripped away. So Malefic committed genocide on his own race over a punishment that he wholly deserved. As if this wasn't enough, Malefic was so bent on ruining J'onn's life after the latter defeated him that he followed him to Earth and murdered Karen Smith, J'onn's (as Detective John Jones) partner on the police force. This was the last straw for J'onn and he threw Malefic into the sun. The saddest part about all of this is that J'onn was the only person who was ever sympathetic to Malefic because they were brothers.
2nd Mar '18 6:58:00 AM ACW
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** The bloodthirsty [[EvilCounterpart Commander Blanx]] restarts a war between two races of martians and exiles [[TheHero J'onn J'onnz]], whom he later tracks to Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's [[EvilOverlord dictator]], Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to [[KillItWithFire set all of Mars ablaze]], leaving the civilization in ruins and leading to J'onn returning to find his people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx reveals [[{{Greed}} a mining corporation offered to purchase the planet]] from Blanx, but he had to be "the last living Martian".

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** The bloodthirsty [[EvilCounterpart Commander Blanx]] restarts a war between two races of martians and exiles [[TheHero J'onn J'onnz]], whom he later tracks to Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's [[EvilOverlord dictator]], Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to [[KillItWithFire set all of Mars ablaze]], leaving the civilization in ruins and leading to J'onn returning to find his people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx reveals [[{{Greed}} a mining corporation offered to purchase the planet]] from Blanx, but he had to be "the last living Martian".Benn Blanx. See YMMV/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica.
1st Mar '18 12:45:00 PM ACW
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** [[EvilCounterpart Commander Blanx]] appeared only twice in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, cold-blooded [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really crossed the line, however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer greed]] and apathy. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** **The bloodthirsty [[EvilCounterpart Commander Blanx]] appeared only twice in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, cold-blooded [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the restarts a war between the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) two races of martians and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, exiles [[TheHero J'onn J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; J'onnz]], whom he later journeyed tracks to earth Earth to kill, murdering countless humans in the process. Becoming the planet's [[EvilOverlord dictator]], Blanx uses the powerful Blue Flame to [[KillItWithFire set all of Mars ablaze]], leaving the civilization in ruins and tried leading to kill J'onn during returning to find his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really crossed the line, however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, people on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted demands an explanation for Blanx's cruelty, Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld reveals [[{{Greed}} a mining corporation that wanted offered to buy Mars, purchase the planet]] from Blanx, but that "according he had to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the be "the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer greed]] and apathy. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.Martian".
14th Jan '18 10:50:57 AM ACW
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** In Post-Crisis continuity, J'onn's first foe--his own [[EvilTwin brother]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefic]]--was also one of the worst. Malefic engineered a psychic plague that incinerated the rest of the Green Martian race out of nothing but spite and envy at being the only Green Martian without telepathy; the reason he's not a telepath is because he committed MindRape, an unthinkable crime in Green Martian society, and was punished by having his psychic powers and memory stripped away. In other words, Malefic committed genocide on his own race over a punishment that he wholly deserved. As if this wasn't enough, Malefic was so bent on ruining J'onn's life after the latter defeated him that he followed him to Earth and murdered Karen Smith, J'onn's (as Detective John Jones) partner on the police force. This was the last straw for J'onn and he threw Malefic into the sun. The saddest part about all of this is that J'onn was the only person who was ever sympathetic to Malefic because they were brothers.

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** In Post-Crisis continuity, J'onn's first foe--his own [[EvilTwin brother]], [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Malefic]]--was also one of the worst. Malefic engineered a psychic plague that incinerated the rest of the Green Martian race out of nothing but spite and envy at being the only Green Martian without telepathy; the reason he's not a telepath is because he committed MindRape, an unthinkable crime in Green Martian society, and was punished by having his psychic powers and memory stripped away. In other words, So Malefic committed genocide on his own race over a punishment that he wholly deserved. As if this wasn't enough, Malefic was so bent on ruining J'onn's life after the latter defeated him that he followed him to Earth and murdered Karen Smith, J'onn's (as Detective John Jones) partner on the police force. This was the last straw for J'onn and he threw Malefic into the sun. The saddest part about all of this is that J'onn was the only person who was ever sympathetic to Malefic because they were brothers.
11th Jan '18 2:19:31 AM ACW
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** Commander Blanx, leader of the White Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), appeared only twice in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onzz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.

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** [[EvilCounterpart Commander Blanx, leader of the White Martians (AKA the Pole Dwellers), Blanx]] appeared only twice in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|OfComicBooks}} Age|of Comic Books}}, but he made up for limited appearances with not rage, or hate, but pure, [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] cold-blooded [[TheSociopath sociopathy]]. For reasons known only to himself, Blanx restarted the war between his people the Pole Dwellers (Pale/White Martians) and the Desert Dwellers (Green Martians). Meeting his adversary, J'onn J'onzz J'onnz in single combat, Blanx won through cheating and exiled him; he later journeyed to earth and tried to kill J'onn during his exile there, resulting in numerous human deaths. Where Blanx really [[MoralEventHorizon crossed the line]], line, however, was in his rule of Mars. Already dictator of the entire planet, Blanx used alien technology to take control of the Blue Flame that provided Mars' only source of heat, and set the entire planet ablaze. When J'onn J'onnz returned home, he found his family and friends dead, his civilisation in ruins, his planet unlivable, and all Martians, Pole Dwellers and Desert Dwellers alike, on the verge of extinction. When J'onn confronted Blanx and demanded to know why, Blanx explained that he had been contacted by an offworld mining corporation that wanted to buy Mars, but that "according to the aliens' code, I could only sell if I were the last living Martian." Blanx did them one better, killing not only every Martian, but Mars itself, desolating the entire planet out of [[OnlyInItForTheMoney sheer]] {{greed}} sheer greed]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe apathy]]. apathy. In one issue, Blanx [[KnightOfCerebus altered the tone]] of the Martian Manhunter stories from light-hearted sixties fare, to introspective angst, wiping out his own people in the name of his checkbook, and leaving J'onn totally alone. In terms of utter soullessness, no Martian Manhunter villain has ever surpassed him.
6th Jun '16 11:57:05 AM Whitecroc
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* UncannyValley: J'onn's almost-but-not-quite human shape sometimes disconcerts people. (And this was the form he created to avoid scaring people!)
* TheWoobie: J'onn has easily has had the toughest life of any superhero in the justice league.
** IronWoobie: Having said that, he is still a determined hero who accepts earth as his new home.
** StoicWoobie

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* UncannyValley: J'onn's almost-but-not-quite human shape sometimes disconcerts people. (And this was the form he created to avoid scaring people!)
* TheWoobie: J'onn has easily has had the toughest life of any superhero in the justice league.
** IronWoobie: Having said that, he is still a determined hero who accepts earth as his new home.
** StoicWoobie
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6th Jun '16 11:55:44 AM Whitecroc
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* FridgeBrilliance: Vulnerability to fire. One has to wonder ''why'' later writers keep inventing contrived explanations for J'onn's vulnerability to fire. Mars is cold and has very little oxygen to burn things. Why ''wouldn't'' he be vulnerable to fire in a hot, high-oxygen atmosphere like Earth's? Chemically speaking, the poor dude would probably be flammable as all get-out.
** Because he's a FlyingBrick and in most continuities he even has EyeBeams which are at least somewhat laser-like. An otherwise normal human from Mars might be more vulnerable to fire than a normal human from Earth, but J'onn can go toe to toe with Superman. And he's more vulnerable to flame than he is to heat.
*** His EyeBeams are pure force, not heat.
** Additionally, DCU Mars had a much more Earth-like environment when it was inhabited.
** The weakness to fire is quite complicated, and has [[strike:little to do with]] varying relation to physical factors. J'onn's brother lost the weakness when he was stripped of his telepathy, for example.
** Really, though, most people are weak to fire. It's not that outrageous.
24th Jan '16 2:09:25 PM HelloLamppost
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* FridgeBrilliance: Vulnerability to fire. One has to wonder ''why'' later writers keep inventing contrived explanations for J'onn's vulnerability to fire. Mars is cold and has very little oxygen to burn things. Why ''wouldn't'' he be vulnerable to fire in a high-oxygen atmosphere like Earth's?

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* FridgeBrilliance: Vulnerability to fire. One has to wonder ''why'' later writers keep inventing contrived explanations for J'onn's vulnerability to fire. Mars is cold and has very little oxygen to burn things. Why ''wouldn't'' he be vulnerable to fire in a hot, high-oxygen atmosphere like Earth's?Earth's? Chemically speaking, the poor dude would probably be flammable as all get-out.
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