History YMMV / MagicalRecordLyricalNanohaForce

27th Jan '16 12:47:31 PM MagBas
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villain sue is Flame Bait
* LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the series. Whether ''Force'' is [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the monstrous enemies he's facing; whether the Huckebein are CompleteMonster VillainSue characters or JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds[=/=]TragicMonster characters that are just UnderestimatingBadassery until the TSAB can perfect their anti-Eclipse tactics and gear; all of these depend on which fan you ask.
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* LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the series. Whether ''Force'' is [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the monstrous enemies he's facing; whether the Huckebein are CompleteMonster VillainSue characters or JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds[=/=]TragicMonster characters that are just UnderestimatingBadassery until the TSAB can perfect their anti-Eclipse tactics and gear; facing all of these depend on which fan you ask.

* VillainSue: ** If you have to name names... the Hückebein because of their anti-magic and other things. It overlaps with GodModeSue and even JerkSue. The villains are insanely powerful and the heroes have been forced to use [[IThoughtItWasForbidden forbidden technology]] to even have an effect on them in theory. ''In practice it doesn't work.'' However as of chapter 29 the veneer of invincibility is starting to crack. ** Mostly thanks to Hades Vandein, who highjacks the role of BigBad halfway through the story and makes the Hücks seem positively tolerable by comparison. Not only is he more powerful and somehow more smug, but he refuses to confront the heroes and makes them look like idiots when they can't catch him red handed, even though he's the most ObviouslyEvil guy ever.
4th Jul '15 11:03:27 PM Koveras
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* HeartwarmingMoment: Signum and Agito's interactions in chapter 3. Their affection for each other is quite subdued (as befits a [[GermanicDepressives Belkan]] duo on a job), but seeing the stoic knight smile for her partner and Agito finally finding happiness in service of a worthy Lord is {{Squee}}-inducing. [[spoiler:Which makes their utter slaughter by Cypha just four chapters later all the more jarring.]]
4th Jul '15 10:57:09 PM Koveras
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* CrackPairing: Signum/Cypha. It's almost exclusively based around Singnum being dominated and humiliated. It probably started as a thing to troll fans with, but since it became obvious that Signum would live through ''Force'', it seems to have been jokingly accepted by the fandom, kind of like [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Mami and Charlotte.]]
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* CrackPairing: Signum/Cypha. It's almost exclusively based around Singnum Signum being dominated and humiliated. It probably started as a thing to troll fans with, but since it became obvious that Signum would live through ''Force'', it seems to have been jokingly accepted by the fandom, kind of like [[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Mami and Charlotte.]]
9th Jun '15 5:12:26 AM KOman
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: The Huckebein have experienced a mild case of this. They're still hated, mind you, just not as much as before. This is due to the [[SmugSuper more]] [[TheSociopath unpleasant]] [[ItsAllAboutMe parts]] of their characterization being toned down (mostly in an effort to appeal to Thoma), and [[NotSoInvincibleAfterAll gradually losing]] their frustrating advantage over the protagonists.
6th Jun '15 10:42:45 PM EvaUnit01
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** During the first chapters of ''Force'' Thoma is introduced to us without much backstory and the [[BaseBreaker fanbase had mixed opinions about him]], then he suddenly knows Subaru and after a couple of chapters we've informed right of the bat that [[RememberTheNewGuy he knows and is liked by almost the entire old cast]] with very little explanation or background whatsoever.
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** During the first chapters of ''Force'' Thoma is introduced to us without much backstory and the [[BaseBreaker fanbase had mixed opinions about him]], then he suddenly knows Subaru and after a couple of Subaru. Some chapters we've informed right of the bat later, [[BelatedBackstory his backstory finally comes around and it's revealed that [[RememberTheNewGuy he already knows and is liked by almost the entire old cast]] on familial terms with very little explanation or background whatsoever.Subaru and her extended family]].

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** During * LoveItOrHateIt[=/=]BrokenBase: pretty much everything about the first chapters of series. Whether ''Force'' Thoma is introduced to us without much backstory [[DorkAge complete and utter garbage]] or [[FridgeBrilliance a work of genius]]; whether Touma is [[WhatAnIdiot a hopeless idiot driven by naivete]] or an intelligent and responsible kid trying to balance out his AllLovingHero attitude against the [[BaseBreaker fanbase had mixed opinions about him]], then he suddenly knows Subaru and after a couple of chapters we've informed right of monstrous enemies he's facing; whether the bat Huckebein are CompleteMonster VillainSue characters or JerkassWoobie[=/=]WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds[=/=]TragicMonster characters that [[RememberTheNewGuy he knows are just UnderestimatingBadassery until the TSAB can perfect their anti-Eclipse tactics and is liked by almost the entire old cast]] with very little explanation or background whatsoever.gear; all of these depend on which fan you ask.
29th May '15 8:17:15 PM Yoshiaki
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** Signum and Cypha's rivalry. With such a rocky start and looking at the Blazing General's BloodKnight tendencies as well as the eye-patched rogue's animosity to fight strong foes one would think an instant comptetitiveness woul emerge between the two. Instead Signum abides to her duty almost ignoring everything else while Cypha didn't really seem eager to pursue another fight (aside of some passing remarks at Signum's good swordfighting skills), she even fled their second encounter without a care. Hopefully, their feud and mutual grudingly learning will be more fleshed out if FORCE's hiatus ever gets lifted.
30th Mar '15 1:36:22 AM drac0blade
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** Most people don't really like the AEC Equipment much. They prevent the heroes using magic a setting that has previously been about [[WaveMotionGun high-powered magic]], they [[FlawedPrototype usually don't work]], and anyone with a Strike Cannon rather than a personalized weapon gets taken down like they were a {{Mook}} regardless of what they were treated like in any previous version of ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha''.
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** Most people don't really like the AEC Equipment much. They prevent the heroes using magic in a setting that has previously been about [[WaveMotionGun high-powered magic]], they [[FlawedPrototype usually don't work]], and anyone with a Strike Cannon rather than a personalized weapon gets taken down like they were a {{Mook}} regardless of what they were treated like in any previous version of ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha''.
29th Jan '15 1:38:12 PM helterskelter
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Per TRS, Fan Favorite is being cut.
* FanFavorite: Isis seems to have gotten quite a few fans so far, unlike pretty much anyone else introduced in ''Force''.
24th Jan '15 5:35:27 PM MagBas
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* JumpingTheShark: ''Force'' is the season with the biggest amount of backlash to date. It elicited this reaction for having a heterosexual male lead and supposedly dropping the magical girl tropes. Not to mention they put some of the most cheered characters this franchise have in real danger of suffering BadassDecay, starting with [[LadyOfWar Signum]]. There are also signs the author has guessed badly about how people will react to each new character they introduce, committing the same mistakes over and over and trying to shore them up in [[RememberTheNewGuy all]] the [[TheWorfEffect wrong]] [[HotSpringsEpisode ways]].
7th Jan '15 3:35:38 AM MajinAkuma
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* CounterpartComparison: A number of the Hückebein have been compared to the Wolkenwritter and other characters outside the franchise in trait similarities.
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* CounterpartComparison: A number of the Hückebein have been compared to the Wolkenwritter Wolkenritter and other characters outside the franchise in trait similarities.
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