History YMMV / MagicalRecordLyricalNanohaForce

21st Jun '16 12:29:57 PM ThatBitterTase
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: In interviews the author has seemed genuinely shocked that people do not find the Hückebein sympathetic or likeable, particularly Cypha.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: In interviews the author has seemed genuinely shocked that people do not find the Hückebein sympathetic or likeable, particularly Cypha. While their lot may kind of suck, they're still mass-murdering sociopaths who treat all attempts to reason with them as an excuse to commit more horrific violence.
1st Jun '16 5:51:24 PM bleach246
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Arnage has some love, unlike almost all the other members of her family, probably because she has yet to send someone to the emergency room.

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* EnsembleDarkhorse: EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Isis seems to have gotten quite a few fans, unlike pretty much anyone else introduced in ''Force''.
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Arnage has some love, unlike almost all the other members of her family, probably because she has yet to send someone to the emergency room.
30th May '16 11:40:17 PM LeithSol
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: In interviews the author has seemed genuinely shocked that people do not find the Hückebein sympathetic or likeable, particularly Cypha.
3rd Apr '16 6:33:20 PM MajinAkuma
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* LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the series. Whether ''Force'' is [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the monstrous enemies he's facing all of these depend on which fan you ask.

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* LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the series. Whether ''Force'' is [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma Thoma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the monstrous enemies he's facing all of these depend on which fan you ask.
3rd Apr '16 6:32:08 PM MajinAkuma
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: The Huckebein have experienced a mild case of this. They're still hated, mind you, just not as much as before. This is due to the [[SmugSuper more]] [[TheSociopath unpleasant]] [[ItsAllAboutMe parts]] of their characterization being toned down (mostly in an effort to appeal to Thoma), and [[NotSoInvincibleAfterAll gradually losing]] their frustrating advantage over the protagonists.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: The Huckebein Hückebein have experienced a mild case of this. They're still hated, mind you, just not as much as before. This is due to the [[SmugSuper more]] [[TheSociopath unpleasant]] [[ItsAllAboutMe parts]] of their characterization being toned down (mostly in an effort to appeal to Thoma), and [[NotSoInvincibleAfterAll gradually losing]] their frustrating advantage over the protagonists.
27th Jan '16 12:47:31 PM MagBas
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* LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the series. Whether ''Force'' is [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the monstrous enemies he's facing; whether the Huckebein are CompleteMonster VillainSue characters or JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds[=/=]TragicMonster characters that are just UnderestimatingBadassery until the TSAB can perfect their anti-Eclipse tactics and gear; all of these depend on which fan you ask.

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* LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the series. Whether ''Force'' is [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the monstrous enemies he's facing; whether the Huckebein are CompleteMonster VillainSue characters or JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds[=/=]TragicMonster characters that are just UnderestimatingBadassery until the TSAB can perfect their anti-Eclipse tactics and gear; facing all of these depend on which fan you ask.



* VillainSue:
** If you have to name names... the Hückebein because of their anti-magic and other things. It overlaps with GodModeSue and even JerkSue. The villains are insanely powerful and the heroes have been forced to use [[IThoughtItWasForbidden forbidden technology]] to even have an effect on them in theory. ''In practice it doesn't work.'' However as of chapter 29 the veneer of invincibility is starting to crack.
** Mostly thanks to Hades Vandein, who highjacks the role of BigBad halfway through the story and makes the Hücks seem positively tolerable by comparison. Not only is he more powerful and somehow more smug, but he refuses to confront the heroes and makes them look like idiots when they can't catch him red handed, even though he's the most ObviouslyEvil guy ever.
4th Jul '15 11:03:27 PM Koveras
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* HeartwarmingMoment: Signum and Agito's interactions in chapter 3. Their affection for each other is quite subdued (as befits a [[GermanicDepressives Belkan]] duo on a job), but seeing the stoic knight smile for her partner and Agito finally finding happiness in service of a worthy Lord is {{Squee}}-inducing. [[spoiler:Which makes their utter slaughter by Cypha just four chapters later all the more jarring.]]
4th Jul '15 10:57:09 PM Koveras
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* CrackPairing: Signum/Cypha. It's almost exclusively based around Singnum being dominated and humiliated. It probably started as a thing to troll fans with, but since it became obvious that Signum would live through ''Force'', it seems to have been jokingly accepted by the fandom, kind of like [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Mami and Charlotte.]]

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* CrackPairing: Signum/Cypha. It's almost exclusively based around Singnum Signum being dominated and humiliated. It probably started as a thing to troll fans with, but since it became obvious that Signum would live through ''Force'', it seems to have been jokingly accepted by the fandom, kind of like [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Mami and Charlotte.]]
9th Jun '15 5:12:26 AM KOman
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: The Huckebein have experienced a mild case of this. They're still hated, mind you, just not as much as before. This is due to the [[SmugSuper more]] [[TheSociopath unpleasant]] [[ItsAllAboutMe parts]] of their characterization being toned down (mostly in an effort to appeal to Thoma), and [[NotSoInvincibleAfterAll gradually losing]] their frustrating advantage over the protagonists.
6th Jun '15 10:42:45 PM EvaUnit01
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** During the first chapters of ''Force'' Thoma is introduced to us without much backstory and the [[BaseBreaker fanbase had mixed opinions about him]], then he suddenly knows Subaru and after a couple of chapters we've informed right of the bat that [[RememberTheNewGuy he knows and is liked by almost the entire old cast]] with very little explanation or background whatsoever.

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** During the first chapters of ''Force'' Thoma is introduced to us without much backstory and the [[BaseBreaker fanbase had mixed opinions about him]], then he suddenly knows Subaru and after a couple of Subaru. Some chapters we've informed right of the bat later, [[BelatedBackstory his backstory finally comes around and it's revealed that [[RememberTheNewGuy he already knows and is liked by almost the entire old cast]] on familial terms with very little explanation or background whatsoever.Subaru and her extended family]].


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* LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the series. Whether ''Force'' is [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the monstrous enemies he's facing; whether the Huckebein are CompleteMonster VillainSue characters or JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds[=/=]TragicMonster characters that are just UnderestimatingBadassery until the TSAB can perfect their anti-Eclipse tactics and gear; all of these depend on which fan you ask.
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