History YMMV / MarieAntoinette

21st Dec '16 1:41:38 PM fearlessnikki
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Chances are that you remember the film for the famous scene, where Marie Antoinette is [[ReadyForLovemaking all naked on a couch aside from some stockings]], holding a hand fan and covering her ... [[UnusualEuphemism tracts of land]]. There are posters for only that scene, even!
** Hell, it's on the soundtrack cover.
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Chances are that you remember the film for the famous scene, where Marie Antoinette is [[ReadyForLovemaking all naked on a couch aside from some stockings]], holding a hand fan and covering her ... [[UnusualEuphemism tracts of land]]. There are posters for only that scene, even!
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even! Hell, it's on the soundtrack cover.
%%* CultClassic* BrokenBase: It was noted that the film received a mixture of cheers and boos at the Cannes Film Festival. Some were expecting a more factual take rather than Sofia Coppola's AnachronismStew in the name of characterization. It's up in the air as to whether they were good choices or not. The film was trashed by some for historical inaccuracies, while praised by others (including Roger Ebert) for it's characterization.
* CultClassic: The film was not a great hit commercially or critically, but does have a few dedicated fans.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Yolande de Polastron, Duchess of Polinac. She's mostly there as one of Marie's consorts, but Creator/RoseByrne brings her to life and perfectly captures the frivolity of such a woman.
** Madame du Barry is one of the more remembered characters in the film, despite vanishing after Louis XV dies.


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* NeverLiveItDown: Roger Ebert noted that the media exaggerated the amount of booing the film got at Cannes, claiming it was only a handful of journalists, and that booing is a European custom when someone feels a film is "politically incorrect".
* OneSceneWonder: Marie Antoinette's CampGay hairdresser, who helps style her hair into a magnificently high monstrosity.
* SignatureScene: The GoodTimesMontage set to "I Want Candy" seems to be one of the most remembered parts of the film. It includes the famous shot of Converse sneakers.
* ToughActToFollow: It was said that this film couldn't match the success of ''Film/LostInTranslation'', despite being developed long before it. The latter was even something Sofia Coppola developed because she was having trouble working out ''Marie Antoinette'''s screenplay.
* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The film's visual style and costumes were met with almost unanimous praise, even getting an Academy Award for costume design.
21st May '16 4:29:26 PM harryhenry
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29th Oct '15 5:35:43 AM Mara
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The film portrays Marie Antoinette as a lonely and unhappy young woman, who immerses herself in food, clothes, and material possessions in order to distract herself from her problems.
* AwesomeMusic: featuring Bow Wow Wow, Adam And The Ants, Music/TheCure and Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Chances are that you remember the film for the famous scene, where Marie Antoinette is all naked on a couch aside from some stockings, holding a hand fan and covering her... [[UnusualEuphemism tracts of land.]] There are posters for only that scene, even!
** Hell, it's on the [[AwesomeMusic soundtrack]] cover.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The film portrays Marie Antoinette as a lonely and unhappy young woman, woman who immerses herself in food, clothes, fashion and material possessions in order frivolity to distract herself from her problems.
* AwesomeMusic: featuring Featuring Bow Wow Wow, Adam And The Ants, Music/TheCure and Music/SiouxsieAndTheBanshees.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Chances are that you remember the film for the famous scene, where Marie Antoinette is [[ReadyForLovemaking all naked on a couch aside from some stockings, stockings]], holding a hand fan and covering her... her ... [[UnusualEuphemism tracts of land.]] land]]. There are posters for only that scene, even!
** Hell, it's on the [[AwesomeMusic soundtrack]] soundtrack cover.
28th Oct '15 12:40:24 AM Mara
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Marie to her newborn daughter: "A boy would be the son of France, but you will always be mine", based on something she actually said when her oldest child was born.
** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other. Also TruthInTelevision where the real Louis adored and respected Marie Antoinette so much that he refused to take a mistress, even though it was unheard of at the time and he was mercilessly teased for it.

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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Marie to her newborn daughter: "A boy would be the son of GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: The film received a more positive reception in France, but you will always be mine", based on something she actually said when her oldest child was born.
** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other. Also TruthInTelevision where the real Louis adored and respected Marie Antoinette so much that he refused to take a mistress, even
though it was unheard of at the time and he was mercilessly teased for it.not unanimously.
2nd Aug '15 10:43:21 PM phoenix
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[[WMG:The historical figure]]
* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Marie Antoinette's immense popularity in the USA puzzles French historians and more generally French people to no end. The American vision is seen as a naive RoseTintedNarrative as far as her flaws are concerned, with assorted {{Demonization}} of the French Revolution. It even brings suspicions of unconfessed aristocratic desires from the American (and more generally Western) elites.
* TearJerker: "Pardon me, monsieur; I did not do it on purpose." -- Her last words before being executed, after accidentally stepping on the foot of her executioner.
** Even more so, she was publicly accused at her trial of personally masturbating her son, the Dauphin -- ''no more than 8'' when he was taken from her by the Revolutionaries. As Carlyle tells it:
-->Scandalous Hébert has borne his testimony as to many things: as to one thing, concerning Marie-Antoinette and her little Son, -- wherewith Human Speech had better not further be soiled. She has answered Hébert; a Juryman begs to observe that she has not answered as to this. "I have not answered," she exclaims with noble emotion, "because Nature refuses to answer such a charge brought against a Mother, ''I appeal to all the Mothers that are here.''"
* VindicatedByHistory: Many historians agree that, for all her faults, she was not the lustful wastrel her enemies painted her. She did have some extravagances, but not only were many of them exaggerated or made up, many of her genuine ones were actually expected for someone of her station.
** A more balanced vision sees her as a Scapegoat for a historical event, but they also see her as someone who did not go far enough to win the public and cite the Flight to Varennes of which she had been a willing participant as more short-sighted than malicious.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Marie Antoinette's immense popularity in the USA puzzles French historians and more generally French people to no end. The American vision is seen as a naive RoseTintedNarrative as far as her flaws are concerned, with assorted {{Demonization}} of the French Revolution. It even brings suspicions of unconfessed aristocratic desires from the American (and more generally Western) elites.
* TearJerker: "Pardon me, monsieur; I did not do it on purpose." -- Her last words before being executed, after accidentally stepping on the foot of her executioner.
** Even more so, she was publicly accused at her trial of personally masturbating her son, the Dauphin -- ''no more than 8'' when he was taken from her by the Revolutionaries. As Carlyle tells it:
-->Scandalous Hébert has borne his testimony as to many things: as to one thing, concerning Marie-Antoinette and her little Son, -- wherewith Human Speech had better not further be soiled. She has answered Hébert; a Juryman begs to observe that she has not answered as to this. "I have not answered," she exclaims with noble emotion, "because Nature refuses to answer such a charge brought against a Mother, ''I appeal to all the Mothers that are here.''"
* VindicatedByHistory: Many historians agree that, for all her faults, she was not the lustful wastrel her enemies painted her. She did have some extravagances, but not only were many of them exaggerated or made up, many of her genuine ones were actually expected for someone of her station.
** A more balanced vision sees her as a Scapegoat for a historical event, but they also see her as someone who did not go far enough to win the public and cite the Flight to Varennes of which she had been a willing participant as more short-sighted than malicious.

[[WMG:The film]]
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** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other. Also TruthInTelevision where the real Louis adored and respected Marie Antoinette so much that he refused to take a mistress, even though it was unheard of at the time and he was mercilessly teased for it.

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** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other. Also TruthInTelevision where the real Louis adored and respected Marie Antoinette so much that he refused to take a mistress, even though it was unheard of at the time and he was mercilessly teased for it.it.
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27th May '15 7:38:39 AM rememberthehood1941
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** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other. Also TruthInTelevision where Louis adored and respected Marie Antoinette so much that he refused to take a mistress, even though it was unheard of at the time and he was mercilessly teased for it.

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** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other. Also TruthInTelevision where the real Louis adored and respected Marie Antoinette so much that he refused to take a mistress, even though it was unheard of at the time and he was mercilessly teased for it.
27th May '15 7:38:16 AM rememberthehood1941
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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: Marie to her newborn daughter: "A boy would be the son of France, but you will always be mine"
** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other.

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* CrowningMomentofHeartwarming: CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Marie to her newborn daughter: "A boy would be the son of France, but you will always be mine"
mine", based on something she actually said when her oldest child was born.
** Also, watching Marie Antoinette and Louis become closer as the years pass, possibility signifying they learned to love each other. Also TruthInTelevision where Louis adored and respected Marie Antoinette so much that he refused to take a mistress, even though it was unheard of at the time and he was mercilessly teased for it.
1st Jan '15 2:40:09 PM Manawyddan
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Marie Antoinette's immense popularity in the USA puzzles French historians and more generally French people to no end. The American vision is seen as a naive RoseTintedNarrative as far her flaws are concerned, with assorted {{Demonization}} of the French Revolution. It even brings suspicions of unconfessed aristocratic desires from the American (and more generally Western) elites.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Marie Antoinette's immense popularity in the USA puzzles French historians and more generally French people to no end. The American vision is seen as a naive RoseTintedNarrative as far as her flaws are concerned, with assorted {{Demonization}} of the French Revolution. It even brings suspicions of unconfessed aristocratic desires from the American (and more generally Western) elites.
1st Jan '15 2:39:34 PM Manawyddan
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Marie Antoinette's immense popularity in the USA puzzles French historians and more generally French people to no end. The American vision is seen as a naive RoseTintedNarrative as far her flaws are concerned, with assorted {{Demonization}} of the French Revolution. It even brings suspicions of unconfessed aristocratic desires from the American (and more generally Western) elites.
11th Sep '14 10:49:35 PM JulianLapostat
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** A more balanced vision sees her as a Scapegoat for a historical event, but they also see her as someone who did not go far enough to win the public and cite the Flight to Varennes of which she had been a willing participant as more short-sighted than malicious.
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