History YMMV / MalcolmInTheMiddle

24th Jul '17 10:09:19 AM grammy
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* EasilyForgiven: Lois calls out Kitty for abandoning her family, leaving them destroyed, and then returning after she'd done everything she wanted and expected a simple apology would do. After Hal tells her that it's expected to forgive the love of your life for absolutely anything, Lois, who rarely apologizes for ''anything'', apologizes to Kitty, with Kitty never having to do any real atonement.
24th Jul '17 9:23:54 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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** JerkassWoobie: This applies to everyone the rest of the time. Bad things never really stop happening to the family, so whether they're this or a regular Woobie comes down to whether or not they deserve what's happening to them in a given episode.

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** * JerkassWoobie: This applies to everyone the rest of the time. Bad things never really stop happening to the family, so whether they're this or a regular Woobie comes down to whether or not they deserve what's happening to them in a given episode.
13th May '17 9:22:03 AM deusexadamjensen121
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* AssPull: A few episodes into season 6, Francis abruptly mentions that he was fired offscreen from his job at the ranch due to [[OutOfCharacterMoment his stupidly losing Otto's deposits to something he thought was an [=ATM=], but wasn't. It's bizarre that the usually discerning and savvy Francis would do something so idiotic]], and it's equally strange for the seasons-long ranch job was suddenly aborted offscreen, making it seem that the writers just didn't know where to go with it anymore and ended it as awkwardly as possible.

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* AssPull: A few episodes into season 6, Francis abruptly mentions that he was fired offscreen from his job at the ranch due to [[OutOfCharacterMoment his stupidly losing Otto's deposits to something he thought was an [=ATM=], but wasn't. It's bizarre that the usually discerning and savvy Francis would do something so idiotic]], and it's equally strange for the seasons-long ranch job was suddenly aborted offscreen, making it seem that the writers just didn't know where to go with it anymore and ended it as awkwardly as possible. It's also not consistent with the character of Otto to suddenly terminate and sue Francis for an honest (if horrific) mistake when he's always forgiven worse and fallen for much worse scams himself.
1st May '17 6:11:57 PM hitmonkey
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* EasilyForgiven: Lois, the biggest BaseBreaker of the show, had pretty much every viewer on her side when she called out Kitty for abandoning her family, leaving them destroyed, and then returning after she'd done everything she wanted and expected a simple apology would do. After Hal's somewhat lukewarm excuse that it's expected to forgive the love of your life for absolutely anything, Lois, who rarely apologizes for ''anything'' due to the show usually being on her side, apologizes to Kitty, with Kitty never having to do any real atonement.

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* EasilyForgiven: Lois, the biggest BaseBreaker of the show, had pretty much every viewer on her side when she called Lois calls out Kitty for abandoning her family, leaving them destroyed, and then returning after she'd done everything she wanted and expected a simple apology would do. After Hal's somewhat lukewarm excuse Hal tells her that it's expected to forgive the love of your life for absolutely anything, Lois, who rarely apologizes for ''anything'' due to the show usually being on her side, ''anything'', apologizes to Kitty, with Kitty never having to do any real atonement.



*** In another episode, Hal worries that he may have cancer and tries to hide it from his sons [[note]](until he gets a call saying that the lump is benign)[[/note]], which is slightly better morally (but not as exciting entertainment-wise) than making meth with a high school drop-out to pay for the hospital bills and make sure his family has something to live on when he dies.
*** In "Jessica Stays Over," Hal obsesses over killing a bee. The ''Breaking Bad'' episode "Fly" was also about a Bryan Cranston character obsessing over killing a bug (in this case, it's a fly, and the reason is because the fly would cause adverse effects to the chemicals in the meth lab).

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*** In another episode, Hal worries that he may have cancer and tries to hide it from his sons [[note]](until he gets a call saying that the lump is benign)[[/note]], which is slightly better morally (but not as exciting entertainment-wise) than making meth with a high school drop-out to pay for the hospital bills and make sure his family has something to live on when he dies.
*** In "Jessica Stays Over," Hal obsesses over killing a bee. The ''Breaking Bad'' episode "Fly" was also about a Bryan Cranston character obsessing over killing a bug (in this case, it's a fly, and the reason is because the fly would cause adverse effects to the chemicals in the meth lab).fly).



*** On the episode "Malcolm Babysits," there's a scene where Hal is outside of a trailer in his underwear, which is how we first meet Walter White in the very first episode of ''Breaking Bad'' (only on the former, Lois was throwing him out; the latter was Walter trying to escape other drug dealers and the cops and recording a video will in case he gets shot or crashes his trailer).
*** (mixed with WhatCouldHaveBeen): Aaron Paul (the actor best known on ''Breaking Bad'' as Jesse Pinkman) auditioned to play Francis (the older brother who was sent to military school), but lost out to Christopher Masterson (brother of Danny Masterson, who played Hyde on ''That 70s Show''). If Aaron Paul did get the role of Francis, ''Breaking Bad'' would have been mistaken for a DarkerAndEdgier ''Malcolm in the Middle'' spin-off.
*** Hal's father is named Walter, and just like the Breaking Bad character of the same name [[spoiler:he's dead by the end of the final season]].
** In the episode "Secret Boyfriend," Vicki (Malcolm's secret girlfriend) is dubbed "cheerleader scum" by Jessica. Pretty funny, considering that Jessica is played by Creator/HaydenPanettiere, who the following year would become ''[[TheCheerleader the]]'' [[TheCheerleader cheerleader]], on ''{{Series/Heroes}}''.

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*** On the episode "Malcolm Babysits," there's a scene where Hal is outside of a trailer in his underwear, which is how we first meet Walter White in the very first episode of ''Breaking Bad'' (only on the former, Lois was throwing him out; the latter was Walter trying to escape other drug dealers and the cops and recording a video will in case he gets shot or crashes his trailer).
Bad''.
*** (mixed with WhatCouldHaveBeen): Aaron Paul (the actor best known on ''Breaking Bad'' as Jesse Pinkman) auditioned to play Francis (the older brother who was sent to military school), but lost out to Christopher Masterson (brother of Danny Masterson, who played Hyde on ''That 70s Show''). If Aaron Paul did get the role of Francis, ''Breaking Bad'' would could have been mistaken for a DarkerAndEdgier ''Malcolm in the Middle'' spin-off.
*** Hal's father is named Walter, and just like the Breaking Bad character of the same name [[spoiler:he's dead by the end of the final season]].
Walter.
** In the episode "Secret Boyfriend," Vicki (Malcolm's secret girlfriend) is dubbed "cheerleader scum" by Jessica. Pretty funny, considering that Jessica is played by Creator/HaydenPanettiere, who the following year would become ''[[TheCheerleader the]]'' [[TheCheerleader the cheerleader]], on ''{{Series/Heroes}}''.



** JerkassWoobie: This applies to everyone the rest of the time. Bad things never really stop happening to the family, so whether they're this or a regular Woobie comes down to whether or not they deserve what's happening to them in a given episode.
** Occasionally, a character would purposefully play themselves up as this to get something.
** Craig. He may be a dick a lot of the time, he still doesn't deserve all of the nightmarish things he endures that would make Franz Kafka proud.
--> '''Craig''': [[ItMakesSenseInContext (as his helper monkey raises a knife to kill him)]] I always dreamed it would end like this!



** When Stevie's mother left after he became independent. [[spoiler: And she becomes a KarmaHoudini whose completely forgiven by her HenpeckedHusband and Stevie when she rejoins the show.]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even]] ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards Lois]],'' [[EvenEvilHasStandards who has committed many heinous acts]], called everyone out on the sheer wrongness of accepting a woman who abandoned her disabled child back into their lives due to how bad and selfish the sheer act was.

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** When Stevie's mother left after he became independent. [[spoiler: And she becomes a KarmaHoudini whose completely forgiven by her HenpeckedHusband and Stevie when she rejoins the show.]] [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even]] ''[[EvenEvilHasStandards Lois]],'' [[EvenEvilHasStandards Even Lois, who has committed many heinous acts]], called everyone out on the sheer wrongness of accepting a woman who abandoned her disabled child back into their lives due to how bad and selfish the sheer act was.



** Reese, Dewey, and Malcolm in "Hal Grieves." [[spoiler:Hal's father dies and]] Hal, instead of grieving, fears that his sons won't remember him fondly just as he didn't remember his father fondly and throws himself into bonding with his sons. Reese, Dewey, and eventually Malcolm all decide to manipulate him into spending a lot of money on whatever they want, essentially buying their love; Malcolm even tries to get Hal to buy him a sports car. Fortunately Lois, the only one concerned about Hal's well-being and grieving process, intercepts and promises to make the boys suffer -- one of the times when even her detractors sided with her.

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** Reese, Dewey, and Malcolm in "Hal Grieves." [[spoiler:Hal's father dies and]] dies]] and Hal, instead of grieving, fears that his sons won't remember him fondly just as he didn't remember his father fondly and throws himself into bonding with his sons. Reese, Dewey, and eventually Malcolm all decide to manipulate him into spending a lot of money on whatever they want, essentially buying their love; Malcolm even tries to get Hal to buy him a sports car. Fortunately Lois, the only one concerned about Hal's well-being and grieving process, intercepts and promises to make the boys suffer -- one of the times when even her detractors sided with her.suffer.



** Herkabe crosses this in ''Malcolm Films Reese''. If you didn't hate him for his actions in seasons three and four, you will hate him here for manipulating Malcolm into filming Reese's inner thoughts simply to humiliate them both.

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** Herkabe crosses this in ''Malcolm Films Reese''. If you didn't hate him for his actions in seasons three and four, you will hate him here for manipulating he manipulates Malcolm into filming Reese's inner thoughts simply to humiliate them both.



** EmmaStone appears in one episode, JennetteMcCurdy (Sam on ''Series/ICarly'' and ''Series/SamAndCat'') in two, and Creator/HaydenPanettiere in four (though unlike Jennette, she plays the same character in all her appearances). And of course, pre-''Series/BreakingBad'' Bryan Cranston.

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** EmmaStone appears in one episode, JennetteMcCurdy episode.
**JennetteMcCurdy
(Sam on ''Series/ICarly'' and ''Series/SamAndCat'') appears in two, and two episodes as different characters
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Creator/HaydenPanettiere is in four (though unlike Jennette, she plays the same character in all her appearances). And of course, pre-''Series/BreakingBad'' episodes.
** Pre-''Series/BreakingBad''
Bryan Cranston.



** Emma Stone's ''TheHelp'' Co-Star OctaviaSpencer appears in season two.

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** Emma Stone's ''TheHelp'' Co-Star ''TheHelp'''s OctaviaSpencer appears in season two.



** JerkassWoobie: This applies to everyone the rest of the time. Bad things never really stop happening to the family, so whether they're this or a regular Woobie comes down to whether or not they deserve what's happening to them in a given episode.
** Occasionally, a character would purposefully play themselves up as this to get something.
** Craig. He may be a dick a lot of the time, he still doesn't deserve all of the nightmarish things he endures that would make Franz Kafka proud.
--> '''Craig''': [[ItMakesSenseInContext (as his helper monkey raises a knife to kill him)]] I always dreamed it would end like this!
1st May '17 5:56:21 PM hitmonkey
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Domestic abuse, stalking, bullying, religion, death, infidelity, animal cruelty, incest, drug abuse, misogyny, racism; nothing is sacred, and it's all played for laughs. And, unlike shows like ''TheSimpsons'' that try to temper some of the subject matter with heartwarming moments, this show hardly does it.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Domestic abuse, stalking, bullying, religion, death, infidelity, animal cruelty, incest, drug abuse, misogyny, racism; nothing is sacred, and it's all played for laughs. And, unlike shows like ''TheSimpsons'' that try to temper some of the subject matter with heartwarming moments, this show hardly does it.
15th Mar '17 4:09:26 AM mariofan1000
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* AwesomeMusic: ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8y8Ziwswe0 You're not the boss of me now...]]''
6th Mar '17 10:50:06 PM mariic
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* Reese tends to be the most popular of the brothers, as he gets a lot of hilarious lines from being the dumbest of the brothers, as well as his secret talent for cooking.

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* ** Reese tends to be the most popular of the brothers, as he gets a lot of hilarious lines from being the dumbest of the brothers, as well as his secret talent for cooking.
19th Feb '17 7:16:39 PM TristanJeremiah
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* AssPull: A few episodes into season 6, Francis abruptly mentions that he was fired offscreen from his job at the ranch due to his stupidly losing Otto's deposits to something he thought was an [=ATM=], but wasn't. It's bizarre that the usually discerning and savvy Francis would do something so idiotic, and it's equally strange for the seasons-long ranch job was suddenly aborted offscreen, making it seem that the writers just didn't know where to go with it anymore and ended it as awkwardly as possible.

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* AssPull: A few episodes into season 6, Francis abruptly mentions that he was fired offscreen from his job at the ranch due to [[OutOfCharacterMoment his stupidly losing Otto's deposits to something he thought was an [=ATM=], but wasn't. It's bizarre that the usually discerning and savvy Francis would do something so idiotic, idiotic]], and it's equally strange for the seasons-long ranch job was suddenly aborted offscreen, making it seem that the writers just didn't know where to go with it anymore and ended it as awkwardly as possible.
14th Feb '17 5:32:11 PM Noraneko
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** Tara Masterson, sister of Christopher Masterson (Francis), appears in ''Malcolm's Money''; she'd go on to achieve wide recognition as Tara in ''Series/TheWalkingDead''.

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** Tara Alanna Masterson, sister of Christopher Masterson (Francis), appears in ''Malcolm's Money''; she'd go on to achieve wide recognition as Tara in ''Series/TheWalkingDead''.
13th Feb '17 6:11:39 PM creader
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* RetroactiveRecognition: EmmaStone appears in one episode, JennetteMcCurdy (Sam on ''Series/ICarly'' and ''Series/SamAndCat'') in two, and Creator/HaydenPanettiere in four (though unlike Jennette, she plays the same character in all her appearances). And of course, pre-''Series/BreakingBad'' Bryan Cranston.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: RetroactiveRecognition:
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EmmaStone appears in one episode, JennetteMcCurdy (Sam on ''Series/ICarly'' and ''Series/SamAndCat'') in two, and Creator/HaydenPanettiere in four (though unlike Jennette, she plays the same character in all her appearances). And of course, pre-''Series/BreakingBad'' Bryan Cranston.


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** Cameron Monaghan, well-known for playing Ian Gallagher on [[Series/ShamelessUS Shameless]], appears here in an early role as one of Dewey's "disturbed" classmates. Coincidentally, Emy Coligado would go on to appear in Shameless for an episode as a social worker.
** Tara Masterson, sister of Christopher Masterson (Francis), appears in ''Malcolm's Money''; she'd go on to achieve wide recognition as Tara in ''Series/TheWalkingDead''.
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