History YMMV / MarioKart

17th Dec '15 7:39:04 AM rjd1922
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Neither are really princesses.
** ''7'' features an [[SlippySlideyIceWorld icy course]] apparently created by a blonde princess in a blue dress. [[{{Disney/Frozen}} Two years later...]]
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** ''7'' features an [[SlippySlideyIceWorld icy course]] apparently created by a blonde princess "princess" in a blue dress. [[{{Disney/Frozen}} Two years later...]]
15th Dec '15 4:33:23 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* FandomRivalry: With that of ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed]]'', due to their vastly different approaches to steering and the effect of items in a race. Mario Kart has a slower pace, toon physics, and items that impact outcomes in significant ways, whereas ''Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed'' emphasizes fast-paced arcade-style racing with deliberately weak items and strong defenses against long-range items. In other words, Mario Kart games are about rapid shuffling of positions where no one is safe, whereas '"Transformed'' is built around long, sustained leads and defensive driving. As a result, fandom wars have broken out about which gameplay style is more fun and more fair. While this rivalry isn't quite as widespread or well-known as most other video game rivalries, it is among the most bitter, as Mario Kart is the poster child of [[LuckBasedMission luck-based video gaming]], deserved or not.
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* FandomRivalry: FandomRivalry: ** With that of ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed]]'', due to their vastly different approaches to steering and the effect of items in a race. Mario Kart has a slower pace, toon physics, and items that impact outcomes in significant ways, whereas ''Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed'' emphasizes fast-paced arcade-style racing with deliberately weak items and strong defenses against long-range items. In other words, Mario Kart games are about rapid shuffling of positions where no one is safe, whereas '"Transformed'' is built around long, sustained leads and defensive driving. As a result, fandom wars have broken out about which gameplay style is more fun and more fair. While this rivalry isn't quite as widespread or well-known as most other video game rivalries, it is among the most bitter, as Mario Kart is the poster child of [[LuckBasedMission luck-based video gaming]], deserved or not.not. ** Over time, one has built up with the ''VideoGame/FZero'' fanbase, mostly because ever since ''F-Zero GX'', Nintendo seems to have started focusing more on ''Mario Kart''. ''Mario Kart 8'' introduces several ''F-Zero'' tracks as well as [=200cc=] mode, which has led some to believe that Nintendo will never make another ''F-Zero'' game again.
11th Dec '15 1:05:16 PM MarkLungo
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** A common response to people saying FirstPost is to send a Spiny Shell at them.
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** A common response to people saying FirstPost UsefulNotes/FirstPost is to send a Spiny Shell at them.

** Many people initially mistook Toad for a female in ''Mario Kart 64'' because of his localized voice (it was more masculine in the Japanese version), which is the reason for the more raspy voice Toad continues to have to this day. Ironically, Toad has been voiced predominantly by female voice actors since then, while the ''64'' voice actor was ''male''.
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** Many people initially mistook Toad for a female in ''Mario Kart 64'' because of his localized voice (it was more masculine in the Japanese version), which is the reason for the more raspy voice Toad continues to have to this day. Ironically, Toad has been voiced predominantly by female voice actors since then, while the ''64'' voice actor was ''male''.''male''. ----
25th Sep '15 3:28:08 AM machop
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** Honey Queen. BZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
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** Honey Queen. BZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!BZZ-BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
26th Aug '15 1:26:36 PM ZombieAladdin
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* FandomRivalry: With that of ''[[VideoGame/SegaSuperstars Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed]]'', due to their vastly different approaches to steering and the effect of items in a race. Mario Kart has a slower pace, toon physics, and items that impact outcomes in significant ways, whereas ''Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed'' emphasizes fast-paced arcade-style racing with deliberately weak items and strong defenses against long-range items. In other words, Mario Kart games are about rapid shuffling of positions where no one is safe, whereas '"Transformed'' is built around long, sustained leads and defensive driving. As a result, fandom wars have broken out about which gameplay style is more fun and more fair. While this rivalry isn't quite as widespread or well-known as most other video game rivalries, it is among the most bitter, as Mario Kart is the poster child of [[LuckBasedMission luck-based video gaming]], deserved or not.
2nd Aug '15 9:15:06 AM TokoWH
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** Is "Nintendo Kart" the next logical step for the ''Mario Kart'' series, especially after the introduction of cross-over DLC characters in ''8''? Better hope you have a riot shelter to dunk into when this debate is brought up.
31st Jul '15 9:48:55 AM NoUsername
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i haven't seen all that much hate for waluigi actually, it seems his Ensemble Darkhorse status is more widespread
** Gamespot (of "Mario Kart 64 is a 6.4" fame) was bashed into the ground for handing out Mario Kart 7 an 8.0 when the general consensus is higher than an 8.5. ** And then Jim Sterling gave 7.5 out of 10 due to ItsTheSameNowItSucks. The fans weren't happy, [[http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/225/698/11746288.jpg especially due to higher scores given to more formulaic games.]]
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** Gamespot (of "Mario Kart 64 is a 6.4" fame) infamy) was bashed into the ground for handing out Mario ''Mario Kart 7 7'' an 8.0 when the general consensus is higher than an 8.5. ** And then Jim Sterling gave 7.''Mario Kart 7'' a 5 out of 10 10, due to ItsTheSameNowItSucks. The fans weren't happy, [[http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/225/698/11746288.jpg especially due to higher scores given to more formulaic games.]]

* AmericansHateTingle[=/=]GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: ** Many overseas players think Metal Mario is a lazy Mario clone, while Japanese players ''worship'' him. ** Waluigi is a BaseBreaker overseas, but a complete EnsembleDarkhorse in Japan. * AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Mario Kart Wii'' got released in Europe first. This is most likely in order to make up for Nintendo's earlier announcement they would release ''[[SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' in June 27, 2008, that is, three and a half months after North America's March 9, 2008.
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* AmericansHateTingle[=/=]GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: ** Many overseas players think Metal Mario is a lazy Mario clone, while Japanese players ''worship'' him. ** Waluigi is a BaseBreaker overseas, but a complete EnsembleDarkhorse in Japan. * AuthorsSavingThrow: ''Mario Kart Wii'' got released in Europe first. This is most likely in order to make up for Nintendo's earlier announcement they would release ''[[SuperSmashBros ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' in June 27, 2008, that is, three and a half months after North America's March 9, 2008.

** Waluigi. His exclusion from ''Mario Kart 7'' has really divided the fans over whether or not that was a good idea. But he returns in ''Mario Kart 8'', to the joy of many fans.

** Waluigi. His exclusion from ''Mario Kart 7'' has really divided the The DLC characters in ''8''. While there are fans over whether who love the crossover aspect and don't mind Cat Peach and Tanooki Mario, others see them as a waste of money, or not feel that was a good idea. But he returns in ''Mario Kart 8'', to the joy of many fans.''Zelda'' and ''Animal Crossing'' don't gel well with ''Mario'' universe.

** ''Mario Kart DS'' has Waluigi Pinball, which is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: a giant pinball machine where players are launched to the top, then race back down while avoiding bumpers and giant pinballs. It even replaces the usual item jingle with a more casino-y one.
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** ''Mario Kart DS'' has Waluigi Pinball, which is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: a giant pinball machine where players are launched to the top, then race back down while avoiding bumpers and giant pinballs. It even replaces the usual item jingle sound effects with a more casino-y one.8-bit, casino-style jingles. Airship Fortress is also popular due to its clever and challenging design and being based on the already-popular airship levels from ''Super Mario Bros. 3''.

* CharacterTiers: In every single game, but most notably in the 3-D games. Mario Kart Wii had each character give invisible bonuses, with the more favorable quickly reaching TierInducedScrappy levels. ''7'' seems to have averted this with the customization system and lack of significant character bonuses.
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* CharacterTiers: In every single game, but most notably in the 3-D games. Mario game. Notable examples are: ** ''Mario Kart Wii 64'' has Toad and Yoshi, who drive circles around any of the other racers. ** ''Mario Kart Wii'' had each character give invisible bonuses, with the more favorable quickly reaching TierInducedScrappy levels. ''7'' seems Expect to have see Funky Kong and Daisy a lot. ** ''8'''s tier system is based on weight classes; Bowser, Morton, Wario, and heavy Miis are ubiquitous in Time Trials. It's averted in casual play and especially 200cc, though. ** ''7'' is the only game that averts this with the customization system altogether. There's no real "tier" system, and lack of significant every character bonuses.can be used just about equally, though Metal Mario is very common.

** Similar to Koopa Troopa, Dry Bones is one of the most popular racers from Mario Kart DS and Mario Kart Wii.
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** Similar to Koopa Troopa, Dry Bones is one of the most popular racers from Mario ''Mario Kart DS DS'' and Mario ''Mario Kart Wii.Wii''.

** Funky Kong enjoyed some popularity in ''Wii'', as did Dry Bowser.
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** Funky Kong enjoyed some popularity in ''Wii'', as did Dry Bowser. Fans were happy to see the latter's return as DLC in ''8''. ** Wiggler from ''7'' was also surprisingly popular, to the point that some fans lamented its exclusion in ''8''.

** Maple Treeway in Mario Kart ''Wii'' and ''7'' have piles of leafs that often contain items. One of the items you can get is the Starman. And you can pick this up in any place you're in.
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** Maple Treeway in Mario Kart ''Wii'' and ''7'' have piles of leafs leaves that often contain items. One of the items you can get is the Starman.a Super Star. And you can pick this up in any place you're in.

** Maple Treeway in * GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Metal Mario Kart ''Wii'' and ''7'' have piles of leafs that often contain items. One of the items you can get is the Starman. And you can pick this up in any place you're in.a BaseBreaker overseas, as he is seen as a "lazy Mario clone", but Japanese players absolutely ''worship'' him.

* HellIsThatNoise: You will ''panic'' every time you hear the alert of a homing item. '''Especially''' the Spiny Shell.
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* HellIsThatNoise: HellIsThatNoise: ** You will ''panic'' every time you hear the alert of a homing item. '''Especially''' the Spiny Shell.

** According to ''WiiSportsResort'', only electric cars are permitted on Wuhu Island. That's apparently not the case anymore, according to ''7''. [[ExactWords Apparently the restriction doesn't apply to karts, just "cars"?]] ** 64's manual mentions Wario built Wario Stadium as a motocross track instead of a traditional speedway. 11 years later bikes were introduced. Bonus points for bikes being more popular.
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** According to ''WiiSportsResort'', ''VideoGame/WiiSports Resort'', only electric cars are permitted on Wuhu Island. That's apparently not the case anymore, according to ''7''. [[ExactWords Apparently the restriction doesn't apply to karts, just "cars"?]] ** 64's ''64'''s manual mentions Wario built Wario Stadium as a motocross track instead of a traditional speedway. 11 years later bikes were introduced. Bonus points for bikes being more popular.

** ''Super Circuit'' got some of this reaction from people.
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** ''Super Circuit'' got some of this reaction from people. It's a handheld ''Super Mario Kart'' with the graphics and sound effects from ''64''.

* MorePopularSpinoff: Since the release of ''VideoGame/MarioKartDoubleDash'' on the NintendoGamecube, the Mario Kart games have actually consistently outsold their platformer counterparts.
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* MorePopularSpinoff: Since the release of ''VideoGame/MarioKartDoubleDash'' on the NintendoGamecube, UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube, the Mario Kart games have actually consistently outsold their platformer counterparts.

* NightmareFuel: Metal Mario in ''7'' for having blank sclera for eyes.
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* NightmareFuel: Metal Mario in ''7'' for having and Pink Gold Peach have blank sclera for eyes.eyes, unnervingly enough.

** Metal Mario is even considered a Scrappy to some people, because he is only a Metal version of Mario with slightly heavier stats. Some people [[MostAnnoyingSound even hate his voice]]. That being said, Japanese players love him. Pink Gold Peach gets it much worse, for not having the same EnsembleDarkhorse history as Metal Mario and having no basis in any previous games, leading to some accusations of artificially inflating the roster by making characters up. ** Any baby character except Baby Mario and maybe Baby Luigi, due to them appearing in Yoshi's Island, has gotten shades of this, due to all of them being similar to one another. Baby Daisy and Baby Rosalina get it most for, much like Pink Gold Peach above, having no basis in any previous ''Mario'' games and apparently just being made up to make the roster bigger.
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** Metal Mario is even considered a Scrappy to some people, because he is only a Metal version of Mario with slightly heavier stats. Some people [[MostAnnoyingSound even hate his voice]]. That being said, Japanese players love him. Pink Gold Peach gets it much worse, for not having the same EnsembleDarkhorse history as Metal Mario and having no basis in any previous games, leading to some accusations of artificially inflating the roster by making characters up. up. This was only further fueled by the addition of Tanooki Mario and Cat Peach as DLC in ''8'', leading to ''four'' sets of Mario and Peach variations. ** Any baby character except Baby Mario and maybe Baby Luigi, due to them appearing in Yoshi's Island, ''Yoshi's Island'', has gotten shades of this, due to all of them being similar to one another. Baby Daisy and Baby Rosalina get it most for, much like Pink Gold Peach above, having no basis in any previous ''Mario'' games and apparently just being made up to make the roster bigger.

** The Lightning Bolt as well, which it really shouldn't be considering it affects everyone else with it, with characters closer to the lead being affected for longer periods. The problem comes from it being rigged to happen too often and making you often lose your defensive item just as a red shell is coming. And of course [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the AI will coordinate its racers so that they'll use a Spiny Shell just before they use the Lightning]][[note]](If it used the lightning first, like two human players might do, it would destroy the Spiny Shell)[[/note]], [[HumiliationConga setting first place up for a distressingly common one-two punch.]] To make matters worse if, in Mario Kart 7, the lightning bolt strikes you while your hang glider is deployed, sending you into the water or bottomless pit below.
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** The Lightning Bolt as well, which it really shouldn't be considering it affects everyone else with it, with characters closer to the lead being affected for longer periods. The problem comes from it being rigged to happen too often and making you often lose your defensive item just as a red shell is coming. And of course [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the AI will coordinate its racers so that they'll use a Spiny Shell just before they use the Lightning]][[note]](If it used the lightning first, like two human players might do, it would destroy the Spiny Shell)[[/note]], [[HumiliationConga setting first place up for a distressingly common one-two punch.]] To make matters worse if, in Mario Kart 7, worse, if the lightning bolt strikes you while your hang glider is deployed, sending it disappears as you fall into the water or bottomless pit abyss below.

** * SoOkayItsAverage: The Lightning Bolt as well, which general consensus of ''Super Circuit''. Compared to ''64'' and later installments, it really shouldn't be considering it affects everyone else doesn't do anything innovative, but it's still a decently fun game with it, with characters closer to the lead being affected for longer periods. The problem comes from it being rigged to happen too often and making you often lose your defensive item just as a red shell is coming. And of course [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the AI will coordinate its racers so that they'll use a Spiny Shell just before they use the Lightning]][[note]](If it used the lightning first, like two human players might do, it would destroy the Spiny Shell)[[/note]], [[HumiliationConga setting first place up for a distressingly common one-two punch.]] To make matters worse if, in Mario Kart 7, the lightning bolt strikes you while your hang glider is deployed, sending you into the water or bottomless pit below.catchy soundtrack.

** The Lightning Bolt as well, which it really shouldn't be considering it affects everyone else with it, with characters closer to Getting the lead being affected highest ranking in each cup can seem arbitrary at times. Oftentimes one can race perfectly and get first in each track, yet still not have received a triple-star ranking. Luckily, ''8'' changes the system to be more predictable; getting first in every race guarantees a triple-star ranking. ** On that note, perfecting every engine class can also be a pain in the neck. 50cc is simple, and 100cc is manageable, but what about 150cc? Or [[HarderThanHard Mirror]], for longer periods. The problem comes from it being rigged to happen too often and making you often lose your defensive item just as a red shell is coming. And of course [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard the AI will coordinate its racers that matter? ''8'' once again simplifies things so that they'll use a Spiny Shell just before they use the Lightning]][[note]](If it used the lightning first, like two human players might do, it would destroy the Spiny Shell)[[/note]], [[HumiliationConga setting first place up for a distressingly common one-two punch.]] To make matters worse if, in Mario Kart 7, the lightning bolt strikes you while your hang glider is deployed, sending you ranking carries over into the water or bottomless pit below.lower engine classes, but Mirror is still counted separately. And then there's [[UpToEleven 200cc]], which is nearly impossible without inhuman reflexes.

** Lakeside Park in "Super Circuit", it has ramps that make you lose lots of time.
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** Lakeside Park in "Super Circuit", ''Super Circuit'', it has ramps that make you lose lots of time.time. ** Sunshine Airport in ''8'', because of how common it is online. If you're playing without the DLC Packs, expect to see it picked very often.

** Funky Kong and Rosalina were abused in ''Wii'' due to their crazy stat boosts.
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** In ''DS'', the Dry Bomber is far and away the best kart for snaking. The Egg 1 and Poltergust 4000 aren't far behind. ** Funky Kong and Rosalina Daisy were abused in ''Wii'' due to their crazy stat boosts.

** Heavyweights have been at both ends of the spectrum. In earlier games, heavy characters took a ''long'' time to get going, thus limiting their usefulness. In later games however, the customization feature and stat boosts have rendered it possible for players to go at insane speeds with them, particularly with Bowser, Wario and Morton in ''8''.
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** Heavyweights have been at both ends of the spectrum. In earlier games, heavy characters took a ''long'' time to get going, thus limiting their usefulness. In later games however, the customization feature and stat boosts have rendered it possible for players to go at insane speeds with them, particularly with Bowser, Wario Wario, Morton, and Morton heavy Miis in ''8''.
31st Jul '15 6:51:29 AM ButterKing4Ever
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** And then Jim Sterling gave ''7'' a 5 out of 10 due to ItsTheSameNowItSucks. The fans weren't happy, [[http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/225/698/11746288.jpg especially due to higher scores given to more formulaic games.]]
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** And then Jim Sterling gave ''7'' a 7.5 out of 10 due to ItsTheSameNowItSucks. The fans weren't happy, [[http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/225/698/11746288.jpg especially due to higher scores given to more formulaic games.]]
16th Jul '15 7:56:29 AM ShinyCottonCandy
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* SurpriseDifficulty: Any long time fan of the series will tell you to not be fooled by the colorful visuals and mellow settings since the games tend to be quite difficult at times, especially on the [[HarderThanHard [=150cc=]] difficulty]].
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* SurpriseDifficulty: Any long time fan of the series will tell you to not be fooled by the colorful visuals and mellow settings since the games tend to be quite difficult at times, especially on the [[HarderThanHard [=150cc=]] [=150cc=] difficulty]].
7th Jul '15 5:16:09 AM technickal
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* BrokenBase: Maka Wuhu had one for the online players due to the infamous cliff-falling glitch that puts the user of it ahead of others by several seconds. One portion considered it unfair for those who don't know about it or just want a simple race while the other portion said it's fair game for anyone since it's in there. Nintendo's response to the outcry by keeping said glitch did not help ease the fire, so to speak. In May 2012, [[http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/29928 they released a patch that would fix the exploit]]. After the patch's release, it became mandatory to have installed to be able to play online.
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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase: ** Maka Wuhu had one for the online players due to the infamous cliff-falling glitch that puts the user of it ahead of others by several seconds. One portion considered it unfair for those who don't know about it or just want a simple race while the other portion said it's fair game for anyone since it's in there. Nintendo's response to the outcry by keeping said glitch did not help ease the fire, so to speak. In May 2012, [[http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/29928 they released a patch that would fix the exploit]]. After the patch's release, it became mandatory to have installed to be able to play online.online. ** Similarly, snaking in ''Mario Kart DS''. Some took advantage of it, while others (derogatorily referred to as {{Scrub}}s by the other side of the base) thought it was cheating. And others don't mind either way.
7th Jul '15 5:16:09 AM technickal
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