History YMMV / ManOfSteel

21st Mar '17 8:01:34 AM MasterHero
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** Jonathan Kent telling Clark that maybe he should have let the kids in the bus crash die, because the world would be afraid of Clark had he revealed his identity.

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** Jonathan Kent telling Clark that maybe he should have let the kids in the bus crash die, because the world would be afraid of Clark had he revealed his identity. It's clear he didn't know what to make of the situation, but it's still controversial.



** Infamously, the [[spoiler:ThouShallNotKill aversion, since Superman could have easily flied sideways or into the ceiling with Zod in tow, and it only happened because Creator/ZackSnyder never knew or cared to know the character]].

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** Infamously, the [[spoiler:ThouShallNotKill aversion, since Superman could have easily flied sideways or into the ceiling with Zod in tow, and it only happened because Creator/ZackSnyder never knew or cared to know the character]].aversion despite there clearly being ''no other option'']].



* RonTheDeathEater: ''Superman'' of all people, gets hit with this sometimes, being painted by detractors as selfish and having to be goaded into heroics, despite being a HeroicBystander and [[SamaritanSyndrome being compelled to help long before he got the suit]], and ultimately choosing Earth and humanity over his own people. Also, his DestructiveSavior tendencies are blown out of proportion since he was responsible for only a fraction of the devastation. Likewise his [[spoiler:killing of Zod]] is sometimes treated as an antithesis of Superman's character, [[JustifiedTrope but rightly so]] - no matter his feelings about it, murder is averse to everything Superman embodies.

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* RonTheDeathEater: ''Superman'' of all people, gets hit with this sometimes, being painted by detractors as selfish and having to be goaded into heroics, despite being a HeroicBystander and [[SamaritanSyndrome being compelled to help long before he got the suit]], and ultimately choosing Earth and humanity over his own people. Also, his DestructiveSavior tendencies are blown out of proportion since he was responsible for only a fraction of the devastation. Likewise his [[spoiler:killing of Zod]] is sometimes treated as an antithesis of Superman's character, [[JustifiedTrope but rightly so]] - no matter his feelings about it, murder is despite it clearly being the only option he had, Clark being visibly averse to everything Superman embodies.doing it,(he literally begs Zod to stop his attempted massacre before he finally does the deed) and of course his [[TheseHandsHaveKilled reaction]] afterwards making it abundantly clear he took no pleasure in doing so.
21st Mar '17 4:31:34 AM Melancholeric
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** Jonathan Kent telling Clark that maybe he should have let the kids in the bus crash die, when it's clear that he wasn't sure what to make of the situation.

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** Jonathan Kent telling Clark that maybe he should have let the kids in the bus crash die, when it's clear that he wasn't sure what to make of because the situation.world would be afraid of Clark had he revealed his identity.



** Infamously, the [[spoiler:ThouShallNotKill aversion despite there clearly being ''no other option'']].

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** Infamously, the [[spoiler:ThouShallNotKill aversion despite there clearly being ''no other option'']].aversion, since Superman could have easily flied sideways or into the ceiling with Zod in tow, and it only happened because Creator/ZackSnyder never knew or cared to know the character]].



* RonTheDeathEater: ''Superman'' of all people, gets hit with this sometimes, being painted by detractors as selfish and having to be goaded into heroics, despite being a HeroicBystander and [[SamaritanSyndrome being compelled to help long before he got the suit]], and ultimately choosing Earth and humanity over his own people. Also, his DestructiveSavior tendencies are blown out of proportion since he was responsible for only a fraction of the devastation. Likewise his [[spoiler:killing of Zod]] is sometimes treated as an antithesis of Superman's character, despite it clearly being the only option he had, Clark being visibly averse to doing it,(he literally begs Zod to stop his attempted massacre before he finally does the deed) and of course his [[TheseHandsHaveKilled reaction]] afterwards making it abundantly clear he took no pleasure in doing so.

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* RonTheDeathEater: ''Superman'' of all people, gets hit with this sometimes, being painted by detractors as selfish and having to be goaded into heroics, despite being a HeroicBystander and [[SamaritanSyndrome being compelled to help long before he got the suit]], and ultimately choosing Earth and humanity over his own people. Also, his DestructiveSavior tendencies are blown out of proportion since he was responsible for only a fraction of the devastation. Likewise his [[spoiler:killing of Zod]] is sometimes treated as an antithesis of Superman's character, despite it clearly being the only option he had, Clark being visibly [[JustifiedTrope but rightly so]] - no matter his feelings about it, murder is averse to doing it,(he literally begs Zod to stop his attempted massacre before he finally does the deed) and of course his [[TheseHandsHaveKilled reaction]] afterwards making it abundantly clear he took no pleasure in doing so.everything Superman embodies.
19th Feb '17 5:09:46 PM Movienut376
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** According to iMdb, Henry Cavill insisted that it was totally plausible and acceptable for Superman to be both muscular and have chest hair, citing The Death of Superman comic storyline as an example; indeed, Superman is shown bare chested and with chest hair at several points.
16th Feb '17 6:47:39 AM Movienut376
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** [[spoiler:Colonel Hardy]] would have made a fine human ally for Superman in this continuity.
8th Feb '17 7:16:16 PM WaxingName
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** Many feel the film didn't take advantage of being a reboot to fix or re-establish stuff properly because it was too busy emulating the Nolan Bat-films and the previous ''Superman'' movies.

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** Many feel the film didn't take advantage of being a reboot to fix or re-establish stuff properly because it was too busy emulating the Nolan Bat-films and the previous ''Superman'' movies. Because of this, detractors believe that the film's good ideas are wasted by focusing on Superman repeatedly undergoing tragedy instead of him developing into the idealistic symbol of hope that he is best known for.
5th Feb '17 4:28:08 PM comicwriter
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** Still images of the scene where Superman screams in anguish while on the verge of tears [[spoiler: after killing Zod]] have become a popular reaction image, especially for articles or threads dealing with something negative pertaining to the DCEU.
4th Feb '17 3:53:52 PM NightShade96
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** Sits at 56% on Rotten Tomatoes with critics (average rating 6.2/10), where audiences have it at 75% (average rating 3.9/5). Metacritic also has the critic score at a middling 55, while the user score is at a solid 7.8. This is in contrast to ''Superman Returns'', which has a higher critical rating than audience rating. The IMDB rating is 7.2/10 from over 500,000 votes, and it garnered an A- from Cinemascore. In addition, [[https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/man-steel-beats-iron-man-3-dvd-blu-102900205.html the film did better on home release]] than either ''Film/IronMan3'' or ''Film/TheWolverine'' (both of which were met with better reception from critics), making it the most successful superhero movie of the year on that front.

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** Sits at 56% on Rotten Tomatoes {{Downplayed|Trope}}. The film has a rating of 55% with critics (average rating 6.2/10), where and a 75% with audiences have on Rotten Tomatoes. That said, it at 75% (average rating 3.9/5). Metacritic also has really polarized hardcore Superman fans due to the critic score at a middling 55, while [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks liberties taken with the user score is at a solid 7.8. This is in contrast to ''Superman Returns'', which has a higher critical rating than source material]] ([[MovieSuperheroesWearBlack not just the costume, either]]). Despite this, the movie had very positive audience rating. The IMDB rating is 7.2/10 from over 500,000 votes, reactions and it garnered an A- from Cinemascore. In addition, [[https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/man-steel-beats-iron-man-3-dvd-blu-102900205.html word of mouth, and collected the film did better on home release]] than either ''Film/IronMan3'' or ''Film/TheWolverine'' (both of which were met with better reception from critics), making it the most successful superhero movie of the year on that front.highest-grossing June opening weekend ''of all time''.
6th Jan '17 8:55:44 AM SeptimusHeap
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* FreudWasRight: Many jokes have been made about the rather [[http://imgur.com/TVjbBwJ phallic]] appearances of the Kryptonian spaceships.
** The ending to Zod's trial is one big euphemism for sex. He and his cronies stand at the top of a tower wearing what's basically alien underwear; they writhe and moan as they're placed into cryo-stasis; the prison ship envelops them with its robot legs; they're projected into the ship from beneath and then the ship enters the Phantom Zone through a gelatinous opening...and then explosions happens moments later. WordOfGod says that Kryptonian culture is meant to be full of subconscious symbolism towards reproduction.
** The way Clark heals Lois when they first meet. She's on her back, and he's leaning directly over her. He speaks tenderly to her, and then he begins to undress her (while she's ''breathing heavily'', no less!), and (albeit with his laser vision)...penetrates her. Cue her crying out....
31st Dec '16 6:59:25 PM Anddrix
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'' meets ''Film/SupermanII'' (both sans ComicBook/LexLuthor) meets ''Film/BatmanBegins'' with a healthy dose of Franchise/{{Godzilla}} on the side.
31st Dec '16 6:54:28 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'' meets ''Film/SupermanII'' (both sans Lex Luthor) meets ''Film/BatmanBegins'' with a healthy dose of Franchise/{{Godzilla}} on the side.

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* JustForFun/XMeetsY: ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'' meets ''Film/SupermanII'' (both sans Lex Luthor) ComicBook/LexLuthor) meets ''Film/BatmanBegins'' with a healthy dose of Franchise/{{Godzilla}} on the side.
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